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I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80-90, but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This have anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as new as they are? Jeff

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is designed > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the brakes > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my grip on the > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how fast the > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > Devon > A15 > 78 SR500 > 81 SR500

> I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80-90, > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This have > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as new > as they are? > > Jeff

It will stop after you get past the 4000 rpm break in period. Make sure all the bearing are tight and try not to change the aerodynamics (turn your head, move your right foot up to the brake, etc) of the bike/passengers while riding over 140 mph (9980rpm). Harry Thames South Carolina

My KLR smooths right out when it hits 145mph!!! jayed36@... wrote:

> I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80-90, > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This have > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as new > as they are? > > Jeff > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is designed > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > brakes > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my grip > on the > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how > fast the > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > Devon > > A15 > > 78 SR500 > > 81 SR500 > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

There have been many an varied responses as an answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links in the rear. With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability of the front end is at its height........ Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe to be the best overall klr handling. Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived a speculated best klr handling period*[*When in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. Many who've gone to the lowering links have reported this phenomenally improved klr handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" lowering links are said to allow the rear tire bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there have been less(if any) reports of this. People either totally love, or totally hate the links..... Peace Slide jayed36@... wrote:

> I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80-90, > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This have > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as new > as they are? > > Jeff > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is designed > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > brakes > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my grip > on the > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how > fast the > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > Devon > > A15 > > 78 SR500 > > 81 SR500 > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

90 mph is over the 4000 rpm range

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Harry Thames" wrote: > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- 90, > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This have > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as new > > as they are? > > > > Jeff > > It will stop after you get past the 4000 rpm break in period. > > Make sure all the bearing are tight and try not to change the aerodynamics > (turn your head, move your right foot up to the brake, etc) of the > bike/passengers while riding over 140 mph (9980rpm). > > Harry Thames > South Carolina

True. It *is* over the 4K rpm period. However, after scouring the area for a trustworthy mechanic for the bike, I found a very competent and knowledgeable one. He worked for Kawasaki for 10 years (recommended to me by other bike shop owners) before bringing up his own shop. At any rate, he suggested it is better to vary the rpm's (up to 6k) during the break in period. (Take it *up* to 6K, but don't cruise like that for extended periods.) I went 350 miles staying at 4K. If the valves and rings, etc aren't seated by now, they'll never be seated. I suspect the 4K limit is recommended for the same reason that most of these bikes can only be started in neutral with the clutch disengaged - for the novice rider who doesn't have a friggin clue. With a proper warm-up, and an initial break-in period at low rpm's, easing into 6K is reasonable. I don't plan on 90 being my cruising speed... it was just time to say - hellllloooooo. Felt damn good. Although not a lot of throttle left upwards of 90. Maybe a slant 6 mod is in order. J

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., thesquasher@h... wrote: > 90 mph is over the 4000 rpm range > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Harry Thames" wrote: > > > > > > > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- > 90, > > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This > have > > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as > new > > > as they are? > > > > > > Jeff > > > > It will stop after you get past the 4000 rpm break in period. > > > > Make sure all the bearing are tight and try not to change the > aerodynamics > > (turn your head, move your right foot up to the brake, etc) of the > > bike/passengers while riding over 140 mph (9980rpm). > > > > Harry Thames > > South Carolina

What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? Unbelivable. -----Original Message----- From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@...] Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 To: jayed36@... Cc: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? There have been many an varied responses as an answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links in the rear. With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability of the front end is at its height........ Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe to be the best overall klr handling. Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived a speculated best klr handling period*[*When in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. Many who've gone to the lowering links have reported this phenomenally improved klr handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" lowering links are said to allow the rear tire bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there have been less(if any) reports of this. People either totally love, or totally hate the links..... Peace Slide jayed36@... wrote:

> I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80-90, > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This have > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as new > as they are? > > Jeff > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is designed > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > brakes > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my grip > on the > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how > fast the > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > Devon > > A15 > > 78 SR500 > > 81 SR500 > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

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Great big dirt bikes that act like a parachute in a windstorm! That's what kind of bikes! If you don't like it, countersteer. I have to agree with the breakin, I kept mine under4k for the first 300 miles. Then a good hard flog through the woods. Now THAT varies the rpm! There are going to be a lot of people who will vehemently disagree with that. I have torn down at least a thousand engines and have seen the effects of varied rpm vs extended breakins vs flogging right off the bat. Guess what? The differences could only be measured in ten thousandths of a mm. The is after 1500 hour runs on load stands. I checked leakdown at 1500 miles on my 01 and came up with 3% at tdc. My rings are seated, my valves are seated, and with 1700 miles on as of this morning, I still get the weave. I find if I get totally out of the wind, way down behind the shield, the weave goes away. I have been up to an indicated 110mph (closed course, professional rider, don't try this at home) without the weave. Now, if I pissed anyone off, good! My mission is done! If I have enlightened anyone, better, I have furthered my mission! Brett --- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Claes Borovac" wrote: > What kind of bike weaves when it is stock and almost new? Unbelivable. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tobin Slide Lampson [mailto:jazranch@j...] > Sent: 28 June 2001 03:49 > To: jayed36@y... > Cc: DSN_klr650@y... > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: High speed weave? > > > There have been many an varied responses as an > answer to this- from obtaining a lower profile front > fender, to changing tire air pressure, to lowering the > triple tree on the forks........even using lowering links > in the rear. > > With the stock klr....and the triple tree being flush > at the top of the forks.....this wobble/weave/instability > of the front end is at its height........ > > Personally by leaving the front forks flush with the > top of the triple tree and lowering the rear of the bike > (via smaller O.D. rear tire) I've found what I believe > to be the best overall klr handling. > > Going farther I installed a set of aftermarket > fork extension caps(expensive) and acheived > a speculated best klr handling period*[*When > in tandem with fork caps/lesser o.d. rear tire]. > > Many who've gone to the lowering links have > reported this phenomenally improved klr > handling. Yet, the conventional.....1 1/2" > lowering links are said to allow the rear tire > bottom out.....with 1" lowering links there > have been less(if any) reports of this. > People either totally love, or totally hate > the links..... > > Peace > Slide > > > jayed36@y... wrote: > > > I noticed on my A15 today that I get a weave going up around 80- 90, > > but no braking involved (it's almost uncontrollable at 90). > > Everything is stock at the moment and only 350 miles on it. This have > > anything to do with the aerodymanics, or maybe the tires being as new > > as they are? > > > > Jeff > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > Not a complaint really since it's not exactly what a KLR is designed > > > for, but has anyone else experienced a weave when applying the > > brakes > > > around 100mph? I have a K-9 fork braceand progressive springs. > > > > > > It's pretty mild, and seems to get better if I can loosen my grip > > on the > > > bars (hard to do when braking). The thing that amazes me is how > > fast the > > > KLR hits 105 when I lay on the tank and hit the gas. > > > > > > Devon > > > A15 > > > 78 SR500 > > > 81 SR500 > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@y... > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@y... > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@y... > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@y... > > Support Dual Sport News by subscribing at: > http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/