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nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:24 pm
by RM
--- Riley Harlton wrote:
> They can wheelie and do counter steer. I think he was joking.
Shafties cannot wheelie. The Coriolis Effect prevents this from occuring,
no matter how hard you try.
RM
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nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:49 pm
by Scott Adams
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me this is a troll?
From: "RM"
> --- Riley Harlton wrote:
>
> > They can wheelie and do counter steer. I think he was joking.
>
> Shafties cannot wheelie. The Coriolis Effect prevents this from occuring,
> no matter how hard you try.
>
> RM
nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:58 pm
by Dale Johnson
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., RM wrote:
> --- Riley Harlton wrote:
>
> > They can wheelie and do counter steer. I think he was joking.
>
> Shafties cannot wheelie. The Coriolis Effect prevents this from
occuring,
> no matter how hard you try.
--Snip
Question:
I was taught that the Coriolis force was not a real force, but a
fictitious one. The proof of this is found in the inability of the
Coriolis force to do any work.
Answer:
It is true that the Coriolis force does no work. Yet, the ability to
do work is not a prerequisite for a force. If the Coriolis force were
to be disqualified owing to its inability to do work, it would take a
number of other well established forces along with it into oblivion.
For example, a charged particle, such as an electron, moving in a
static magnetic field has no work done on it by that field even
though it experiences the magnetic force. Alas, a claim for the
fictitious nature of the Coriolis force based upon its inability to
do work is an ex post facto argument (one concocted to support a
position arrived at for different reasons).
nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 5:09 pm
by Kurt Simpson
The internet is full of shafties doing wheelies..so let's say it is a
troll...
Kurt
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me this is a troll?
From: "RM"
> --- Riley Harlton wrote:
>
> > They can wheelie and do counter steer. I think he was joking.
>
> Shafties cannot wheelie. The Coriolis Effect prevents this from
> occuring, no matter how hard you try.
>
> RM
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nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 6:55 pm
by Krgrife@aol.com
In a message dated 9/27/01 2:55:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
klr@... writes:
> --- Riley Harlton wrote:
>
> > They can wheelie and do counter steer. I think he was joking.
>
> Shafties cannot wheelie. The Coriolis Effect prevents this from occuring,
> no matter how hard you try. >>
Anyone who thinks shafties won't wheelie hasn't ridden a V-Max or a V-65
Sabre or Magna. And yes, I think this was a troll.
Kurt Grife
nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 8:29 pm
by RM
--- Scott Adams wrote:
>>Shafties cannot wheelie. The Coriolis Effect prevents this from
>>occuring, no matter how hard you try.
>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me this is a troll?
No, it's true! According to reeky, "the pole-dipole forces, coupled with
the inertial moment (which is uncancelled), make it impossible for shaft
drive bikes (even with horsepower approaching infinity) to wheelie."
Go do a Deja search!
RM
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nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 9:32 pm
by klx650dan@eatmydirt.com
Don't tell some of the Concours riders that..
>
> >>Shafties cannot wheelie.
nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 9:49 pm
by Ted Palmer
RM wrote:
> --- Riley Harlton wrote:
>
> > They can wheelie and do counter steer. I think he was joking.
>
> Shafties cannot wheelie. The Coriolis Effect prevents this from occuring,
> no matter how hard you try.
More often it is the Aureola Effect around the rider.
Mister_T
Meloburne Australia
nklr - shafties
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2001 10:02 pm
by Ted Palmer
Dale Johnson wrote:
[...]
> Question:
> I was taught that the Coriolis force was not a real force, but a
> fictitious one. The proof of this is found in the inability of the
> Coriolis force to do any work.
>
> Answer:
[...]
Much like the stock front brake on a KLR, Classical Newtonian
physics does have some limitations. It works, up to a point,
then you hang some extra bits on it.
Mister_T
Melbourne Australia
nklr messages-nklr
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2001 1:38 am
by Fred Williams
Y'Know the cb-750 list USED to say "the largest MC related list".
now it says "largest honda related".
Because I told them we had more multiple personality disorders here..
Fred
A15