digest number 915

[Rebecca Jackson]

George, Happy Birthday and good health. Enjoy. Eric Jackson Ferndale MI

----- Original Message ----- From: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Digest Number 915 > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: What bikes to own (NKLR) > From: ddetloff@... > 2. Re: Moto-Grrrrls NKLR > From: "Harry Thames" > 3. Re: Ride > From: cccp7@... > 4. Re: What does future hold for KLR? > From: InWoods13@... > 5. Re: NKLR Concourse > From: Ted Palmer > 6. Re: Headlight on/off switch > From: "Steve Anderson" > 7. Re: TAT > From: aches@... > 8. RE: Rolling your own...you gotta see this! > From: "Karl Raupp" > 9. Re: Trials on Speedvision, > From: Ted Palmer > 10. Re: nklr Dakar > From: garagedoor79@... > 11. 7 Dragons across Asia > From: "Ric Merry" > 12. fuel leak > From: "gtx" > 13. Re: Re: TransAmTrail > From: punkynsquirt@... > 14. Re: Re: TAT > From: "Fred Hink" > 15. RE:nklr dakar > From: Ralph Hanson > 16. NKLR: Skabs - preglued patches > From: DEHAGER@... > 17. RE: fuel tanks > From: "Kurt Simpson \(Dual Sport News\)" > 18. Re: US Gas NKLR > From: Ted Palmer > 19. Re: US Gas > From: Ted Palmer > 20. [Fwd: Re: fuel leak] > From: "Robert W. Hearns" > 21. Re: NKLR: Skabs - preglued patches > From: "Fred Hink" > 22. NKLR Concours "Connie" > From: joseph hart > 23. Re: V>NKLR US Gas > From: Ted Palmer > 24. Re: fuel leak > From: Ted Palmer > 25. NKLR - NKLR . . . a birthday > From: George Basinet > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:19:49 -0000 > From: ddetloff@... > Subject: Re: What bikes to own (NKLR) > > One thing I forgot to add. When I mentioned that quite a few Harleys > wave, it seems to be the old bikers that wave. The yuppies are only > out there because all their yuppie friends have Harleys so they have > to have one too. If you aren't on one, they will never wave, but if > you look real close, you might be able to see them looking down their > noses at the others on "lesser" machines. > > Don Detloff > Fair Haven, MI A14 > > --- In DSN_klr650@y..., ddetloff@a... wrote: > > I wave at all bikes. Something I learned from my Dad when I started > > riding 35 years ago. BTW, Dad's first of many bikes was back around > > 1925. He was still riding a 600 Yamaha into his mid 70's. > > > > I actually get quite a few waves back from the Harleys. The ones > > that hardly ever wave back are the crotch rockets. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:04:32 -0500 > From: "Harry Thames" > Subject: Re: Moto-Grrrrls NKLR > > Makes me wonder if she was once a he. > > Harry Thames > South Carolina > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:10:01 -0000 > From: cccp7@... > Subject: Re: Ride > > Bike is in pieces. Got the wrong part from the dealer. It's 25 > degrees. Alternator is busted on my cage. > But money can fix those things. > > Life is wonderful. > Unlike my neighboor, I don't have to fight cancer. > > Enjoy every day... > > Raz > > >Yesterday . . . 65 degrees in Central Florida, 75 miles on the > > KLR. > > Life is good again! > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:11:14 EST > From: InWoods13@... > Subject: Re: What does future hold for KLR? > > In a message dated 1/25/01 2:19:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, BCSavWill@... > writes: > > we > have been around some tight trails. Fallen of a few times but always smile > about it. We believe its a good starter dual sport. Maybe the Sherpa if you > want an e-start. >> > > Took a look at a 2001 KLR250 this week. New color scheme works good with > it, (neat looking little bike) & you get the proven design. > Would bet that the KLR's cheaper than the Sherpa too. All best > > Scott (kind of misses the kick start ritual) > A14 "thunderdog" > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:14:54 +1100 > From: Ted Palmer > Subject: Re: NKLR Concourse > > Brad Davis wrote: > [...] > > I recently just > > figured out that a Connie is a Concourse (right?). > > Yah, and in some countries they are a GTR1000. > > Mister_T > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:44:44 -0700 > From: "Steve Anderson" > Subject: Re: Headlight on/off switch > > From: > > > > > > > > Any guidance for where in the headlight wiring to mount an on/off > > switch? > > Thanks--Charles > > > > > > > The way it is wired in countries where they still have them is essentially > in series with the lighting (10A) fuse. This will turn off the headlight, > tail (not brake) light, and instrument lighting. Works great. I also have > a brake light cut off switch in series with the brake light wired for > complete "stealth"... > > Some others just wire it in series with the headlight; a teeny bit easier, > but then it doesn't shut off the other lamps. > > > > Steve A. