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failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 5:06 pm
by W.V. Doran
Fellow Listers...My A11 just failed AZ emissions test...I was told the carb was running to rich, take it home, lean it out and return for retest. The carb was modified by previous owner...I have no clue what was done...the only change I made was reinstalling stock muffler. Is there a simple adjustment I can make to past the test? I have a new main jet #148, would this help? TIA... WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ ===== WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com

failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 5:29 pm
by W.V. Doran
Fellow Listers... My A11 just failed AZ emissions test.I was told the carb was running rich, take it home, lean it out and return for retest. Is there a simple adjustment I can make to pass the test? Thanks in advance... WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ ===== WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! http://shopping.yahoo.com

failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 5:31 pm
by kilrcalikawi
Did it fail at idle?
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "W.V. Doran" wrote: > Fellow Listers... My A11 just failed AZ emissions > test.I was told the carb was running rich, take it > home, lean it out and return for retest. Is there a > simple adjustment I can make to pass the test? > Thanks in advance... > WVDoran > Scottsdale, AZ > > ===== > WVDoran > Scottsdale, AZ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Mother's Day is May 12th! > http://shopping.yahoo.com

failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 6:47 pm
by John Lyon
W.V., For the benefit of people who do not live in AZ tell us about the test. Was it a simple jam the probe up the tail pipe and take a reading at idle or was it more complex? Did they give you any paperwork stating carbon monoxide, hydrocarbon or any other levels? The main jet is just one of many things that affects the Air/Fuel ratio. John --- "W.V. Doran" wrote:
> Fellow Listers...My A11 just failed AZ emissions > test...I was told the carb was running to rich, take > it home, lean it out and return for retest. The carb > was modified by previous owner...I have no clue what > was done...the only change I made was reinstalling > stock muffler. Is there a simple adjustment I can > make > to past the test? I have a new main jet #148, would > this help? > TIA... > WVDoran > Scottsdale, AZ
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failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 6:51 pm
by Devon Jarvis
If the test is run at idle only, clean the air filter and turn the idle mixture screw all the way in (count the number of turns so you can put it back), then back it out 3/4 of a turn. The bike will only start with choke, and might lean-surge on the highway. But it should run cleaner. If it's run on a "rolling road" setup at various throttle openings you have to rejet the entire carb. Devon
> > --- "W.V. Doran" wrote: > > Fellow Listers...My A11 just failed AZ emissions > > test...I was told the carb was running to rich, take > > it home, lean it out and return for retest. The carb > > was modified by previous owner...I have no clue what > > was done...the only change I made was reinstalling > > stock muffler. Is there a simple adjustment I can > > make > > to past the test? I have a new main jet #148, would > > this help? > > TIA... > > WVDoran > > Scottsdale, AZ > > _________________________

cleaning air filter

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 8:39 pm
by ridecaptan
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "guymanbro" wrote:
> I beleive No-Toil Filter oil is water soluble. > check 'em out at http://www.no-toil.com/ >
The Spectro SX filter oil is not, but the Spectro SX cleaner that breaks the oil down is, so after spraying on the cleaner and waiting a few minutes, you simply hose it off. Ed A15

failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 9:54 pm
by W.V. Doran
John...Normal test is at idle with probe stuffed in the muffler...after the first reading they asked me to hold the rpm's at 2200 for about 1 minute...then took another reading at idle.It passed hydrocarbons but failed carbon monoxide big time. I'm headed back to the garage... Thanks WVDoran --- John Lyon wrote:
> W.V., > > For the benefit of people who do not live in AZ tell > us about the test. Was it a simple jam the probe up > the tail pipe and take a reading at idle or was it > more complex? Did they give you any paperwork > stating > carbon monoxide, hydrocarbon or any other levels? > The > main jet is just one of many things that affects the > Air/Fuel ratio. > > John > > --- "W.V. Doran" wrote: > > Fellow Listers...My A11 just failed AZ emissions > > test...I was told the carb was running to rich, > take > > it home, lean it out and return for retest. The > carb > > was modified by previous owner...I have no clue > what > > was done...the only change I made was reinstalling > > stock muffler. Is there a simple adjustment I can > > make > > to past the test? I have a new main jet #148, > would > > this help? > > TIA... > > WVDoran > > Scottsdale, AZ >
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failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 10:06 pm
by W.V. Doran
Devon...I removed the main jet #148 however it seems to have been drilled out. I installed a stock #148 and set the idle mixture at 3/4 turns out. Of course I forgot to count the turns but I'd guess about 3. The air filter is clean. The test is normally done at idle, after the first reading they asked me to hold 2200 rpm's for about 1 minute and then retested at idle. It failed carbon monoxide.I'll try again tomorrow... Thanks WVDoran --- Devon Jarvis wrote:
> If the test is run at idle only, clean the air > filter and turn the idle > mixture screw all the way in (count the number of > turns so you can put > it back), then back it out 3/4 of a turn. The bike > will only start with > choke, and might lean-surge on the highway. But it > should run cleaner. > > If it's run on a "rolling road" setup at various > throttle openings you > have to rejet the entire carb. > > Devon > > > >
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failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 10:10 pm
by W.V. Doran
Sorry about the double (triple?) posting... WVDoran
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failed emission test

Posted: Thu May 09, 2002 10:51 pm
by John Lyon
W.V., Thanks for the info. If you failed CO then you are running rich. Be careful leaning it out because you can fail HC with an overly rich OR lean mixture). Devon has made some great points. You may also want to inspect/replace the spark plug and check the gap. John --- "W.V. Doran" wrote:
> Devon...I removed the main jet #148 however it seems > to have been drilled out. I installed a stock #148 > and > set the idle mixture at 3/4 turns out. Of course I > forgot to count the turns but I'd guess about 3. The > air filter is clean. The test is normally done at > idle, after the first reading they asked me to hold > 2200 rpm's for about 1 minute and then retested at > idle. It failed carbon monoxide.I'll try again > tomorrow... > Thanks > WVDoran > --- Devon Jarvis wrote: > > If the test is run at idle only, clean the air > > filter and turn the idle > > mixture screw all the way in (count the number of > > turns so you can put > > it back), then back it out 3/4 of a turn. The bike > > will only start with > > choke, and might lean-surge on the highway. But it > > should run cleaner. > > > > If it's run on a "rolling road" setup at various > > throttle openings you > > have to rejet the entire carb. > > > > Devon
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