off-road accident... nklr

[RichardM]

Can it be mounted to flow lube properly? Is this thing acceptable for our bikes or not? RM

[cactus_reese@yahoo.com]

The way I mounted it (see files section), It takes two steps to get oil to the chain when riding street. 1) Squeeze bottle and ride to gas station. 2) Get off bike, fill with gas, and ride home. Chain is lubed. The problem is that there is not a constant downhill slope in the delivery tube when sitting on the bike, only when I'm off. Step one allows the oil to flow to the swing arm. Step 2 allows the oil to flow down the swing arm to the delivery fingers. If riding offroad on any kind of hills, don't worry, the oil will get to the chain. I would say it is acceptable, but not perfect. I could try to reroute the delivery tube and improve things, but I'm not bothered enough by the current way it works on my bike. There may be better oil than the 80 wt gear lube I use, but I've got so much of it (1 liter) that I probably won't get to try something else for 3 years. -Bryan A12

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "RichardM" wrote: > Can it be mounted to flow lube properly? Is this thing acceptable > for our bikes or not? > > RM

[Devon Jarvis]

I thought the whole point of an oiler, of any type, was that the chain received a constant flow of oil, never being allowed to run dry. I have my scottoiler mounted in the same place that you have the loobman, and I have no flow problems. The way you have it set up doesn't seem to benefit the chain any more than manually oiling the chain once in the morning. Have you thought about getting more hose, and mounting the loobman reservoir up inside the fairing, against the headlight backing plate? It will be at least 12-18" higher up, and the increased run of hose will drip oil on the chain for a much longer time. I am considering fitting my Scottoiler in the same place, because the flow rate changes as hot air from the radiator heats up and thins the oil. The only thing that concerns me is running a vacuum line all that way as well. You would not have this problem with the loobman, if I recall when I looked at their website you are encouraged to mount it near the clocks or another visible location. Devon A15 cactus_reese@... wrote:

> > The way I mounted it (see files section), It takes two steps to get > oil to the chain when riding street. 1) Squeeze bottle and ride to > gas station. 2) Get off bike, fill with gas, and ride home. Chain is > lubed. The problem is that there is not a constant downhill slope in > the delivery tube when sitting on the bike, only when I'm off. Step > one allows the oil to flow to the swing arm. Step 2 allows the oil to > flow down the swing arm to the delivery fingers. > > If riding offroad on any kind of hills, don't worry, the oil will get > to the chain. I would say it is acceptable, but not perfect. I > could try to reroute the delivery tube and improve things, but I'm > not bothered enough by the current way it works on my bike. There may > be better oil than the 80 wt gear lube I use, but I've got so much of > it (1 liter) that I probably won't get to try something else for 3 > years. > -Bryan > A12 > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "RichardM" wrote: > > Can it be mounted to flow lube properly? Is this thing acceptable > > for our bikes or not? > > > > RM > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[BGRDSHARK@aol.com]

Can you control the flow/amount of oil that these oilers produce so that you don't have excess oil on the rear of the bike to hold dirt? On another note: I just received a set of standard tank panniers from Rider wearhouse. Question: The bags cover the grates/vents on each side of the radiator shrouds. Seems that the purpose of the vents is to facilitate air exiting the radiator area while the bike is moving forward. If I adjust the bags back off the vents then my knees it the bags in the rear. Any suggestions? Bgrdshark '01 KLR [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[cactus_reese@yahoo.com]

Loobman is a manual chain oiler that works while you ride. Maybe you can call it semi-automatic. You squeeze the bottle and fill a small measured delivery reservoir which then gravity feeds to the chain. It simply makes it easy to oil your chain wherever you are without needing the rear tire off the ground or chasing the bike all over the yard with your oil can. You control the amount of oil by how much you squeeze into the delivery reservoir. Loobman recommends oiling the chain every 100-200 miles. You can easily get excess oil by squeezing too much or too often or by dumping your bike alot which results in oil flowing out of the squeeze bottle and into the delivery chamber. I have first hand experience with the latter. Loobman recommends that the delivery tube be as short as possible. Why? Because it is gravity fed and does not turn off when you stop the bike, only when all the oil you squoze into the delivery resevoir has flowed to the chain. With my setup, it takes 10-15 minutes to deliver the oil depending on the temperature. If you mount it near the instruments, you will need to wait that much longer for it all to drip out or you will need to park on a newspaper in your garage. At this point, I must concede, from the descriptions, that Scottoiler works better, but Loobman is only $25. Each must decide for themselves how they want to oil their chain. -Bryan A12

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., BGRDSHARK@a... wrote: > Can you control the flow/amount of oil that these oilers produce so that you > don't have excess oil on the rear of the bike to hold dirt? >

[RichardM]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., cactus_reese@y... wrote:

>The problem is that there is not a constant downhill slope in >the delivery tube when sitting on the bike, only when I'm off.

[snip] So the problem is that the oil pools at the low point in the tubing near the front of the swingarm? What happens if you stay off the bike too long? Do you get a puddle of oil on the ground?

[fixerdave@hotmail.com]

Bikes are hard to ride, if you get stupid on a mc in the dirt, you fall off; this tends to make the average biker more careful. Also, if you hit someone, odds are you will hurt just as much, if not more. These simple rules do not apply to 4-wheelers. A complete fool can get on and go way faster than they can stop and, if they hit little things, like a bike, they usually wind up on top. Why be careful? It's like the blonde joke: why are there no dumb brunettes? Answer -> peroxide. Any fool can go fast on a quad. This is not to say that there are no smart blondes, or good 4-wheelers, but circumstances shuffle things so their respective crowds get the majority of idiots. David... A4, Victoria BC Canada.

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., BGRDSHARK@a... wrote: > Just to confirm; > Do quad riders have a relationship to other off roaders, like jet ski(s) do > with safe boaters? > That is reckless, no brained, no control, no courtesy jerks? > > Just want to be clear, > > Bgrdshark > '01 KLR > '27 Newport sailboat > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]