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:49:21 -0600 > From: aches@... > Subject: Re: TAT > > Yes, I've read a bit about the TAT, have done the Arkansas segment, have > the maps and roll charts for the Colorado seg. But, have not had the > time to do it yet. > > Russell Fisher did a good report on it last summer. I was hoping to > meet him and do the Colorado segment but work conditions didn't allow > it. Below is his web site and the ride report he did on it. > > http://www.adventure-motorcycling.com/transam/old1transam.htm > > -- > Best Regards & Happy Trails > Andy Chesley @ 57 and ticking > in Jennings in SW Louisiana > Y2KLR650 @ 8+K sMiles > 97 R11RA (Amiga) @ 16+K sMiles > So Many Roads, So Little Time > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:26:27 -0500 > From: "Karl Raupp" > Subject: RE: Rolling your own...you gotta see this! > > This was just posted to the Ontario Dual Sport Clubs' maillist. At one of > the rides last year some guy brought a homemade dual sport! The concensus > is it's a Fazer. It definitely looks the part; > > http://www.geocities.com/ahopup/Whatisthis.html > > I kow nothing more about it than the pics, and was not on this ride. > > Enjoy! > Karl > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:12:47 +1100 > From: Ted Palmer > Subject: Re: Trials on Speedvision, > > Peter Berghs wrote: > > > WooHoo, Speedvision is showing some Trials riding tonight. I can't > > believe what these guys con make a bike do. > > The indoor trials I have on vid are the Sheffield Indoor Trials. > Great value, and don't think you can't get hurt in Trials. > Just hope you get to see some demos by bicycle trials riders, they > make the motorised guys look like pansies. > > > I wonder what they could do on a KLR? > > About as much as they could with a walrus in a wheelbarrow, > be kind of funny to watch either way. > > Mister_T > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:25:56 -0000 > From: garagedoor79@... > Subject: Re: nklr Dakar > > > She has a particular weakness > > for the Truck division! > > As do I! There is something about watching the giants bounce around > in slo-mo that I can't resist. > > > I vote Schlessher off the > > desert! > > For what? Starting the stage ahead of the Mitsu driver and taking a > penalty? I agree what he did was unsportsman-like, but all he did > was exploit a loophole in the rules. The FIA shouldn't of penalized > Schlesser the hour, but changed their rules for next time! Realize > that Schlesser was penalized a total of two or three (correct me if > I'm wrong) hours over the coarse of the rally but only lost the Dakar > by minutes. He was his own worst enemy. > > There is not a race team in the world that doesn't scutinize the > rules and make the most of them. F1 has opened the field up to > traction control since they couldn't prove teams were using it > illegally. I remember watching a Richard Petty interview a few years > back and a comment he said will stick with me forever. He said - > "The REAL racing starts once the rulebook shows up". Everybody is > looking for an edge. > > FWIW > Karl > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:38:25 -0800 > From: "Ric Merry" > Subject: 7 Dragons across Asia > > Looking forward to meeting some of you at tonight's Redmond show and tell. > > Ric Merry > Western gateway to the North Cascades > 97ZG1K2LR650A7 > www.concours.org/ric/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:52:54 -0000 > From: "gtx" > Subject: fuel leak > > I've got a 85 klr600,problem is the bike keeps draining the tank,there are no holes in the tank and it does this with the fuel valve in the off position. > Petrol sometimes leaks from the carb drain \overflow,but what i cant understand is how can the bike empty a tank of gas with it being turned off, > also i adjusted the float height before xmas,i've stripped out the float valve 3times in the last week,to check for a bit of grit or crud blocking the float valve but nothing. > If anyone has had a similar problem,or thinks they might know whats causeing please mail me,i used to have long hair but in the last week have pulled most of it out your'es expectantly Gary > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:44:10 EST > From: punkynsquirt@... > Subject: Re: Re: TransAmTrail > > Hi Andy: I have read Sam Correro's and Russell Fisher's reports/articles. I > am currently communicating with both of them. I am looking for a rider who > would like to join me riding the TransAmTrail from Nashville to Moab in May > 2001. From Moab, I will be heading north into Canada/Alaska. Sam is going to > furnish me with a not too technical route appropriate for a geezer who hasn't > ridden in 25 years and has damn little offroad experience. Sam, if you know > of someone who would like to join me, please let me know. Thanks. > > Lew Waterman > Punky & Lew's Americas Motopaseo > Greenacres, Florida > A-14 "Critter" > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:50:06 -0800 > From: "Fred Hink" > Subject: Re: Re: TAT > > The same basic report and better pictures can be found at: > http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/russell/july2000.shtml > I was privileged to meet Russell and help him on his way during this adventure. It is a real treat to reread his story about crossing the USA on the backroads that most of us will never see. > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > '00 VFR800FI > '00 XR650R > (2)'94 XR650L 4 sale > '94 XR250L 4 sale (300 mi) > '78 Z1-R 4 sale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: aches@... > To: KLR List > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:49 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: TAT > > > Yes, I've read a bit about the TAT, have done the Arkansas