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--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "canukasaki" wrote:

> I went into the Kawi dealer here in Ottawa this afternoon to look

at mods that will give my KLR a little more more zing. He recommended that I go with a Super Trapp exhaust, K&N air filter and a Dynojet kit. Dealer claims an

> additional 8hp with this set up. Sounds like a bunch considering

the

> 48HP with the stock setup. > >

Ha Ha, sounds like everyone is dreaming, here.

That is in Canadian horsepower - kind of like km to miles;) sn

----- Original Message ----- From: "monahanwb" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Super Trapp/K&N/Dynojet Advise? > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "canukasaki" wrote: > > I went into the Kawi dealer here in Ottawa this afternoon to look > at mods that will give my KLR a little more more zing. He > recommended that I go with a Super Trapp exhaust, K&N air filter and > a Dynojet kit. Dealer claims an > > additional 8hp with this set up. Sounds like a bunch considering > the > > 48HP with the stock setup. > > > > > > Ha Ha, sounds like everyone is dreaming, here. > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

The only winner is likely to be the dealer. The KLR is less about HP and more about adaptability -at least for the yocals on this list. My oh-so-modest advice: 1. Replace the doohickey. 2. Invest in brakes, Galfer Green front, and stainless brake lines front. 3. Front suspension Progressive LR springs, and 10 or 15wt fork oil, fork brace if you can afford it. 4. Other guards for offroad use alum skid plate, alum hand guards & plasti covers, IMS shifter, rear brake master cyl guard, 5. Tires to suit your riding preference. 6. Subframe upgrade kit. After this, it's mostly personal preference, or just farkle. Mark A9, A1

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "canukasaki" wrote: > Hi, > > I went into the Kawi dealer here in Ottawa this afternoon to look at > mods that will give my KLR a little more more zing. Snows finally > starting to melt! He recommended that I go with a Super Trapp > exhaust, K&N air filter and a Dynojet kit. Dealer claims an > additional 8hp with this set up. Sounds like a bunch considering the > 48HP with the stock setup. > > If anyone has tried this I'd appreciate any advise about the real > results that I can expect. Also any advise on setting this stuff up > would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Barry

Dealer is blowing smoke up your arse. Typical improvement for changing out the exhaust and a jet kit is going to be about 2-4 horsepower at best - most folks would only figure a 5-10% performance improvement by doing nothing more than reversing the effect of EPA requirements. The quote by K&N that their filters improve performance is pure bunk when compared to a stock air filter. The KLR has a foam filter that flows as much air as a K&N with superior filtration. Having said that, I am running an IDS, dynojet kit and a swiss cheesed airbox. The big reason for making the changes, rather some consider it farkle or not, is that it ads noticeable oomph to the low to mid range power. I ride at base elevation of 5000' so I was already down on power just due to the elevation. The bike was hardpressed to get much above 90. With the mods the speedometer needle tops out just short of an indicated 100 while maintaining a solid 50 mpg at extra legal speeds and 60+mpg is I kept it at the posted limits. Pat G'ville, Nv In a message dated 2003-03-26 7:48:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, bpelley@... writes:

> > Hi, > > I went into the Kawi dealer here in Ottawa this afternoon to look at > mods that will give my KLR a little more more zing. Snows finally > starting to melt! He recommended that I go with a Super Trapp > exhaust, K&N air filter and a Dynojet kit. Dealer claims an > additional 8hp with this set up. Sounds like a bunch considering the > 48HP with the stock setup. > > If anyone has tried this I'd appreciate any advise about the real > results that I can expect. Also any advise on setting this stuff up > would be much appreciated. > >

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canukasaki wrote: Dealer claims an

> additional 8hp with this set up. Sounds like a bunch considering the > 48HP with the stock setup. >

Sounds like a "bunch" of bullsh*t. stock motor- http://www.devonjarvisphoto.com/posted/KLR650/carb_install/images/KLR650_stock_dyno.jpg 48 hp is on the crankshaft, rear wheel HP is a lot more relevant. 2-4hp is a more likely increase, and most people lose 2-3mpg for every HP increase they get. I thought the IDS2 was annoyingly noisy, and if you want to ride offroad where it's really dirty or muddy or wet, you may not want to mess with the airbox. If you can still get 50mpg with a jet kit, then god bless you. Most people lose a fair bit of mileage when they mess with the jetting. Devon

My best advise is save your money. However, I've still got my $100 bill for anyone that can show me a legitimate dyno graph reflecting an 8 hp increase with just carb and pipe mods. No freakin' way. I don't believe that kind of percentage from the KLR 650 motor is possible without major engine mods... Thanks CA Stu

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Devon Jarvis wrote: > canukasaki wrote: > Dealer claims an > > additional 8hp with this set up. Sounds like a bunch considering the > > 48HP with the stock setup. > > > > Sounds like a "bunch" of bullsh*t. stock motor- > > http://www.devonjarvisphoto.com/posted/KLR650/carb_install/images/KLR6 50_stock_dyno.jpg > > 48 hp is on the crankshaft, rear wheel HP is a lot more > relevant. 2-4hp is a more likely increase, and most people > lose 2-3mpg for every HP increase they get. > > I thought the IDS2 was annoyingly noisy, and if you want to > ride offroad where it's really dirty or muddy or wet, you > may not want to mess with the airbox. > > If you can still get 50mpg with a jet kit, then god bless > you. Most people lose a fair bit of mileage when they mess > with the jetting. > > Devon

I think my dyno run was after I turned out the pilot screw to 1.25 turns. Stock was 3/4 turns, I only turned it out enough to get rid of the lean surging. I haven't seen anyone get before and after dyno runs, especially anyone who is claiming a big power increase. Frankly the ass-dyno isn't too reliable since a midrange flat spot can make it feel like the bike suddenly got a big hit of power at the top end, even if peak HP didn't change. I've always felt that performance suffers badly when the bike runs out of gas. If I wanted a fast bike I would have bought something else. A 14t sprocket makes it easy enough to loft the front for clearing logs in the woods, and the bike is pretty quiet. Devon coolmaduro wrote:

> > Devon, > > Have you, or are you aware of anyone doing a dyno before and after the > pilot scew adjustment? It seems to me that when I did it, I had a > noticible increase in low end power (or torque). I would be curious > to see the difference in power between completely stock (running > lean), adjusting the pilot, and then doing the pipe, carb, airbox mod. > Any thoughts? > > Thanks. > > -cm >

> From: "gpokluda" > Subject: Re: NKLR rotary hammer > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krok wrote: > > > > > From: "Stu" > > > Subject: Re: Bolts Into Concrete ?? nklr > > > > > > Alright ladies, smooth your skirts out and listen up: > > > The correct tool for the job is a rotary hammer. > > > > I'll second that... We borrowed a Milwaulke Eagle from another > lab to > > install the wind tunnel fan anchors. 1" diameter hole 8 or 12" > deep > > (forgotten by now), punched the holes in high-strength concrete in > about > > 30 sec each. At least it would have, if I hadn't hit rebar in > damn near > > every hole. Had to switch over to a (non-percussive) carbide > rebar core > > drill to get through that, and THAT sucked. > > > > Krokko > > > > > Geeze, you girly-men and your electric tools. Just call the > pentagon and have them direct a "bunker-buster" to your house. That > should put a big enough hole and changing a tire would be the least > of your worries. > > Gino > www.rvmc.com

Is someone just feeling a little extra-manly today after getting back on a man's bike? Congrats on the new bike, I hope your hormones settle back to normal, and welcome back O honorable father of KLRDSN. CA Stu