Wilsons Sandbox

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2001 2:51 pm**

Ok, so I am carb challenged. Anyone have any pics, or detailed instructions on how to get to the pilot screw with the carb still mounted? Mine is out 3 1/2 turns, but I think it is too much. I want to try it at 2 1/2. How do you go about doing this, and is there any special tools needed? Thanks. Jeff A15

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2001 5:45 pm**

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., jayed36@y... wrote:

> Ok, so I am carb challenged. Anyone have any pics, or detailed > instructions on how to get to the pilot screw with the carb still > mounted? Mine is out 3 1/2 turns, but I think it is too much. I

want

> to try it at 2 1/2. How do you go about doing this, and is there

any

> special tools needed? > > Thanks. > > Jeff > A15

Your's is out 3 1/2 turns ? How do you know that ? Use a screw driver, screw all the way in, then out 2 1/2 turns.

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2001 7:05 pm**

if i remember correctly you can loosen up the carb mounts and spin it sideways. also i think i had to drill out some stuff (a cap covering the screw)? _pete (did this three years ago, and haven't got the data in retrievable memory)

> -----Original Message----- > From: jayed36@... [mailto:jayed36@...] > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:51 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Backing out the pilot screw > > > Ok, so I am carb challenged. Anyone have any pics, or detailed > instructions on how to get to the pilot screw with the carb still > mounted? Mine is out 3 1/2 turns, but I think it is too much. I want > to try it at 2 1/2. How do you go about doing this, and is there any > special tools needed? > > Thanks. > > Jeff > A15 > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >

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Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2001 7:07 pm**

Rumor: I hear that Fred will walk you through it over the phone. Dale

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Peter Dahlheimer, MD" wrote: > if i remember correctly you can loosen up the carb mounts and spin it > sideways. also i think i had to drill out some stuff (a cap covering the > screw)? > > _pete > (did this three years ago, and haven't got the data in retrievable memory) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jayed36@y... [mailto:jayed36@y...] > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:51 PM > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Backing out the pilot screw > > > > > > Ok, so I am carb challenged. Anyone have any pics, or detailed > > instructions on how to get to the pilot screw with the carb still > > mounted? Mine is out 3 1/2 turns, but I think it is too much. I want > > to try it at 2 1/2. How do you go about doing this, and is there any > > special tools needed? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Jeff > > A15 > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2001 8:54 pm**

Take the choke cable loose first or you will be buying the little collar that it snaps into on the carb for sure! Morgan

----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Johnson To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Backing out the pilot screw > Rumor: I hear that Fred will walk you through it over the phone. > > Dale > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Peter Dahlheimer, MD" wrote: > > if i remember correctly you can loosen up the carb mounts and spin > it > > sideways. also i think i had to drill out some stuff (a cap > covering the > > screw)? > > > > _pete > > (did this three years ago, and haven't got the data in retrievable > memory) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: jayed36@y... [mailto:jayed36@y...] > > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:51 PM > > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Backing out the pilot screw > > > > > > > > > Ok, so I am carb challenged. Anyone have any pics, or detailed > > > instructions on how to get to the pilot screw with the carb still > > > mounted? Mine is out 3 1/2 turns, but I think it is too much. I > want > > > to try it at 2 1/2. How do you go about doing this, and is there > any > > > special tools needed? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Jeff > > > A15 > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @... address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Posted: **Fri Aug 31, 2001 9:34 pm**

> Your's is out 3 1/2 turns ? How do you know that ? Use a screw > driver, screw all the way in, then out 2 1/2 turns.

I know it's 3 becuase the mechanic who installed the jetting told me that's what the instructions said to do... and he did it.

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2001 9:13 am**

jayed36@... wrote: [pilot screw adjustment]

> I know it's 3 becuase the mechanic who installed the jetting told > me that's what the instructions said to do... and he did it.

Hopefully the mecho didn't refit the plug on the access hole for the pilot screw. You could adjust the screw by the recommendations of number of turns out, but I believe that is only a starting point. The last time I set the mixture (some years ago) I adjusted it for highest consistent idle (aka "best idle" in trade talk). Consequently I don't know how many turns it is out in my bike. I may have may have made some minor adjustment after that, based on seat-of-the-pants sensors. Since I don't much altitude riding, this works fine for me. I've adjusted the pilot with the bike running by using a very small screwdriver with a 90deg bend on the end of it. I now have one of those fancy cable-drive 90deg screwdrivers to adjust the quad carbs on my 750 Honda but I have never got around to trying it out. The same kind of tool is used to adjust some car carbs where access is limited. It may be overkill for a KLR, but the tool will certainly earn its keep on the RC17 Honda. Mister_T Melbourne Australia

