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nklr - very klr
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2001 9:09 pm
by Harvy Mushman
Who wrote this?
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., mb h wrote:
> Seems to be very few REAL MOTORCYCLE riders here.
> You can't seem to get enough HP to pass a 73 Fiat, You
> get all nervous braking on anything but drained
> tarmac, you can't reach the ground, It's too heavy to
> pick up on the downhill side, It vibrates and shakes
> stuff loose, real pipes are too loud, I'm scared to
> ues the front brake. Mom can't run along and hold my
> hand after 3rd. gear. My hands get all tingly because
> it's a thumper...Should I inject pig snot into the
> bars? and what is the latest raingear that I should
> wear??? I weigh 350 lbs and I'm 5'7"??? (buy a f'kn
> umbrella and stay home)
> You Pssy's should stay home and type about your whiney
> situation while the RIDERS go off and ride.
> Sorry to make you sound like a bunch of puh's.
> Brent
> Ride safe, Ride sane, Ride fast.
nklr - very klr
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2001 11:11 pm
by Dan Oaks
Not sure, but I think it was my ex-wife using a pseudonym.
--
bierdo
Harvy Mushman wrote:
> Who wrote this?
>
> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., mb h wrote:
> > Seems to be very few REAL MOTORCYCLE riders here.
> > You can't seem to get enough HP to pass a 73 Fiat, You
> > get all nervous braking on anything but drained
> > tarmac, you can't reach the ground, It's too heavy to
> > pick up on the downhill side, It vibrates and shakes
> > stuff loose, real pipes are too loud, I'm scared to
> > ues the front brake. Mom can't run along and hold my
> > hand after 3rd. gear. My hands get all tingly because
> > it's a thumper...Should I inject pig snot into the
> > bars? and what is the latest raingear that I should
> > wear??? I weigh 350 lbs and I'm 5'7"??? (buy a f'kn
> > umbrella and stay home)
> > You Pssy's should stay home and type about your whiney
> > situation while the RIDERS go off and ride.
> > Sorry to make you sound like a bunch of puh's.
> > Brent
> > Ride safe, Ride sane, Ride fast.
>
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nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 12:44 pm
by tismybutt@yahoo.com
I don't know, but I almost have to agree with some points. Except
the rain gear, I do have a 10 year old suit. I ride my bike to work
come hell or high water 02APR to 31OCT year in and year out. The only
thing that will keep me in my cage is a snow/ice storm. I do have a
70 mile round trip commute. I am not afraid of the cold (come on up
and visit on a sub-zero Feb. weekend when were out riding Lake
Winnebago), just the other drivers on the road seem to lose all
common sense once the water freezes.
I've only been on this board for a coupla months and it seems like
all people do is piss and moan or call each other an idiot for
wanting to change something on your bike. What the hell you want to
change your pipe for, that other thing is too loud! Loud? How about a
4-1 Kerker with a 2.5 inch Competition exhaust 0n a 1200 cc air
cooled Kaw 70 miles a day for 6 years. That's loud. Makes the open
pipe harleys mild by comparison.
No, a lot of times I truly don't care what other people think of me
and my bike. I'm not riding it for them.
My front brake sucks, it doesn't stop me from riding. I had the back
end in the air the last stop I had stop hard.
My 01 wags it's head every so often. I just stand on the pegs a bit
and it goes away.
Seems bunch of people bought these things expecting a couch with
knobbies. You didn't get one. Quit whining and deal with it.
Hopefully I pissed off all the pansies, will the real riders please
stand up?
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote:
> Not sure, but I think it was my ex-wife using a pseudonym.
> --
> bierdo
>
> Harvy Mushman wrote:
>
> > Who wrote this?
> >
> > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., mb h wrote:
> > > Seems to be very few REAL MOTORCYCLE riders here.
> > > You can't seem to get enough HP to pass a 73 Fiat, You
> > > get all nervous braking on anything but drained
> > > tarmac, you can't reach the ground, It's too heavy to
> > > pick up on the downhill side, It vibrates and shakes
> > > stuff loose, real pipes are too loud, I'm scared to
> > > ues the front brake. Mom can't run along and hold my
> > > hand after 3rd. gear. My hands get all tingly because
> > > it's a thumper...Should I inject pig snot into the
> > > bars? and what is the latest raingear that I should
> > > wear??? I weigh 350 lbs and I'm 5'7"??? (buy a f'kn
> > > umbrella and stay home)
> > > You Pssy's should stay home and type about your whiney
> > > situation while the RIDERS go off and ride.
