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scottoil alternatives
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 11:44 am
by ghostrob
Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler?
I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding
rollers after about 6000 miles.
Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning
schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing
long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help.
Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity?
cheers
Rob Okey
96 KLRA10
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:04 pm
by Arden Kysely
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "ghostrob" wrote:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler?
> I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding
> rollers after about 6000 miles.
> Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning
> schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day
(doing
> long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help.
>
> Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity?
>
> cheers
>
> Rob Okey
> 96 KLRA10
Rob,
What kind of lube were you using? My chains last more like 12,000
miles with maybe one or two real cleanings in their lifetime (using
kerosene), if they're lucky. I use KalGard Chain Kote from
www.kalgard.com, which MCN missed when they did their big review.
It's pretty sticky and has a lot of moly in it. I use it on both the
KLR and my VFR 750. We don't get a lot of rain in SoCal, but I do
ride in the rain when it happens, and in the dirt, and the Kal Gard
sticks pretty well.
__Arden A11
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:08 pm
by dooden
WHAT ? you are suspose to clean chains ? Does'nt that take off all
the axle grease we spread on them to keep them from rusting ?
Figured a mud bath once and a while is enuff for me.
Duden
(btw there is sarcasim in there, for the sarcismless folks)
Golly Gee Wally... Is sarcasimless a word ? huh
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Arden Kysely" wrote:
> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "ghostrob" wrote:
> > Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler?
> > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding
> > rollers after about 6000 miles.
> > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning
> > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day
> (doing
> > long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really
help.
> >
> > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Rob Okey
> > 96 KLRA10
>
> Rob,
>
> What kind of lube were you using? My chains last more like 12,000
> miles with maybe one or two real cleanings in their lifetime (using
> kerosene), if they're lucky. I use KalGard Chain Kote from
>
www.kalgard.com, which MCN missed when they did their big review.
> It's pretty sticky and has a lot of moly in it. I use it on both
the
> KLR and my VFR 750. We don't get a lot of rain in SoCal, but I do
> ride in the rain when it happens, and in the dirt, and the Kal Gard
> sticks pretty well.
>
> __Arden A11
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 12:12 pm
by Devon Jarvis
I got 13,500mi out of my stock KLR chain and rear sprocket. 14t fronts
would last 3,000mi or so. I used a Scottoiler for all but the last
2,000mi, since I would occasionally snag the tubing on heavy brush.
By your standards the chain was still good to use, since it had no kinks
or tight spots, and the rollers were intact (though they jingled like
little bells).
You can use anything in a Scottoiler, as long as it will flow. I used
the Scottoil, ATF, Amsoil Bar'n'Chain oil, Mobil 10w40, 90w gear oil,
etc.
Cleaning the chain consisted of spraying WD-40 on it then wiping it with
a rag. The bike saw a LOT of dirt, rain, mud, and sand. Sometimes I
would clean the chain by just turning up the scottoiler to maximum and
riding on the highway. The chain would be clean in a matter of miles,
though the bike would get pretty dirty.
What mix of dirt-street riding do you do?
Devon
ghostrob wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler?
> I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding
> rollers after about 6000 miles.
> Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning
> schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing
> long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help.
>
> Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity?
>
> cheers
>
> Rob Okey
> 96 KLRA10
>
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 1:54 pm
by James L. Miller Jr.
Works for me. ATF from your local wally world. Over 13K on the
original chain (so far). With the exception of the 2 links that the
master link goes into, the chain is still tight enough to stand up on
it's own. A better reason for owning one was that I got it for $89
shipped, on Ebay! Haven't looked for a while. Chain is probably
good for another 5k if I keep and eye on those 2.
millerized
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "ghostrob" wrote:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler?
> I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding
> rollers after about 6000 miles.
> Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning
> schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day
(doing
> long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help.
>
> Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity?
>
> cheers
>
> Rob Okey
> 96 KLRA10
scottoil alternatives
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:12 pm
by Richard Baker
I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am
contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess though, but I
haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet
If you haven't already read it, here's an installation article on the Dual
Sport News site (
http://www.dualsportnews.com/klr/scott2.html)
-Rick
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Subject: [DSN_klr650] scottoil alternatives
> Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler?
> I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding
> rollers after about 6000 miles.
> Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning
> schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing
> long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help.
>
> Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity?
>
> cheers
>
> Rob Okey
> 96 KLRA10
>
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:25 pm
by PauL M. Bober
I have almost 70K on my A9 in 3 years. I bought an 'oiler when I got the
bike. I am just now 1/2 of the way through my X-ring chain that I bought at
the time I bought the 'oiler. They are a little messy ... Use the Scott oil
with it and spend a lot of money for a lube that does not leave a hard to
clean mess or buy 1 gaallon of 90wt. gear lube like I did and WD 40 to clean
on a regular basis. Oh, get a center stand or pit bike stand ... man does
that make chain maintance easy. I have the large .. but not touring model
reservoir. Fits nicely under the fuel tank and has easy access for the every
few days filling ..like I said 70K miles in 3 years.
PauL M. Bober
A9
420 KTM - for sale
89 F1
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Baker [mailto:rgbman@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:12 PM
To:
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] scottoil alternatives
I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am
contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess though, but I
haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 3:35 pm
by Devon Jarvis
I used one, it's great. I took it off because it didn't seem to suit the
type of offroading I do. I used whatever oil I had on hand- ATF, 10w40,
90w, chainsaw oil, Scottoil (which seems like a mix of ATF and chainsaw
oil).
I'm 3,000mi into my WD-40 experiment (new chain and sprockets, WD-40
only on chain) and we'll see what happens. If the wear rates are
comparable, I'll just put the scottoiler back on. If I rode almost all
street I would definitely reinstall the Scottoiler.
Devon
Richard Baker wrote:
>
> I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am
> contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess though, but I
> haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet
>
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 5:05 pm
by Lujo Bauer
I have a HawkeOiler. You push a button when you want some oil to drip on
the chain. Works great for me.
-Lujo
> I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am
> contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess
> though, but I
> haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet
>
> If you haven't already read it, here's an installation article on the
Dual
> Sport News site (
http://www.dualsportnews.com/klr/scott2.html)
>
> -Rick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ghostrob"
> To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:44 PM
> Subject: [DSN_klr650] scottoil alternatives
>
>
> > Does anyone know if it's possible to use ATF in a Scottoiler?
> > I'm considering getting one after my last chain started shedding
> > rollers after about 6000 miles.
> > Are they really worth the money or is a more thorough cleaning
> > schedule a better bet? I lubed my last chain almost every day (doing
> > long distances to work and back in rain) and it didn't really help.
> >
> > Any suggestions? Or any info on Scottoil viscosity?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Rob Okey
> > 96 KLRA10
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2002 7:34 pm
by Judson D. Jones
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Richard Baker" wrote:
> I've heard that chain saw oil and ATF both work fine. I too am
> contemplating a scottoiler. I hear they can make a real mess
though, but I
> haven't heard from anyone who's actually used one yet
>
I considered the scottoiler, but a couple of lukewarm reviews
and the price dissuaded me. For $37.95, the Loobman is a
simple, relatively low-cost alternative. I don't know about 40W as
a long-term chain preservative, but a squeeze on the plastic oil
reservoir every tankful or so keeps my chain and sprocket nicely
slimed.