segment, have > the maps and roll charts for the Colorado seg. But, have not had the > time to do it yet. > > Russell Fisher did a good report on it last summer. I was hoping to > meet him and do the Colorado segment but work conditions didn't allow > it. Below is his web site and the ride report he did on it. > > http://www.adventure-motorcycling.com/transam/old1transam.htm > > -- > Best Regards & Happy Trails > Andy Chesley @ 57 and ticking > in Jennings in SW Louisiana > Y2KLR650 @ 8+K sMiles > 97 R11RA (Amiga) @ 16+K sMiles > So Many Roads, So Little Time > > > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:08:26 -0500 > From: Ralph Hanson > Subject: RE:nklr dakar > > > Stu wrote: > > >Leave him in a room with Masuoka and Maimon for an hour. Did you see Maimon > >wig out after they stopped the Mitsubishi? Stand in the course in front of a > >speeding buggy and not move? What a psycho! He was PISSED!!! and rightly so. > >I mean what a cheating bastard Schlesser is. In my neighborhood, we call his > >type nasty names. I expel gas in his general direction! > >CA Stu > > > > > > I have never seen anyone as angry as Maimon! If there is anything to > national temperament, Masuoka and Maimon showed it. Masuoka was tight > lipped, holding it all in, and Maimon had enough passion for both of them. > Personally, I think the ultimate penalty for the Schlesser would be for > Klienschmidt to look him in the eye and say "Nanny, nanny, boo, boo! Your > ex driver beat you with only a semi-factory ride!" > > Ralph > > Ralph E. Hanson > rhanson40@... > 99 KRL 650 > http://www.wvu.edu/~journal2 > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:20:27 -0000 > From: DEHAGER@... > Subject: NKLR: Skabs - preglued patches > > Anyone tried the preglued patches? I would like to reduce some of the > crap that I carry and this looked interesting. My only concern is the > shelf life of the patches(glue). They are only $2.50 for a pack of > five and I would not have to worry about that tube of glue ... you > know, that tube that we never check and when you go to use it it's all > dried up! > > Dana E Hager > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:28:13 -0700 > From: "Kurt Simpson \(Dual Sport News\)" > Subject: RE: fuel tanks > > IMS makes the U.S. Marine Corps version at 6.6 gallons... > > -----Original Message----- > From: limespiders@... [mailto:limespiders@...] > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:27 AM > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_klr650] fuel tanks > > > thanks everyone for the help on my last question, > > does anyone know where one could find a replacement/larger fuel tank > (preferably plastic, to keep the weight down) for the KLR650A-12 and > or the KLX650R? i have checked with acerbis but does not have, or > large enough, something to increase its overland ability; maybe around > 30l. would be nice. > > thank you, > ed. > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:28:34 +1100 > From: Ted Palmer > Subject: Re: US Gas NKLR > > Dan Oaks wrote: > [...] > > Believe it or not, Ausies call their beer piss, and they've never even tasted > > Bud. > > We get imported beers here too, y'know. > I've drank Bud out of curiosity, but I cant remember if I actually > tasted something. > > An aussie brewery made some beer labelled "Duff" for a short time until > vexatious copyright lawyers earned their living. > That beer is now a collectors' item and I have a couple of cans > stashed away, maybe I could get about $100 a can. > I heard there is a new brand appropriately called "Piss", and the light > version is called "Piss Weak". > I haven't found any in the shops yet but I'm still looking. > I suspect "Piss" will have some collector value. > > Mister_T > "I come from the land Down Under..." > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:38:41 +1100 > From: Ted Palmer > Subject: Re: US Gas > > Steve Anderson wrote: > [...] > > Be very careful when throwing out octane numbers, there are more different > > ways to measure and express "octane" than gallons. > > I believe the "Research" method is almost universal these days. > "Motor" octane numbers sound more relevent but the design of the > knock test motor is hardly current. > > > For example aviation 100 > > low-lead in the states has about the same "octane" as American 88, and about > > three times as much lead as auto fuel ever had in the states! > > Ah yes, 100LL. I used to put that through my KLR when I visited a > parachute club occasionally. > The avgas sure made the KLR smell nice on choke. > > Mister_T > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:42:47 -0600 > From: "Robert W. Hearns" > Subject: [Fwd: Re: fuel leak] > > Gary, > > I had the same problem on my Duck, but it was with Keihin flatslides. > The difference is mine drained into the cylinder ...which would have > been bad had I hit the starter. Turned out to be the needle and seat > assy. Definitely a float type problem. I can't help any further as I > do not yet have my KLR, so I don't know much about what carb is on > there. > > Robert > > > I've got a 85 klr600,problem is the bike keeps draining the tank,there > > are no holes in the tank and it does this with the fuel valve in the > > off position. > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:46:48 -0800 > From: "Fred Hink" > Subject: Re: NKLR: Skabs - preglued patches > > Skabs work good for a quick fix. They won't hold as well as a glued on patch and shouldn't be considered a permanent repair. They are easy to use and convenient to carry. I wouldn't air up a tube out of the tire with a scab, as I believe the tire helps hold the patch on. Make sure you are running plenty of tire air pressure if you use the Skabs. > > Fred > www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > '00 VFR800FI > '00 XR650R > (2)'94 XR650L 4 sale > '94 XR250L 4 sale (300 mi) > '78 Z1-R 4 sale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DEHAGER@... > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 8:20 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR: Skabs - preglued patches > > > Anyone tried the preglued patches? I would like to reduce some of the > crap that I carry and this looked interesting. My only concern is the > shelf life of the patches(glue). They are only $2.50 for a pack of > five and I would not have to worry about that tube of glue ... you > know, that tube that we never check and when you go to use it it's all > dried up! > > Dana E Hager > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > [This message contained attachments] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 22 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:55:30 -0600 > From: joseph hart > Subject: NKLR Concours "Connie" > > Brad, > > I've owned a Concours for about 5 years now...have riden the bike from > Illinois to Nova Scotia, as well as other long hauls. I agree with > previous responses that the vibration thing is definitely over-rated, > although there may be some isolated cases. I'am 5'8" and a couple of first > mods. I made were to install the storz handlebar conversion (stock > form-long reach to bars, provides for more upright seating position) along > with gen-mar risers and also gen-mar lowering kit for the footpegs. My > only complaints are the bike being a bit top heavy (notice at low speeds) > and also can be a warm ride (dependant on humidity) when ambient temp. gets > above 85 to 90 degrees. I've considered replacing it at times...but the > bottom line is...after a few years the bike grows on you and its hard to > sell it. > > Also I believe there are some aftermarket deflector's available, which > mount to the lower fairing on each side of the gas tank which help with hot > weather riding. > > Take care, > > Joe > 95 Connie 36K > A13-KLR 4.5K > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 23 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 03:51:38 +1100 > From: Ted Palmer > Subject: Re: V>NKLR US Gas > > BCSavWill@... wrote: > > > Is your petrol octane RON or MON or avareaged like here in the USA? > > RON, AFAIK. > > > US anti knock Index 87 = RON 91 octane, just another set of different > > tons/tonnes/short ton/long ton etc. (BG) > > Well, there you go, you guys burn cats piss as well. > > > Here is a thought (derived from aviation). The colder fuel is the more > > pounds > > you get per gallon and as the engine burns a fuel density ratio you > > should > > get better range with colder fuel as you can get more fuel in the tank > > > > density wise !!!!??????. > > Chilled fuel churns weren't unknown in car endurance racing years > ago. > > [...] > > On a 747-200 the difference in max fuel is 318,000 lbs at 6.17 to > > 371,200 lbs > > at 7.1 which equates to about 2 hrs flying. > > That is a worthwhile difference. > > > I expect in a KLR maybe 1/2 mile difference (LALROF). > > Maybe a bit more if the underside of the KLR tank is insulated. > > Mister_T > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 24 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:06:45 +1100 > From: Ted Palmer > Subject: Re: fuel leak > > gtx wrote: > > > > I've got a 85 klr600,problem is the bike keeps draining the tank,there > > are no holes in the tank and it does this with the fuel valve in the > > off position. > [...] > > Considering the 600s had non-locking fuel caps, I would not discount > external factors. > > Mister_T > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 25 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:12:32 -0800 > From: George Basinet > Subject: NKLR - NKLR . . . a birthday > > Listers, > > Today is my 70th birthday. This isn't anything special to anyone but > me and it wasn't hard to do, just live long enough. This morning made > realize just how lucky I am. Great health, three good children, all > grown. A nice wife for some 40 odd years. Alice would say some years > were odder than others. She gave me a tank bag from Fred, who said it > was full of Viagra. He lied! > > All this including a KLR650 and a BMW K100RS. I have never had a bad > ride, although some have been better than others. Only two accidents, > one in 1948 another in Moab last year. My bikes all did the job they > were suppose to do. > > I guess I wanted to say that my birthday wish for all of you is that I > hope you are as happy with your life when you are 70 as I am. > > I'd go for a ride today to celebrate but it is raining. > Oh hell, I guess I am getting old. > > George > Escondido, CA > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > >