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Posted: Mon May 14, 2001 8:18 pm
by Dan Oaks
U.S. Supreme Court ruled (unanimously) on Monday that California
cannabis clubs may not legally distribute
marijuana as a "medical necessity" for seriously ill patients.
While I have never used marijuana, nor do I intend to use it, nor do I
believe in breaking a law because I feel it's wrong; I hope all these
people live to regret this decision. I have seen my friends die of
cancer and chemical therapy, and had they asked me for marijuana or a
gun, I fear for my very soul, for I would have supplied them, as I would
hope someone would me.
If it is right to condemn a person to a painful and horrid death because
of some psuedo-Christian ethic that says treatment with deadly poisonous
chemicals is ok, keep them in a stupor with morphine so we don't have to
listen to their cries is fine, but you say relief from that torture by
use of a natural basically harmless substance is immoral and illegal; so
you make it illegal to gain access. You have placed many law abiding
Americans in a position of deciding which is more important. Right or
law. And since both are based upon opinions, when the chips are down,
yours doesn't count. I say I hope you get a chance to find out about
this first hand for yourselves. You have earned that right. And when you
get to hell, mention my name, you'll get a good seat.
Just my fucking opinion.
--
bierdo
On a Mac warmed up in Hell.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2001 8:26 pm
by rob
Right on!!!!
Dan Oaks wrote:
> U.S. Supreme Court ruled (unanimously) on Monday that California
> cannabis clubs may not legally distribute
> marijuana as a "medical necessity" for seriously ill patients.
>
> While I have never used marijuana, nor do I intend to use it, nor do I
> believe in breaking a law because I feel it's wrong; I hope all these
> people live to regret this decision. I have seen my friends die of
> cancer and chemical therapy, and had they asked me for marijuana or a
> gun, I fear for my very soul, for I would have supplied them, as I would
> hope someone would me.
>
> If it is right to condemn a person to a painful and horrid death because
> of some psuedo-Christian ethic that says treatment with deadly poisonous
> chemicals is ok, keep them in a stupor with morphine so we don't have to
> listen to their cries is fine, but you say relief from that torture by
> use of a natural basically harmless substance is immoral and illegal; so
> you make it illegal to gain access. You have placed many law abiding
> Americans in a position of deciding which is more important. Right or
> law. And since both are based upon opinions, when the chips are down,
> yours doesn't count. I say I hope you get a chance to find out about
> this first hand for yourselves. You have earned that right. And when you
> get to hell, mention my name, you'll get a good seat.
>
> Just my fucking opinion.
>
> --
> bierdo
> On a Mac warmed up in Hell.
>
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2001 8:50 pm
by Don Dotson
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2001 9:16 pm
by monahanwb@yahoo.com
What them 'publicans in the guvmint don't tell you is that the stuff
is good for you.
That's why it costs so much.
Truss me , I are a docter.
B. Wm. Monahan, Ph. D.
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2001 10:31 pm
by racing43rd@aol.com
Well said Dan!
Ed
Windsor
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 12:21 am
by gyb@sprynet.com
Bierdo:
> U.S. Supreme Court ruled (unanimously) on Monday that California
> cannabis clubs may not legally distribute
> marijuana as a "medical necessity" for seriously ill patients.
> If it is right to condemn a person to a painful and horrid death because
> of some psuedo-Christian ethic that says treatment with deadly poisonous
> chemicals is ok, keep them in a stupor with morphine so we don't have to
> listen to their cries is fine, but you say relief from that torture by
> use of a natural basically harmless substance is immoral and illegal; so
> you make it illegal to gain access. You have placed many law abiding
> Americans in a position of deciding which is more important. Right or
> law. And since both are based upon opinions, when the chips are down,
> yours doesn't count. I say I hope you get a chance to find out about
> this first hand for yourselves. You have earned that right. And when you
> get to hell, mention my name, you'll get a good seat.
You better reserve lots of seats, because it's not really the Supremes
fault, they only have to interpret the law (as it conveniently suits their
biases, of course). You need to reserve more like 535 seats, to fit all
our honorable members of the House. In an era when it seems that
most of them are of the right age to have experimented with drugs in
the 60's (many of which have admitted to it already, under pressure
from the press), it seems a little hypocritical of them to now say that
anybody who uses drugs, for recreation or medicinal purposes, needs
to spend quality time in one of our model "reform" facilities. Make
that 537 seats. We wouldn't want to leave out our previous and
current presidents, both having admitted to having experience with
drugs.
