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The new Camelback M.U.L.E. (Omega system) -- large opening, could help you out. Has two external pockets to fit items (like GPS). Has a sterum strap to clip GPS. Can be worn backwards to access pockets while traveling down the road. I have a Garmin RINO 120 GPS -- also functions as FRS/GMRS radio. Nice gadget. M.U.L.E. about $70, Garmin RINO 110/120 range btwn $150-$220. Both GPS/radios, 120 has 8MB storage. V/R Jon S. '03 KLR 650 From: "maudibbb" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] KLR Hydration and GPS units. Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:42:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: 67.0.59.88 Received: from n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.77]) by mc4-f34.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:42:55 -0800 Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2003 05:42:52 -0000 Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 23 Mar 2003 05:42:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 68397 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2003 05:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Mar 2003 05:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.72) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2003 05:42:51 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.182] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Mar 2003 05:42:51 -0000 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Q1OJDRSDidP X-eGroups-Return: sentto-488385-69411-1048398170-jonsorensen=hotmail.com@... X-Sender: deleeuwp@... X-Apparently-To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Profile: maudibbb Mailing-List: list DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com; contact DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Return-Path: sentto-488385-69411-1048398170-jonsorensen=hotmail.com@... X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2003 05:42:55.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DB270C0:01C2F0FF] Hi Folks, I'm looking to buy a hydration unit such as Platypus, to keep me in water down here in the Sonoran Desert. Are there any made specifically to hook onto the tank of my KLR somehow, or will I have to just figure out a way to do it?. What do most of you people do for water? Use one of the backpack types? I'd like a LARGE capacity of water, and I was thinking an opening large enough to stuff icecubes through would be nice. There seems like about a thousand different brands and types of these units, so I was hoping for some assistance. The other item I wanted to buy, of which there are way to many different models, is GPS units. I'd like to get one that I can carry in my pocket. Can anyone give me helpful advice as to why some models are better then others, and what are the important features to look for? I've seen people say that the GPS units can suffer when mounted on the KLR from vibration. Would keeping the unit in a backpack or shirt pocket reduce the vibration enough to maintain reliability? Thanks!!!!! Peter List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "maudibbb" wrote:

> What do most of you people do for > water? Use one of the backpack types? I'd like a LARGE capacity

Here is what I do: I use the large 'camelback' type container and put it in my tank bag. The hose lets me drink on the go. I wear camelbacks ALL the time in the Summer; running, biking, yardwork, etc. But, wearing the container on my back while on the KLR bugs the heck outta me for some reason.

> The other item I wanted to buy, of which there are way to many > different models, is GPS units.

They are all pretty good. I like Garmin because they seem to have more free software written for them. I would get one that has a external attenna (handy on long car trips). The KLR vibrates the hell out of the unit, but they seem to hold up. Other than that, it is just how much you want to spend for fancy features that you want. Pat

For hydration, rather than one unit, I have a pile of things that I mix and match. I've got a 2 ltr Camelback (3 ltr would be better) and 3 Platypus bags of different sizes. If it's a hot day (>105) I'll use the Camelback. For lesser days, a Platy bag in the tankbag. I'll always carry extra water in a tailbag, saddlebags, etc. The bags have held up fine, but bite valves will only last several days for me, so I'm buying extras periodically. It's easy to run out of water on a hot day, so I refill often. Some people underestimate the dehydrating effect of a 100-degree, 60-mph wind. Note that riding in the heat requires, IMO, hot weather riding gear. There are a lot of opinions on that; I use a BMW Airflow jacket and Marsee mesh pants. The Joe Rocket Phoenix is very popular, but I don't completely trust it. There are lots of options. Motorcycle Consumer News did a report on them last year. I don't have a Marsee cooling vest yet, but have read great things about them. I have an ETrex Legend, and use Ram mounts, for about 2 years without a failure. The bigger units are nicer to view and operate, if you want to spend the $. If you're worried about vibration, I think Touratech makes isolated mounts for around $85, available from Cycoactive. Having had an earlier non-mapping GPS and a newer mapping GPS, I think the mapping feature is a Dramatic(!) increase in utility. The Roads and Rec software is about $99 extra, and is what really makes a GPS useful. Here in AZ, the maps aren't perfect, but have most forrest and fireroads, in addition to everything larger. Jett, AZ

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "maudibbb" wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm looking to buy a hydration unit such as Platypus, to keep me in > water down here in the Sonoran Desert. Are there any made > specifically to hook onto the tank of my KLR somehow, or will I have > to just figure out a way to do it?. What do most of you people do for ...

Hey Maud Dib.........don't Fremen already have classy stillsuits? If you're gonna pack the water carrier in your tankbag or in a pack somewhere on your body, any of the water bladders from Platypus or Camelbak, etc. will do. You might want to go for a Camelbak "Unbottle" if you want to have a protective sheath around the bladder in this scenario.......they might be vulnerable to damage otherwise. Or you could rig your own bladder protection. I have one of the several Camelbak backpack models that has a 100 oz. capacity (the largest they make). It sheaths the bladder, has extra storage compartments, and lets me jump on and off the bike (for hiking and such) hassle free. The later models are available with the wider mouth openings. AFAIK, there are no ready-made units by any brand specifically designed to mount on a KLR. I own and use a Garmin eTrex Vista, the top of the line eTrex with 24 MB memory. The entire eTrex line uses the same compact lightweight housing.........the smallest I'm aware of. The Vista and the next couple down the line are waterproof, with the bottom of the line units being water resistant. The eTrex line doesn't have the large color pictures like some other larger heavier units, but it is a better candidate for pocket carrying. I have yet to install my Vista on the bars with a RAM mount and the special vibration-resistant power adapter, both acquired from Cyco-Active. I haven't heard any definitive reports comparing the RAM and Touratech mounts, but the Touratech is more than double the price of the RAM, so maybe it's sposed to be sturdier or more vibration dampening than the RAM? I may be wrong, but I've heard the vibration problem is with the battery/power connections, not the unit integrity or internal electronics................. this is why I got the special vibration-resistant power adapter. Minimizing shocks and vibration to the entire unit would be wise anyway. If reading the GPS while on the bike is not important, eschew mounting it altogether and just use batteries. Happy hydration and optimal orienteering, blue-within-blue eyes........ The Mule

----- Original Message ----- From: "maudibbb" To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:42 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] KLR Hydration and GPS units. > Hi Folks, > > I'm looking to buy a hydration unit such as Platypus, to keep me in > water down here in the Sonoran Desert. Are there any made > specifically to hook onto the tank of my KLR somehow, or will I have > to just figure out a way to do it?. What do most of you people do for > water? Use one of the backpack types? I'd like a LARGE capacity of > water, and I was thinking an opening large enough to stuff icecubes > through would be nice. There seems like about a thousand different > brands and types of these units, so I was hoping for some assistance. > The other item I wanted to buy, of which there are way to many > different models, is GPS units. I'd like to get one that I can carry > in my pocket. Can anyone give me helpful advice as to why some models > are better then others, and what are the important features to look > for? I've seen people say that the GPS units can suffer when mounted > on the KLR from vibration. Would keeping the unit in a backpack or > shirt pocket reduce the vibration enough to maintain reliability? > > Thanks!!!!! > > Peter > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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