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down for a week
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2002 1:23 pm
by guytal1
Feeling like a total idiot. I removed the tank to see if I can route
wiring under there for my cigarette lighter outlet (ended up using
the spare connectors under the fairing instead). Trying to put it
back together, I stripped one ot the screws that hold the back of the
tank.
Went to the dealer to get a replacement and they don't have them in
stock. Got to wait a week for them to order some. Sucks to be
disabled because of one little screw.
Man, I hope it rains a lot this week....
Oh - many many thanks to everyone who wrote me with advice in
installing the lighter outlet.
Guy
KLR650 A13
down for a week
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2002 1:43 pm
by Zachariah Mully
Whatever dolt "warned" you against replacing bolts with non-OEM bolts
was obviously a motorcycle dealer. Go find a hardware with a good metric
bolt selection and learn how to use a thread pitch gauge and bolt size
gauge (they look like small rectagular plates with holes of various
sizes in them). Usually, at a good hardware store, they have better
grade bolts than OEM. Mine carries nothing but 8.9+ metric bolts as well
as a sizeable selection of SS metrics.
Z
DC
On Fri, 2002-04-26 at 14:36, Guy Tal wrote:
>
>
> >Uhhh... Hardware store? The bolt is nothing special, pull the other, go
> >to your local hardware and get a replacement.
>
> Hmm.. I've been warned against that. Something about the danger of stripping
> the threads in the frame if I get the wrong one.
> As I mentioned - I'm mechanically challenged and new to KLRs. Then again,
> the urge to ride is getting overwhelming. I don't know if I can hold out for
> a week. I'll stop by Home Depot and see if they can match it exactly.
>
> Thanks,
> Guy
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down for a week
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 11:13 am
by guytal1
> Go find a hardware with a good metric bolt selection (...)
Well, I went to 4 different stores and none of them stocked metric bolts. I finally found a store dedicated to nutes and bolts.
The guy was scratching his head for a few minutes and could not find a matching screw. The screw is indeed a 6mm hex, but the
thread density is not standard so a regular bolt would not work. Way to go Kawasaki!
Sure glad this didn't happen to me somewhere in South America or something. I'll make sure to carry spares for that one on long
trips.
Guy
KLR650 A13 (still down)
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:31 pm
by Zachariah Mully
What's not standard about a 6mm x 30mm x 1.0 bolt? (or 0.75, I can't
remember) Just to be sure this is part no. 130J0630, right? Besides if
you're not riding off-road, then one-bolt should hold the tank just
fine. Until you get your OEM bolt, spend some time on the bike finding a
store that carries metric
Z
DC
On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 12:13, guytal1 wrote:
>
> > Go find a hardware with a good metric bolt selection (...)
>
> Well, I went to 4 different stores and none of them stocked metric bolts. I finally found a store dedicated to nutes and bolts.
> The guy was scratching his head for a few minutes and could not find a matching screw. The screw is indeed a 6mm hex, but the
> thread density is not standard so a regular bolt would not work. Way to go Kawasaki!
> Sure glad this didn't happen to me somewhere in South America or something. I'll make sure to carry spares for that one on long
> trips.
>
> Guy
> KLR650 A13 (still down)
>
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 2:47 pm
by Devon Jarvis
Yes, the sooner you can stop relying on your local dealer, the sooner
you will get more riding in. The really silly thing is the dealer makes
maybe $2.50 on the bolt, not including paying the guy by the hour to
talk to you then look it up and put the order into the computer. All
told they probably lose money selling you one bolt.
If you get someone with a little imagination and ingenuity, they would
have found a substitute (or told you where to find a useable
replacement), saved themselves the hassle of ordering it, and made you
happy enough to come back and spend money on something more substantial.
But unfortunately this appears to be too much to ask, except in isolated
cases.
Go to an automotive store like Pep Boys, Napa etc, they often have a
section of metric hardware. I know pep boys does. Bring the remaining
bolt, hold it against a bolt that is the right diameter and length, so
the threads mesh. They should mesh perfectly (no "skipped teeth),
allowing the bolts to lay flat. This is an easy way to tell the right
one without a thread gauge.
Devon
A15 (particularly annoyed about this myself today)
Zachariah Mully wrote:
>
> What's not standard about a 6mm x 30mm x 1.0 bolt? (or 0.75, I can't
> remember) Just to be sure this is part no. 130J0630, right? Besides if
> you're not riding off-road, then one-bolt should hold the tank just
> fine. Until you get your OEM bolt, spend some time on the bike finding a
> store that carries metric
>
> Z
> DC
>
> On Sat, 2002-04-27 at 12:13, guytal1 wrote:
> >
> > > Go find a hardware with a good metric bolt selection (...)
> >
> > Well, I went to 4 different stores and none of them stocked metric bolts. I finally found a store dedicated to nutes and bolts.
down for a week
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 4:02 pm
by Guy Tal
>What's not standard about a 6mm x 30mm x 1.0 bolt?
According to the specialty nut & bolt store I went to, the Kawasaki bolt has
a non-standard thread density (24 instead of 20 or the other way around,
can't remember).
Unless someone tells me they actually are using a non-OEM screw, I don't
want to take the chance.
Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 4:20 pm
by Devon Jarvis
For starters, the Kawi bolt is metric, and metric bolts are not
specified in threads-per-inch, which is what "20" or "24" means. 1/4x20
means 1/4" diameter and 20tpi.
Metric bolts are specified by the thread pitch, i.e. 6mmx30mmx1.0 means
6mm diameter, 30mm from the bearing surface on the bottom of the head to
the end, and 1.0mm between threads.
It sounds like the guy at the "specialty" bolt shop was confused. Odd
size bolts are expensive, the KLR is cheap, they aren't used if there is
any other alternative.
Devon
Guy Tal wrote:
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 6:29 pm
by planetequipment
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Guy Tal" wrote:
>
> >What's not standard about a 6mm x 30mm x 1.0 bolt?
>
> According to the specialty nut & bolt store I went to, the Kawasaki
bolt has
> a non-standard thread density (24 instead of 20 or the other way
around,
> can't remember).
> Unless someone tells me they actually are using a non-OEM screw, I
don't
> want to take the chance.
>
> Guy
>
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My A15 came with numerous stripped/cross-threaded bolts. Included
were the tank bolts. I just ran a "standard" tap through the welded
in nuts and replaced the stripped bolts with 6mm ones. I don't
remember the pitch, but I think it was 1mm.
Ron
etrex mount drawing
Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 6:49 pm
by ridecaptan
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "bradklr650"
wrote:
> I uploaded a quick and dirty drawing of the gps mount I made in
the
> photos section. I tried first to put it in the files area but we
> didn't have room there for it.
>
> As noted on the drawing the actual dimensions aren't known, I
started
> by measuring and laying out and it gradually became more of a free
> form design as I went along, but I think you can get the "picture"
of
> what I did. This type of mount should work for about any vertical
> style gps or cell phone.
>
> No patent pending as this point.
>
> Brad
Nice diagram Brad, thanks for uploading it. BTW, that was the first
time I went to the Photo's section. I just happened to catch
the "Great chest protector" photo. WOW, is that one of our listers
girl friend? If so, he's a lucky man.
Ed
A15