> > > Sorry to make you sound like a bunch of puh's.
> > > Brent
> > > Ride safe, Ride sane, Ride fast.
> >
> > Visit the KLR650 archives at
> >
http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650
> >
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> --
> Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President
> Formtech Services, Inc.
>
> the stable:
> '01 XT225 - '01 KLR650 - '99 DR650
> '82 XL250R - '78 TC90 - '77 GS550
> '91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart
> 2 bad dogs and a sled
>
> Wanted:
> TLR200
>
> Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies
> formtech@f...
> bierdo@m...
>
http://www.formtechservices.com
>
> Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts
> bierdo@d...
>
http://www.dirtly.com
>
> 2970 Robins Nest Ct.
> Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA
> 800 522-6257
> 407 957-7887 (fax)
nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 1:06 pm
by Zachariah Mully
>
> Hopefully I pissed off all the pansies, will the real riders please
> stand up?
>
>
JEEZUS! I thought my girlfriend was the only one to get this pissy at
the end of the month...
Some of you mofo's need to take a breather. Remember that membership on
this list isn't required. If you don't like the general atmosphere on
the list, then please leave, no one is going to stop you. So quit being
hateful and go for a ride. Or find some other list to harass cause you
won't find too many other lists like this one.
In other, more constructive news, anyone know how our future P/D
contestant, Dat Brooklyn Bum, did in this weekends Rattlesnake enduro? I
know that he was riding the KTM this weekend. Hopefully he's still
planning on riding the KLR in the AlCan.
------------------
Zack
Banana Republic of Washington, DC
KLR650A5 "Buster" | KLR650A2 | ZG1000A1 | KZ440A2 | KX125G1 | 1966 Vespa
125
COG #4664
nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 1:25 pm
by Tengai650
At 2:00 PM -0400 7/23/01, Zachariah Mully wrote:
> In other, more constructive news, anyone know how our future P/D
>contestant, Dat Brooklyn Bum, did in this weekends Rattlesnake enduro? I
>know that he was riding the KTM this weekend. Hopefully he's still
>planning on riding the KLR in the AlCan.
I dunno. I was supposed to meet him there to cheer him on with
Kirsty, but I had a front tire puncture at 75mph on I-99 in Altoona
Friday morning. I got home from the hospital after a 9 hr visit...I'm
a real mess and can't walk or even get out of bed to crap without
assistance for at least a week, maybe two. Big laceration all the way
into my knee joint requiring 24 stitches along with a deep puncture
in my other leg and other boo-boos.
At least I can still use my PowerBook....the extra time on my hands
will allow me to catch up on my internet porn in between passing out.
Mark
B2
A2
A3
nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 1:25 pm
by Rich Kickbush
Err, you're aware the last dickhead got nuked for dissing everyone?
Using the unsub function is a lot quicker if you just want to get off the
list...
My 2c - The KLR is a very old design. People aren't moaning, they're just
asking if there are fixes or improvements available - and there are. If the
KLR was great stock, there wouldn't be the huge aftermarket that exists.
Everyone has their own needs and wants, some want the best braking they can
get etc. The fun of a KLR is you can custom it however you want, and the
base bike is dirt cheap.
If you're happy with it, fine. But don't lay some macho bullshit trip on
people who want to improve things. Fuck, if everyone had your attitude,
we'd still be rubbing sticks together to make fire.
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR - Re: VERY KLR
>
> I don't know, but I almost have to agree with some points. Except
> the rain gear, I do have a 10 year old suit. I ride my bike to work
> come hell or high water 02APR to 31OCT year in and year out. The only
> thing that will keep me in my cage is a snow/ice storm. I do have a
> 70 mile round trip commute. I am not afraid of the cold (come on up
> and visit on a sub-zero Feb. weekend when were out riding Lake
> Winnebago), just the other drivers on the road seem to lose all
> common sense once the water freezes.
