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members vs active listers
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2001 12:24 am
by Jsherlockholmz@aol.com
Has anyone else noticed that we are supposed to have 1482 members in
our group, yet we hear from probably less than 100 members in the
daily writing. What's up with this? Do we actually have 1300 people
just listening in? I just thought the numbers looked curious and
wondered if anyone else noticed this, or If I missed the boat to a
new location. Mentally, well, that ship left a long time ago, but I
thought I was pretty up on what is currently being talked about. Have
we perhaps lost that many active members? Could the day to day
discussions have become such dull and predictable rederick, that we
actually lost that many members? Waaaaaaaas suppp listers? Are we
here or are we not?
Jim Sherlock
Austin, Texas
members vs active listers
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2001 10:38 am
by Susan Moorhead
Jim,
The old 80/20 rule again, ha! 80% of the discussions by 20% of the list.
Happens in a lot of things in life. Just my .02 worth.
Marshall in Afton, Ok
'95 KLXC3 "Blackhorse" (in honor of those who served)
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Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 12:23 AM
Subject: [DSN_klr650] Members vs Active Listers
> Has anyone else noticed that we are supposed to have 1482 members in
> our group, yet we hear from probably less than 100 members in the
> daily writing. What's up with this? Do we actually have 1300 people
> just listening in? I just thought the numbers looked curious and
> wondered if anyone else noticed this, or If I missed the boat to a
> new location. Mentally, well, that ship left a long time ago, but I
> thought I was pretty up on what is currently being talked about. Have
> we perhaps lost that many active members? Could the day to day
> discussions have become such dull and predictable rederick, that we
> actually lost that many members? Waaaaaaaas suppp listers? Are we
> here or are we not?
>
> Jim Sherlock
> Austin, Texas
>
members vs active listers
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2001 11:08 am
by Dreas Nielsen
As a not-very-active lister, I can give you one perspective. I ordinarily
delete 90-95% of the list e-mail unread because it is mostly just social
chatter. I don't ride to socialize, and I don't subscribe to the list to
socialize. If I think I can contribute something to the list, I'll post a
message or send one directly to another lister; these occasions are rare
because a) in 14 years of riding a KLR I've hardly had any problems worth
mentioning, and b) I don't tinker with and customize my bike just for the
fun of it. In addition, very occasionally I'll post a wise-ass comment
mostly for my own amusement.
Your reference to "daily writing" carries a subtle implication that all list
members should post every day, or at least very frequently. I don't agree,
of course. In fact, if any large fraction of the 1400+ members posted every
day, and the posts were of the same nature as most of those we have now, the
volume of message traffic would be unbearable, and I'd be out of here.
Dreas Nielsen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jsherlockholmz@... [mailto:Jsherlockholmz@...]
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 10:24 PM
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DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DSN_klr650] Members vs Active Listers
>
>
> Has anyone else noticed that we are supposed to have 1482 members in
> our group, yet we hear from probably less than 100 members in the
> daily writing. What's up with this? Do we actually have 1300 people
> just listening in? I just thought the numbers looked curious and
> wondered if anyone else noticed this, or If I missed the boat to a
> new location. Mentally, well, that ship left a long time ago, but I
> thought I was pretty up on what is currently being talked about. Have
> we perhaps lost that many active members? Could the day to day
> discussions have become such dull and predictable rederick, that we
> actually lost that many members? Waaaaaaaas suppp listers? Are we
> here or are we not?
>
> Jim Sherlock
> Austin, Texas
>
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members vs active listers
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2001 11:09 am
by timbennett@uswest.net
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Jsherlockholmz@a... wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that we are supposed to have 1482 members
in
> our group, yet we hear from probably less than 100 members in the
> daily writing. What's up with this? Do we actually have 1300 people
> just listening in? I just thought the numbers looked curious and
> wondered if anyone else noticed this, or If I missed the boat to a
> new location. Mentally, well, that ship left a long time ago, but I
> thought I was pretty up on what is currently being talked about.
Have
> we perhaps lost that many active members? Could the day to day
> discussions have become such dull and predictable rederick, that we
> actually lost that many members? Waaaaaaaas suppp listers? Are we
> here or are we not?
>
> Jim Sherlock
> Austin, Texas
kind of like life, only a hanful make the most noise
tim
members vs active listers
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2001 11:14 pm
by Dan Oaks
For Christ's sake, don't wake 'em up!
--
bierdo
Jsherlockholmz@... wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that we are supposed to have 1482 members in
> our group, yet we hear from probably less than 100 members in the
> daily writing. What's up with this? Do we actually have 1300 people
> just listening in? I just thought the numbers looked curious and
> wondered if anyone else noticed this, or If I missed the boat to a
> new location. Mentally, well, that ship left a long time ago, but I
> thought I was pretty up on what is currently being talked about. Have
> we perhaps lost that many active members? Could the day to day
> discussions have become such dull and predictable rederick, that we
> actually lost that many members? Waaaaaaaas suppp listers? Are we
> here or are we not?
