Wilsons Sandbox

On 6 May 2003, at 22:37, Brian Cool wrote:

> Just got a A-4 new to me. so I am going to sell my A-6. >

Like I said a number of weeks ago, email lists are terrible places to pick up used bikes most of the time. The MCN used bike guide lists a 1992 KRL650 for $955. So Brian, care to fill us in as to what is *so* special about your `92? Russell D. Stephan Technology Management Consulting, Inc. 6479 Reflections Drive, Suite 150. Dublin, Ohio 43017 Voice: (614) 760-3065 Fax: (614) 760-3360

If the MCN guide is like most used bike guides, it will probably assume steady depreciation from year to year. That assumption is not necessarily reflected in actual market prices. Mileage and condition probably has a lot more to do with price than does model year. I wouldn't choke at all on $1700 for an A6, unless its condition dictated a lower price. On the other hand, $950 for a 1992 in average condition sounds like a steal to me. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Russell D. Stephan" wrote:

> On 6 May 2003, at 22:37, Brian Cool wrote: > > > Just got a A-4 new to me. so I am going to sell my A-6. > > > Like I said a number of weeks ago, email lists are terrible places

to pick up

> used bikes most of the time. > > The MCN used bike guide lists a 1992 KRL650 for $955. > > So Brian, care to fill us in as to what is *so* special about your

`92?

> > > > > > Russell D. Stephan > Technology Management Consulting, Inc. > 6479 Reflections Drive, Suite 150. > Dublin, Ohio 43017 > > Voice: (614) 760-3065 > Fax: (614) 760-3360

Just out of interest (regarding the previous ebay comment) it seems like you could make money buying a new bike and ebaying the whole thing piece by piece. Has anyone ever tried this? Sorry for the Kramer-esque questions (Sienfeld) -ben __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones" wrote:

> If the MCN guide is like most used bike guides, it will probably > assume steady depreciation from year to year. That assumption is

not

> necessarily reflected in actual market prices. Mileage and

condition

> probably has a lot more to do with price than does model year. I > wouldn't choke at all on $1700 for an A6, unless its condition > dictated a lower price. On the other hand, $950 for a 1992 in

average

> condition sounds like a steal to me.

I paid $1500 for an 89 last november, and it seemed like the best deal around here (SF Bay Area). It is identical to a newer one, for all practical purposes. It had 23,600 miles on it and also came with a "salvage" title, which I don't care about, seeing as I bought the bike for riding, not for any other reason.

On 7 May 2003, at 18:44, Judson D. Jones wrote:

> If the MCN guide is like most used bike guides, it will probably > assume steady depreciation from year to year. >

Steady depreciation... Gee, pretty much the way the world works for most consumables. Kelly Blue Book on a `92. KLR650 Trade-in value: $1,100.00 Retail dealer showroom price: $ 1,690.00 I'm still curious, what makes this `92 worth more than typical retail? Russell D. Stephan Technology Management Consulting, Inc. 6479 Reflections Drive, Suite 150. Dublin, Ohio 43017 Voice: (614) 760-3065 Fax: (614) 760-3360

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Russell D. Stephan" wrote:

> Steady depreciation... Gee, pretty much the way the world works for

most

> consumables.

Sure, but if the age doesn't relate as directly as usual to utility, useful life or "iconic" value, then the market price won't bear out the assumption regarding depreciation. If you could show me a market where I could readily put my hands on a $950 '92, then I'd choke on $1700, too. If they were available, I'd have one (or maybe three), instead of my $2900 '98.

> > Kelly Blue Book on a `92. KLR650 > > Trade-in value: $1,100.00 > > Retail dealer showroom price: $ 1,690.00 > > I'm still curious, what makes this `92 worth more than typical

retail? You may be letting the tail wag the dog. I'm not sure the blue book really represents "typical retail", or if there is such a thing. I suspect that the blue book on used motorcycles is based on extremely limited information, even more so for a low-volume item like the KLR. I live in a metro area of about 2 1/2 million, and would be hard-pressed on a given week to find any used KLR on a dealer's floor, or in the local want-ads, especially one as old as a '92. But if $1,690 is typical, my question would be: 'How did this guy know to set his price within ten bucks of blue book?'

In a message dated 2003-05-07 1:29:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, russell.stephan@... writes:

> > On 7 May 2003, at 18:44, Judson D. Jones wrote: > > >If the MCN guide is like most used bike guides, it will probably > >assume steady depreciation from year to year. > > > Steady depreciation... Gee, pretty much the way the world works for most > consumables. > > Kelly Blue Book on a `92. KLR650 > > Trade-in value: $1,100.00 > > Retail dealer showroom price: $ 1,690.00 > > I'm still curious, what makes this `92 worth more than typical retail? > >

Just as a reference, the prices for the MCN used bike guide comes from the AMA Used Bike Guide Pat G'ville, Nv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

VIRUS --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones" wrote:

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