>
> I've only been on this board for a coupla months and it seems like
> all people do is piss and moan or call each other an idiot for
> wanting to change something on your bike. What the hell you want to
> change your pipe for, that other thing is too loud! Loud? How about a
> 4-1 Kerker with a 2.5 inch Competition exhaust 0n a 1200 cc air
> cooled Kaw 70 miles a day for 6 years. That's loud. Makes the open
> pipe harleys mild by comparison.
>
> No, a lot of times I truly don't care what other people think of me
> and my bike. I'm not riding it for them.
>
> My front brake sucks, it doesn't stop me from riding. I had the back
> end in the air the last stop I had stop hard.
>
> My 01 wags it's head every so often. I just stand on the pegs a bit
> and it goes away.
>
> Seems bunch of people bought these things expecting a couch with
> knobbies. You didn't get one. Quit whining and deal with it.
>
>
>
> Hopefully I pissed off all the pansies, will the real riders please
> stand up?
>
>
> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote:
> > Not sure, but I think it was my ex-wife using a pseudonym.
> > --
> > bierdo
> >
> > Harvy Mushman wrote:
> >
> > > Who wrote this?
> > >
> > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., mb h wrote:
> > > > Seems to be very few REAL MOTORCYCLE riders here.
> > > > You can't seem to get enough HP to pass a 73 Fiat, You
> > > > get all nervous braking on anything but drained
> > > > tarmac, you can't reach the ground, It's too heavy to
> > > > pick up on the downhill side, It vibrates and shakes
> > > > stuff loose, real pipes are too loud, I'm scared to
> > > > ues the front brake. Mom can't run along and hold my
> > > > hand after 3rd. gear. My hands get all tingly because
> > > > it's a thumper...Should I inject pig snot into the
> > > > bars? and what is the latest raingear that I should
> > > > wear??? I weigh 350 lbs and I'm 5'7"??? (buy a f'kn
> > > > umbrella and stay home)
> > > > You Pssy's should stay home and type about your whiney
> > > > situation while the RIDERS go off and ride.
> > > > Sorry to make you sound like a bunch of puh's.
> > > > Brent
> > > > Ride safe, Ride sane, Ride fast.
> > >
> > > Visit the KLR650 archives at
> > >
http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650
> > >
> > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y...
> > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y...
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> > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y...
> > >
> > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at:
> > >
http://www.dualsportnews.com
> > >
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>
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> >
> > --
> > Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President
> > Formtech Services, Inc.
> >
> > the stable:
> > '01 XT225 - '01 KLR650 - '99 DR650
> > '82 XL250R - '78 TC90 - '77 GS550
> > '91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart
> > 2 bad dogs and a sled
> >
> > Wanted:
> > TLR200
> >
> > Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies
> > formtech@f...
> > bierdo@m...
> >
http://www.formtechservices.com
> >
> > Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts
> > bierdo@d...
> >
http://www.dirtly.com
> >
> > 2970 Robins Nest Ct.
> > Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA
> > 800 522-6257
> > 407 957-7887 (fax)
>
>
> Visit the KLR650 archives at
>
http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650
>
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nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 1:29 pm
by Zachariah Mully
Damn this has been a bad week! First Punky and now Mark! Anyone else
out there get hurt that we haven't heard about?
Really good to hear that you're okay and obviously still have use of
your mental facilities as well as your hands

Care to share the
details of the event for the rest of us to learn from?
Get well... May the morphine be with you.
------------------
Zack
Banana Republic of Washington, DC
KLR650A5 "Buster" | KLR650A2 | ZG1000A1 | KZ440A2 | KX125G1 | 1966 Vespa
125
COG #4664
> I dunno. I was supposed to meet him there to cheer him on with
> Kirsty, but I had a front tire puncture at 75mph on I-99 in Altoona
> Friday morning. I got home from the hospital after a 9 hr visit...I'm
> a real mess and can't walk or even get out of bed to crap without
> assistance for at least a week, maybe two. Big laceration all the way
> into my knee joint requiring 24 stitches along with a deep puncture
> in my other leg and other boo-boos.
> At least I can still use my PowerBook....the extra time on my hands
> will allow me to catch up on my internet porn in between passing out.