Or maybe it's our fault, because, well, we elected them...
See you in Hell,
Gustavo
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 1:56 am
by Stuart Mumford
"Laws are made for the guidance of wise men and the strict obedience of
fools."
Thus spake dear old Dad.
CA Stu A13
Riverside CA
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 2:17 am
by Mark Wilson
Campaign contributions do not come from something you can grow in your
backyard!
Money talks in Washington, and the big drug companies would be shit outta
luck if it were legalized.
MM
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Oaks
To: KLR Group DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:18 PM
Subject: [DSN_klr650] No Medical Marijuana NKLR
> U.S. Supreme Court ruled (unanimously) on Monday that California
> cannabis clubs may not legally distribute
> marijuana as a "medical necessity" for seriously ill patients.
>
> While I have never used marijuana, nor do I intend to use it, nor do I
> believe in breaking a law because I feel it's wrong; I hope all these
> people live to regret this decision. I have seen my friends die of
> cancer and chemical therapy, and had they asked me for marijuana or a
> gun, I fear for my very soul, for I would have supplied them, as I would
> hope someone would me.
>
> If it is right to condemn a person to a painful and horrid death because
> of some psuedo-Christian ethic that says treatment with deadly poisonous
> chemicals is ok, keep them in a stupor with morphine so we don't have to
> listen to their cries is fine, but you say relief from that torture by
> use of a natural basically harmless substance is immoral and illegal; so
> you make it illegal to gain access. You have placed many law abiding
> Americans in a position of deciding which is more important. Right or
> law. And since both are based upon opinions, when the chips are down,
> yours doesn't count. I say I hope you get a chance to find out about
> this first hand for yourselves. You have earned that right. And when you
> get to hell, mention my name, you'll get a good seat.
>
>
> Just my fucking opinion.
>
> --
> bierdo
> On a Mac warmed up in Hell.
no medical marijuana nklr
Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 5:23 am
by Joe Smith
> Campaign contributions do not come from something you can grow in your
> backyard!
> Money talks in Washington, and the big drug companies would be shit outta
> luck if it were legalized.
Not necessarily. In doing a project for a class in nursing school a
couple of years ago it became fairly obvious that people assume the
legalization of marijuana for medical use would mean that people would
simply continue buying street drugs with no guarantee as to their content or
purity. Legalization for medical purposes could mean the growing and
processing of 'medicinal grade' marijuana as well which would simply mean a
new market for drug companies. My hope then, as it is now, would be that
people would get past the stigma of this drug and treat it as you would any
other medication, one with intended effects, side effects and potential for
abuse.
Unfortunately, as we were doing this Oregon was in the process of
passing a medical marijuana initiative which addressed the allowing of
people to use marijuana but not where it was supposed to come from, in other
words, there is still no legal source of the drug. What I learned from this
is that there are many competing interests in the issue of legalization, one
of which is a substantial group of people who are using the medical issue as
a way of gaining a foothold towards larger scale legalization for
recreational use. I have no real problem with people wanting to legalize
the stuff for recreational use but this tactic tends to make the medicinal
issue something of a political football and, in my opinion at least, makes
the societal acceptance of marijuana for medical use far more difficult to
obtain.
Joe Smith, RN
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2001 7:06 am
by fireball@heaslet.com
--- In DSN_klr650@y..., "Mark Wilson" wrote:
> Money talks in Washington, and the big drug companies would be shit
outta
> luck if it were legalized.
There's bigger news. Some experts say that, despite $80 million
given to congressional campaigns by pharmaceutical companies last
year, government-controlled drug pricing is likely to happen, meaning
that the private profit structures of pharmas are endangered.
The publicized black market we see now is just the tip of the
iceberg. For example, AIDS drugs in the US run between $7,000-15,000
per year, while the same drugs cost between $350 and $1,000 in
Brazil, India and a growing number of other regions (Caribbean
included).
The drug companies were hoping to recoup 'research costs' in the US
and Europe. It isn't likely to happen without a bunch of nighttime
low-level aircraft flying across the border at the same time.
Fireball