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important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 11:52 pm
by David McClymont
Just been catching up on all of the posts.... been away for awhile... and
noticed that the balancer DooHickey is still making news... Well I thought I
would give people some information on it...
First of all... before I say anything... if you can buy one of Jake's
aftermarket jobs... go for it... I'm sure that will be a big improvement....
if you are keen to try and fix it yourself, here's a little information
about it.
Kawasaki seem to have 2 versions of the DooHicky... the earlier pressed
metal version wasn't strong enough to cope with the job, and Kawasaki
quickly brought out a thicker 2 piece job which was welded together.
However, because this is a thicker piece, the circlip which held the
original one in place could no longer be installed (someone asked about this
a few days ago ). I'm not sure if this was rectified in later models...
Anyway... as everyone knows... the new DooHicky still breaks!
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A SOLUTION
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Anyway... it is my believe that this piece is failing due to improper heat
treatment... something that you should be able to rectify yourself. Welding
a small piece like this can often lead to very fast cooling - effectively
embrittling the piece... To rectify this, the DooHicky should be placed into
a kiln (go to local pottery or hobby ceramics shop, or go to an engineering
firm) and heated up pretty bloody hot (red hot), and let cool over a number
of hours in the kiln. This will give you a nice uniform metallic grain
structure, although it will be pretty weak at this stage. Once it has
cooled, you should reheat it again- this time to around 200 degrees C, and
then take it out and dunk (quench) it in a dish of oil (not water). This
will toughen up the piece so that you shouldn't have any more problems with
it.
I cant guarantee that this will be the cure-all... but I have talked to some
Material Engineers that I know and they seem to agree with this. Other
people on this list might like to comment.
cheers
David McClymont
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important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 12:11 am
by Ryan Newman
> Just been catching up on all of the posts.... been away for awhile... and
> noticed that the balancer DooHickey is still making news... Well I thought
I
> would give people some information on it...
Ok, exactly what piece is this? Is this the one that has a circle on one
end, and then a banana shaped oblong area at the other? The one that seems
to shatter into numerous pieces?
Ryan
important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 12:26 am
by David McClymont
Yep...that's the one. Someone on the list called it the DooHickey and
apparently its the official name for it now!! otherwise it is known as an
"idler" something-or-other..
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Newman [mailto:silverghost@...]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:05 PM
To: KLR650
Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Important news about Balancer DooHickey!!!!!
> Just been catching up on all of the posts.... been away for awhile... and
> noticed that the balancer DooHickey is still making news... Well I thought
I
> would give people some information on it...
Ok, exactly what piece is this? Is this the one that has a circle on one
end, and then a banana shaped oblong area at the other? The one that seems
to shatter into numerous pieces?
Ryan
important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 6:17 am
by hens_p
I didn't think any aftermarket one were on the market.
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., David McClymont wrote:
if you can buy one of Jake's
> aftermarket jobs... go for it...
important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 10:39 am
by TLrydr@aol.com
In a message dated 3/22/02 0:55:38 AM EST, mcclymon@... writes:
>>
Jake is holding out, I didnt no he had a updated thingy.....
Mike
important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 12:43 pm
by Mark St.Hilaire, Sr
> My guess is B. Maybe Jake can answer this. If B is correct, should we
do a
> group heat treat. We buy a bunch of DooHickies and treat them all at
once.
> Probably makes no sense to harden a used DooHickey since it has wear on
it.
> If I remember correctly they are only about 14 bucks each??? Can anyone
get
> a price to have someone do some hardening? Who's willing to take this
> project on?
Jay, you must have missed Jake's post on this:
[From Jake]
Patience, please, boys and girls! Now preparing the first eight balancer
chain adjuster levers for the journey up to the heat treater in SLC.
Several listers are torn down and waiting for theirs. You can e-mail me
if you're interested, and I can shoot you a pic of the latest stage of
manufacture. Trying to get these off to heat treat this weekend.
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Jake is clearly a man with a plan, and is on the job! (Grin)
Wise men still seek Him...
Mark St.Hilaire, Sr
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important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 12:54 pm
by Ryan Newman
> > My guess is B. Maybe Jake can answer this.
> Patience, please, boys and girls! Now preparing the first eight balancer
> chain adjuster levers for the journey up to the heat treater in SLC
I think he was just asking if the new ones were made from steel of aluminum.
Ryan
nklr: ugly bikes
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 12:58 pm
by TexasThumpin@aol.com
In a message dated 3/21/02 10:06:28 PM Central Standard Time,
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com writes:
> This was the very first instance I had heard of,
> magazines included, of anyone riding this new model. When I parked
> the BMW in my yard, I took a good long look at my KLR's bodywork, or
> what passes for bodywork. "Less-than-handsome" came to mind, as
> did "economically-challenged". "Flimsy" also came up. Still quite
> useful, however. I still love the old porker. It still runs
> perfectly after 25,000 hard miles, and many road trips.
>
Being completely honest, unbiased, and polite, I must disagree. There are
several ugly bikes out there, in my personal opinion. Take the BMW cruiser
for instance. That thing looks like an aborted Frankenstein monster, to me. I
find the Duke to be unattractive to my eyes, as well. There are several
others that I find distasteful on a personal level. That is why I say, it
takes all kinds to make the world go round. What is ugly to some, may be
attractive to others. Back when I rode a Suzuki GS1150E, many thought it was
ugly when compare to the FJ1200, the V-Max, and the Kawasaki Ninja.
Meanwhile, I thought my GS was gorgeous. So, what is ugly to one, may be
beauty to another. Yet, that does not invalidate anyone's personal opinion. I
still think the F650 is ugly. I looked at it, sat on it, walked around it,
for almost a half hour. I could not bring myself to appreciate its looks or
design. That is just my opinion.
Jim
Texas Thumpin
jeepwj01
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important news about balancer doohickey!!!!!
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 1:17 pm
by Tengai650
At 11:48 AM -0700 3/22/2002, Ryan Newman wrote:
>> > My guess is B. Maybe Jake can answer this.
>
>> Patience, please, boys and girls! Now preparing the first eight balancer
>> chain adjuster levers for the journey up to the heat treater in SLC
>
>I think he was just asking if the new ones were made from steel of aluminum.
>Ryan
They are machined from 4140 steel, unless he changed his mind.
Mark
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 1:28 pm
by Lujo Bauer
>
> >> Patience, please, boys and girls! Now preparing the first
> eight balancer
> >> chain adjuster levers for the journey up to the heat treater in SLC
> >
> >I think he was just asking if the new ones were made from steel
> of aluminum.
> >Ryan
>
> They are machined from 4140 steel, unless he changed his mind.
One doesn't heat treat aluminum, does one?
-Lujo
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