> Mark
> B2
> A2
> A3
>
nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 1:59 pm
by Tengai650
At 2:27 PM -0400 7/23/01, Zachariah Mully wrote:
> Really good to hear that you're okay and obviously still have use of
>your mental facilities as well as your hands

Care to share the
>details of the event for the rest of us to learn from?
Thanks Zack. Ya, here's what I've learned:
1) Use SLIME. This happened on the only bike I have that didn't have
slime. This would NOT have happened if I had slime in the tire. Fuck
the stupid "unsprung weight" conjecture.
2) My full-face helmet prevented my face from looking like Quasimoto's.
3) I wish I had a lightweight armor jacket like a Hein Gericke
Taureg. I'm glad I was wearing more than a T-shirt though.
4) I normally wear knee pads, but in my haste to get going, I
completely forgot. I going to make a trip checklist now.
5) I'm glad I had good hiking boots and moto gloves on. They
self-destructed, but they saved me.
6) The KLR does amazingly well in a slide.
Basically, the front end started getting uncharacteristically
squirrelly (even though it was gusty that day). I looked at the tire
and noticed that it was half-way to flat and going down fast. I tried
to bleed off the speed and get to the right, but within about 3-4
seconds, the tire was completely flat and the bead broke. It was as
if I had a banana peel for a tire and the bike was uncontrollable. It
began to oscillate with increasing amplitude. I knew I was going to
crash, I just didn't want to go down and subsequently get run over by
a truck, so I was able to at least make it to the right and
successfully low-side it. I was still doing 68mph when I hit the
pavement. The bike slid nicely and did a 180; I slid and rolled about
15 yards on pavement until I shot out under the guard rail into a
ravine. Traffic was moderate and several people stopped immediately
to help and the ambulance was on the scene in about 6 minutes.
Mark
B2
A2
A3
nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 7:18 pm
by Dan Oaks
Rich Kickbush wrote:
> . . . if everyone had your attitude,
> we'd still be rubbing sticks together to make fire.
>
> Rich
>
-------------
I think that's what he was doing.
--
bierdo
nklr - very klr
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 7:39 pm
by Dan Oaks
Holy shit, Mark! Your helpful writeup may keep some of us a little safer.
Thanks!
Keep your toby lit!
--
bierdo
Tengai650 wrote:
> At 2:27 PM -0400 7/23/01, Zachariah Mully wrote:
> > Really good to hear that you're okay and obviously still have use of
> >your mental facilities as well as your hands

Care to share the
> >details of the event for the rest of us to learn from?
>
> Thanks Zack. Ya, here's what I've learned:
>
> 1) Use SLIME. This happened on the only bike I have that didn't have
> slime. This would NOT have happened if I had slime in the tire. Fuck
> the stupid "unsprung weight" conjecture.
> 2) My full-face helmet prevented my face from looking like Quasimoto's.
> 3) I wish I had a lightweight armor jacket like a Hein Gericke
> Taureg. I'm glad I was wearing more than a T-shirt though.
> 4) I normally wear knee pads, but in my haste to get going, I
> completely forgot. I going to make a trip checklist now.
> 5) I'm glad I had good hiking boots and moto gloves on. They
> self-destructed, but they saved me.
> 6) The KLR does amazingly well in a slide.
>
> Basically, the front end started getting uncharacteristically
> squirrelly (even though it was gusty that day). I looked at the tire
> and noticed that it was half-way to flat and going down fast. I tried
> to bleed off the speed and get to the right, but within about 3-4
> seconds, the tire was completely flat and the bead broke. It was as
> if I had a banana peel for a tire and the bike was uncontrollable. It
> began to oscillate with increasing amplitude. I knew I was going to
> crash, I just didn't want to go down and subsequently get run over by
> a truck, so I was able to at least make it to the right and
> successfully low-side it. I was still doing 68mph when I hit the
> pavement. The bike slid nicely and did a 180; I slid and rolled about
> 15 yards on pavement until I shot out under the guard rail into a
> ravine. Traffic was moderate and several people stopped immediately
> to help and the ambulance was on the scene in about 6 minutes.
> Mark
> B2
> A2
> A3
>