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military gas tank
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:15 pm
by krmills12000
I need to replace my 1994 KLR 650 stock gas tank.
I called the dealer and it will cost $500+.
I asked if he knew of anything better.......he said that the military
purchases the KLR and immediately replaces the gas tank and other
parts. They then resell these offed parts for quite cheap.
Anyone heard of this?? Anyone know how to get more info on this??
Kenny
krmills1@...
military gas tank
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:28 pm
by Stu
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "krmills12000" wrote:
> I need to replace my 1994 KLR 650 stock gas tank.
> I called the dealer and it will cost $500+.
> I asked if he knew of anything better.......he said that the
military
> purchases the KLR and immediately replaces the gas tank and other
> parts. They then resell these offed parts for quite cheap.
>
> Anyone heard of this?? Anyone know how to get more info on this??
>
> Kenny
> krmills1@e...
Hi Ken, see
http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Brand/Kawasaki/2000_body_parts.htm
I bought a tank for mine for $100 from them...
Stu
military gas tank
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:27 pm
by Greg S
Right outa the FAQ:
(
http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html)
"Where can I get another fuel tank?
IMS makes a couple of different plastic replacement tanks for the KLR:
the 5.5 gallon, and the 6.6 gallon "military tank" (part #113121, used
on the USMC diesel KLR) which has the shrouds molded in. Some people
refer to this as a 7-gallon tank, but the volume range is due to
production variances. IMS may not list this tank on their web site, but
they will make it on special order. You can specify any color they use.
Black (B1) is supposedly best for sweat resistance (the fuel's, not
yours); there is also green (G2), translucent green (G3), white (W1) and
natural (N1). They also may have a coating that prevents fuel sweating.
Here's the kicker (thanks, Walt): When you get a military tank, you are
actually getting the commercial version of the military tank. The
bonafide military tank has a different gas cap with a check valve in the
vent to prevent leaks. The commercial version has a rubber baffle. The
cap sizes are different, and not interchangeable between the two tanks.
It appears that Dual Star is the only dealer that can provide the true
military fuel tank. "
http://www.imsproducts.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?product_id=03
019&setup_file=web_store.setup.db
Shows a 5.5 gal. tank for $225....
Also found an Acerbis tank for the KL*X*, so I'm not sure if it's
compatible....
http://www.mxsouth.com/acerbis/acbbodgaskaw.htm
None of these seem to have locking caps however.
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Subject: [DSN_klr650] MIlitary Gas Tank
I need to replace my 1994 KLR 650 stock gas tank.
I called the dealer and it will cost $500+.
I asked if he knew of anything better.......he said that the military
purchases the KLR and immediately replaces the gas tank and other
parts. They then resell these offed parts for quite cheap.
Anyone heard of this?? Anyone know how to get more info on this??
Kenny
krmills1@...
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military gas tank
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 8:27 am
by steve pye
----- Original Message -----
From: "krmills12000"
> I need to replace my 1994 KLR 650 stock gas tank.
> said that the military
> purchases the KLR and immediately replaces the gas tank and other
> parts. They then resell these offed parts for quite cheap.
>
> Anyone heard of this?? Anyone know how to get more info on this??
>
> Kenny
Check out
www.dual-star.com
Steve
military gas tank
Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 12:02 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> The
> bonafide military tank has a different gas cap with a check valve in the
> vent to prevent leaks. The commercial version has a rubber baffle. The
> cap sizes are different, and not interchangeable between the two tanks.
> It appears that Dual Star is the only dealer that can provide the true
> military fuel tank. "
>
Huh....the guy at IMS - not the female that answers the phone but the male
she refers you to if you have tricky questions - told me that the only
difference between the caps was the size of the threads. Where did you get
your info ? Also, I thought that Dual Star only sold the stock tanks that
the military god rid of before putting on the IMS units.
Bogdan
military gas tank
Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 8:26 pm
by Guest
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Walter Lesnowich"
wrote:
I called IMS
> and gave her measurements but she insisted they only use one cap so
> I must have a defective or something so she will send me another
cap.
> I said to her well OK but could you check first because I think it
might
> be different for the Military Tank. I ended up getting another of
the
> standard caps.
> Walt
> A14 "War Horse"
I had a similar problem with a "her" at IMS with my military/civilian
tank. My aluminum bracket at the back of the tank was bent the wrong
way and made the tank sit 3/4 inch to one side. the holes are not
simetrical in the tank. Thats OK because the bracket has(supose to
have) the holes offset in the same direction to compensate. On mine
they put the blank in the bending press upsidedown so it didn't work
right. I e-mail IMS and "she" told me they are not offset. I offset
drilled the bracket myself and fixed it. My guess is the person
answering the phones dont know diddley. If you get the civilian
version of the 7 gal tank you can use the Accerbis locking gas cap. I
cant remember the part number and its not in the catalog. I think it
had alot of ones in it. something like #2111111?????
military gas tank
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:20 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> he said he can get me the proper
> cap. It cost about $35 with shipping and is a metal casting with a
> highly
> engineered baffle with some kind of a check valve in the vent so it will
> not leak if the bike is other than upright.
>
So finally we have "the rrreeesssst of the story". I'm jealous of your
superior cap. For my use - touring with a tank bag and going down
regularly - the weak point of said tank is the venting system. The tank
bag crushes the vent tube and the tube - merely stuck onto a stem on top
the cap - is likely to fall off when you drop the bike thus spilling gas
on your tank bag. That way you're liable to have a nice gas odor in the
motel room when you turn in for the night. I rigged up a shade tree system
that protects the tube and all was/is kinda OK so far; worked for 7k
miles but it still makes me a bit nervous. So...last month I purchased a
one- way valve and rigged up a method that wold vent the tank would vent
sans tube. Well the valve will stop gas from getting out but not fumes. My
tank bag would have had the same relation to gas fumes as kielbasa has to
smoke. Same result: stinky motel room. Now to my question, Walt. Does your
super cap vent out fumes ? Do you still use the vent tube ?
Bogdan
military gas tank
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:24 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> If you get the civilian
> version of the 7 gal tank you can use the Accerbis locking gas cap. I
> cant remember the part number and its not in the catalog. I think it
> had alot of ones in it. something like #2111111?????
>
>
kcuf,
Do you know how this locking Acerbis cap vents ? Not in the
catalogue, that figures, nothing about this tank seems to be available in
a not circuitous way.
Bogdan
military gas tank
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:44 pm
by Devon Jarvis
Bogdan Swider wrote:
> alve and rigged up a method that wold vent the tank would vent
> sans tube. Well the valve will stop gas from getting out but not fumes. My
> tank bag would have had the same relation to gas fumes as kielbasa has to
> smoke. Same result: stinky motel room. Now to my question, Walt. Does your
> super cap vent out fumes ? Do you still use the vent tube ?
>
> Bogdan
Lately I've been having problems with the engine cutting out when the fuel tank vent clogs. Either snow or mud in the vent hose,
or maybe the passages in the cap are clogged.
Has anyone added a dirtbike-style tank vent to their KLR cap?
Devon
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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 10:02 pm
by monahanwb
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Jakeman" The
> next day he proudly announced that his wife's nipples were
about .390 inch
> in diameter. That's sick.
No, it's just about right.