>
> Jim Sherlock
> Austin, Texas
>
--
Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President
Formtech Services, Inc.
the stable:
'01 XT225 - '01 KLR650 - '99 DR650
'82 XL250R - '78 TC90 - '77 GS550
'91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart
2 bad dogs and a sled
Wanted:
TLR200
Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies
formtech@...
bierdo@...
http://www.formtechservices.com
Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts
bierdo@...
http://www.dirtly.com
2970 Robins Nest Ct.
Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA
800 522-6257
407 957-7887 (fax)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
members vs active listers
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 3:32 pm
by Charles MacKarness
...huh
...uh, whats that noise?
...never mind, back to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote:
> For Christ's sake, don't wake 'em up!
> --
> bierdo
>
> Jsherlockholmz@a... wrote:
>
> > Has anyone else noticed that we are supposed to have 1482 members
in
> > our group, yet we hear from probably less than 100 members in the
> > daily writing. What's up with this? Do we actually have 1300
people
> > just listening in? I just thought the numbers looked curious and
> > wondered if anyone else noticed this, or If I missed the boat to a
> > new location. Mentally, well, that ship left a long time ago, but
I
> > thought I was pretty up on what is currently being talked about.
Have
> > we perhaps lost that many active members? Could the day to day
> > discussions have become such dull and predictable rederick, that
we
> > actually lost that many members? Waaaaaaaas suppp listers? Are
we
> > here or are we not?
> >
> > Jim Sherlock
> > Austin, Texas
> >
>
> --
> Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President
> Formtech Services, Inc.
>
> the stable:
> '01 XT225 - '01 KLR650 - '99 DR650
> '82 XL250R - '78 TC90 - '77 GS550
> '91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart
> 2 bad dogs and a sled
>
> Wanted:
> TLR200
>
> Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies
> formtech@f...
> bierdo@m...
>
http://www.formtechservices.com
>
> Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts
> bierdo@d...
>
http://www.dirtly.com
>
> 2970 Robins Nest Ct.
> Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA
> 800 522-6257
> 407 957-7887 (fax)
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
members vs active listers
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 4:51 pm
by jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com
Hey all,
I don't know if I get counted or not as I have the list bookmarked and
look up the messages daily as opposed to getting them sent to me, but
out of all the messages posted every day, it does often seem that less
than 20% are actually useful/informative etc. as opposed to, for
example, the message that I am directly responding to right now (not to
start anything...). There are simply too many messages to wade through
daily. Unless the title specifically mentions something of interest, I
don't bother even opening the message. I tend to look at the list as a
way of gaining knowledge to remember at a later (when needed) date. At
this point I am not able to contribute much info having had my '96 less
than a year, but I know the info I am gleaning will come in handy on
occasion. But yes, it sure would be easier/more manageable if a lot of
the random comments didn't get posted. For example, I also belong to
the Audi S-Car List, it gets maybe 30-40 posts on an average day and in
the last year some of the more technically inclined folk have set up a
separate more technical list as they got fed up with irrelevant pissing
contests etc. This is a bummer as a lot of general knowledge/help was
lost to the original list and I now have to check both lists to see
everything (but in the end don't get as amny answers to to the more
mundane issues as the original list doesn't have as much knowledge and
the new one is REALLY technically oriented and doesn't tolerate the
more mundane stuff).
Just my .02
Jim
96 KLR
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Charles MacKarness" wrote:
> ...huh
> ...uh, whats that noise?
> ...never mind, back to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
>
> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Dan Oaks wrote:
> > For Christ's sake, don't wake 'em up!
> > --
> > bierdo
> >
> > Jsherlockholmz@a... wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone else noticed that we are supposed to have 1482 members
> in
> > > our group, yet we hear from probably less than 100 members in the
> > > daily writing. What's up with this? Do we actually have 1300
> people
> > > just listening in? I just thought the numbers looked curious and
> > > wondered if anyone else noticed this, or If I missed the boat to a
> > > new location. Mentally, well, that ship left a long time ago, but
> I
> > > thought I was pretty up on what is currently being talked about.
> Have
> > > we perhaps lost that many active members? Could the day to day
> > > discussions have become such dull and predictable rederick, that
> we
> > > actually lost that many members? Waaaaaaaas suppp listers? Are
> we
> > > here or are we not?
> > >
> > > Jim Sherlock
> > > Austin, Texas
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Dan (BIERDO) Oaks, President
> > Formtech Services, Inc.
> >
> > the stable:
> > '01 XT225 - '01 KLR650 - '99 DR650
> > '82 XL250R - '78 TC90 - '77 GS550
> > '91 Yammy 4 stroke golf cart
> > 2 bad dogs and a sled
> >
> > Wanted:
> > TLR200
> >
> > Mfr. of Printing Equipment & Supplies
> > formtech@f...
> > bierdo@m...
> >
http://www.formtechservices.com
> >
> > Mfr. of 4x4 POLY Motorcycle Parts
> > bierdo@d...
> >
http://www.dirtly.com
> >
> > 2970 Robins Nest Ct.
> > Saint Cloud, FL 34772-8182 USA
> > 800 522-6257
> > 407 957-7887 (fax)
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
sliding on pavement!
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2001 6:01 pm
by Alan L Henderson
>ravine. Traffic was moderate and several people stopped immediately
>to help and the ambulance was on the scene in about 6 minutes.
>Mark
>B2
>A2
>A3
Jeez! Hope your feeling better soon! Alan Henderson A13 Iowa