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2001 10:04 am**

Robert, You are absolutely correct! I used a little super glue, but should replace the collar. Now... Do you have to purchase the entire cable or do they sell just the collar. It looked as though the collar was captive to the cable, but perhaps not. Bob A15 --- Robert Morgan wrote:

> Take the choke cable loose first or you will be > buying the little collar > that it snaps into on the carb for sure! > Morgan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale Johnson > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:06 PM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Backing out the pilot > screw > > > > Rumor: I hear that Fred will walk you through it > over the phone. > > > > Dale > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Peter Dahlheimer, MD" > wrote: > > > if i remember correctly you can loosen up the > carb mounts and spin > > it > > > sideways. also i think i had to drill out some > stuff (a cap > > covering the > > > screw)? > > > > > > _pete > > > (did this three years ago, and haven't got the > data in retrievable > > memory) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: jayed36@y... [mailto:jayed36@y...] > > > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:51 PM > > > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Backing out the pilot > screw > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, so I am carb challenged. Anyone have any > pics, or detailed > > > > instructions on how to get to the pilot screw > with the carb still > > > > mounted? Mine is out 3 1/2 turns, but I think > it is too much. I > > want > > > > to try it at 2 1/2. How do you go about doing > this, and is there > > any > > > > special tools needed? > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > A15 > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2001 10:10 am**

The collar is available separately, it threads into the carb body, the cable snaps into it. I think it was 5 or 6 bucks from Kawasaki. Morgan

----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Lawrence To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: Backing out the pilot screw > Robert, > You are absolutely correct! I used a little super > glue, but should replace the collar. Now... Do you > have to purchase the entire cable or do they sell just > the collar. It looked as though the collar was > captive to the cable, but perhaps not. > > Bob > A15 > --- Robert Morgan > wrote: > > Take the choke cable loose first or you will be > > buying the little collar > > that it snaps into on the carb for sure! > > Morgan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dale Johnson > > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:06 PM > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Backing out the pilot > > screw > > > > > > > Rumor: I hear that Fred will walk you through it > > over the phone. > > > > > > Dale > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Peter Dahlheimer, MD" > > wrote: > > > > if i remember correctly you can loosen up the > > carb mounts and spin > > > it > > > > sideways. also i think i had to drill out some > > stuff (a cap > > > covering the > > > > screw)? > > > > > > > > _pete > > > > (did this three years ago, and haven't got the > > data in retrievable > > > memory) > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: jayed36@y... [mailto:jayed36@y...] > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:51 PM > > > > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Backing out the pilot > > screw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, so I am carb challenged. Anyone have any > > pics, or detailed > > > > > instructions on how to get to the pilot screw > > with the carb still > > > > > mounted? Mine is out 3 1/2 turns, but I think > > it is too much. I > > > want > > > > > to try it at 2 1/2. How do you go about doing > > this, and is there > > > any > > > > > special tools needed? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > A15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > > > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > > > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get your free @... address at > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Unsubscribe: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Be part of the Adventure! > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Posted: **Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:36 am**

Lumir, For me the most important thing that enables me to be comfortable on a bike over long periods is a seat that is wide enough to distribute your wieght over a larger area. It is not so much the foam density as the WIDTH. The stock seat was about 7" in width, too narrow for my fat ass. I have a Corbin now which is much wider, I think about 12" or so. The Corbin's foam is a little hard but the width makes it easy to do 500 mile dirt/road days comfortably. With the stock seat I was hurting at 100 miles. Steve

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., lmbakota@t... wrote: > On my last two day trip through Banf National Park, I have met a guy > from Quebec at Lake Louise gas station. He had a nicely sounding > and "well loaded" KLR 650 so I had a chat with him. It turned out he > was coming back from an Alaska trip and he has made about 16,000 kms > (10,000 miles) in three weeks and another probably 5,000 km ahead of > him. He had a 2001 KLR650, everything original except the Supertrap > IDS2 exhaust. He was on his second rear tire and just about ready to > replace it as well. Front tire was original and still in a good > shape. He had kind of an unique "hard bag", one of those large > plastic totes with a lid that you use for your dirty cloth. He had it > strapped up side down on the rear rack. He said he never had a single > problem with the bike except he lost his lights and I have noticed > quite a hole in his head light. Anyway, I felt quite ashamed with my > own 1,200 kms in two days ... > Lumir

Wilsons Sandbox

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seat width was - endurance on enduro