Wilsons Sandbox

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Zachariah Mully wrote: > Hey all- > Over the past 5 days I have received over 1.5 GB of mail traffic > to my domain from one person with the invalid email address, > res088oc@v... who has been infected with the SirCam virus. I > contacted Verizon in the hope that they'd be able to find this person and > shut them down, but they were unhelpful to say the least. The email > address is invalid (something the abuse department at Verizon didn't > understand, hello? spam sound familiar?) so abuse@v... couldn't > help me ("no sir, we need a valid email address.." "I've got their IP > address, you just use that" "NO"), so I have had to take this into my own > hands. I opened up several of the documents that the virus emails off of > this persons drive and found that I must have had contact with this person > on about a KLR.... Here's what I've found so far: > > His name is Jeff Kopanke and he works for Dual-Star. > And he has no fucking clue what he's doing. > > You can be sure that the only ordering that I'll do in the future > with Dual-Star is to have them get FUCKING sysadmin who doesn't have their > head up their ass. I have a nice spreadsheet with plenty of names, > shipping information and other information I won't reveal here from > Dual-Star that the virus so nicely emailed me. Anyone want a copy? > This is the lack of respect and knowledge that continually pisses > me off about people in the e-commerce/internet world. If you don't know > how to secure it, then goddamn it HIRE someone to do it. It is everyones > worst nightmare to have their information stolen. > I have no problem with Dual-Star's business, but now I have a huge > problem with how they carry out their business. Fuck 'em... I am > certainely glad that I never ordered anything from them and that my > information isn't being emailed around the world to unknowns. > > Sorry I am so grouchy, but I hate having to deal with *other people's* > stupidity especially when it takes up 3 days of my time. > > Zack > > P.S. for all now concerned about their information, please be assured that > all copies of said documents sent to the domain smartbrief.com have been > and will be destroyed. I can't speak though for ever other place they were > sent.

> Ahhh yesss... The Micr*s*ft approach... Don't fix it ahead of

> someone else fix, test and secure it.... I know it well! > > Fletch > > > This is the lack of respect and knowledge that continually pisses > me off about people in the e-commerce/internet world. If you don't

> how to secure it, then goddamn it HIRE someone to do it. It is

> worst nightmare to have their information stolen.

> > The virus has nothing to do with E-commerce. It is email driven. He > probably sent a list to his home address,the virus found it in his > sent box, sent it out wuth the virus attached. > I'm not defending Dual Star, I'm just stating the facts. >

> -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Fletchall [mailto:pfsrep1@...] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:10 PM > To: Zachariah Mully; dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] NKLR: F*** DUAL-STAR > > > Ahhh yesss... The Micr*s*ft approach... Don't fix it ahead of > time... Let > someone else fix, test and secure it.... I know it well! > > Fletch >

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Zachariah Mully" wrote: > Squid- > > > > The virus has nothing to do with E-commerce. It is email driven. He > > probably sent a list to his home address,the virus found it in his > > sent box, sent it out wuth the virus attached. > > I'm not defending Dual Star, I'm just stating the facts. > > > > Ah, how misguided are your intentions.... Yes, I know it is an email > virus! Yes, I know that most people who have it are not aware of it and > when they do find out are horrified and try quickly to correct it! Yes, > it might have been sent from his home computer! > > BUT! > > Are you a business? Do you have sensitive information stored on your > computer(s)? Have you taken the necessary precautions to make sure that > access to that information is properly controlled? Do you email home > sensitive information? > > When you deal with a business online you are putting you trust in them > that they'll protect your sensitive and private data with any and all > means availible. That means proper virus protection, proper ACL's, > proper data backup and retrival methods. When a business has none of > these in place, or poorly implemented, it can be devastating to both the > customer and the business. > > I am abhorred at your laissez-faire attitude to this, it is attitudes > such as yours which let businesses buy and sell our personal, > confidental information like so much cattle... You may not care, but I > certainely do, and I do not tolerate this type of behavior from any > business, even MY own. If I had recieved your personal medical history > in an email sent by the virus, I am sure that you'd be singing a > different tune about security right about now... > > Do you get the jist of why I am so ticked of with the irresponisible > behavior of Dual-star (or better Jeff@DS)? > > Perhaps I spend too much time everyday protecting all my subscribers > personal, private information, so that they don't end up in someone's > email inbox. I dunno, am I doing a disservice to my subscribers? > > ------------------ > Zack > Banana Republic of Washington, DC > KLR650A5 "Buster" | KLR650A2 | ZG1000A1 | KZ440A2 | KX125G1 | 1966 Vespa > 125 > COG #4664

> -----Original Message----- > From: squidwannabe@... [mailto:squidwannabe@...] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:27 PM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR: F*** DUAL-STAR > > > Zach, > > I agree with you, but new viruses evolve everyday which one cannot > prepare fully for. > Not everyone has an mind like a computer whiz. Maybe dual star > outsourced there network setup in hopes it would be secure ? and some > ego driven MCSE know it all came in a hook everything up for him. > Even on a unix box a virus via email is still a threat. > > Adam Davis > > >

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Zachariah Mully" wrote: > Adam- > Still missing the point here... Are you not worried about your own > personal information that these companies have? That is my sole concern. > Why accept their excuse for sending your information to unknown parties? > Perhaps I am a little too wound up about this, but this is a place that > I was going to order from and a place that a lot of the listers *have* > ordered from. Privacy violations are only going to get worse and as it > would seem no one gives a flying f*** through a rolling donut about it > here. > > Just wait for the personal barcode to be tattoo to you forehead then > tell me what you think > > ------------------ > Zack > Banana Republic of Washington, DC > KLR650A5 "Buster" | KLR650A2 | ZG1000A1 | KZ440A2 | KX125G1 | 1966 Vespa > 125 > COG #4664 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: squidwannabe@h... [mailto:squidwannabe@h...] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:27 PM > > To: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR: F*** DUAL-STAR > > > > > > Zach, > > > > I agree with you, but new viruses evolve everyday which one cannot > > prepare fully for. > > Not everyone has an mind like a computer whiz. Maybe dual star > > outsourced there network setup in hopes it would be secure ? and some > > ego driven MCSE know it all came in a hook everything up for him. > > Even on a unix box a virus via email is still a threat. > > > > Adam Davis > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR: F*** DUAL-STAR > > I phoned in my order, so If my VISA / personal info is on their email > client, shit will hit the fan..... Ok I see your point. > > But on the other hand, you can now approach DS with a security > solution > > So this is what we learned , email clients are not secure > databases , virues are bad and French is cool. > > Francais pour tous ! > > Adam the Frenchie from Canada. >