Wilsons Sandbox

Chris, I don't mind people expressing opinions, political or otherwise, on any subject that relates to dual-sport riding. But when you begin making personal attacks against fellow listers because you disagree with them, it invalidates many of your good points you made prior to your personal diatribe. Its this sort of thing that I agree should be keep off the list, not opinions, but personal attacks. Russell DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] RE: enviro debate NKLR Dear Stuart Mumford, (and all listmembers) I didn't know an opinion was something you had to : A: Test to get a license for. (Which involves) 1. A skills test performed on the motorcycle. 2. A written test, to show you can do more than simply ride the thing. 3. An eye examination, to show your sight is good enough to warrant being on the road. 4. Having the motorcycle properly insured, as to protect yourself and others from mishaps. OK now people, here's where I take what's known as a CURVE. Some folks get lost on this concept, so hold on! While I showed the basic licensure procedures for many people (Add in taking the MSF Basic Rider Course if you're in the military) I'm gonna show the reason I consider riding a motorcycle to be a privilege, rather than a right. While it is our "right" as citizens to ride a motorcycle, it only is if we went through the steps I outlined in "A". I don't think there will be any real disagreement on the general statements I made, though there will probably be some debate on the actual steps involved due to local ordinance. Now what if your "right" were taken away? I don't mean those "liberal-bleeding-heart-draft-dodging-nasties that wanna keep me off public land". I'm talking about the irresponsible motorcyclist who does something to get his ability to ride a motorcycle (a privilege, not a right as he soon finds out) taken away from him. Whether it be an alcohol related incident, or reckless driving, what our hypothetical motorcyclist, "Stew" now finds out, is that his "right" to ride a motorcycle is not a right at all. It was a privilege all along. So kiddies (and those adults who get so wrapped up in being huffy when it comes to land-issues that they make asinine statements about "on THIS list, Info = Good, Opinions = Bad", knowing full well that if they have been on this list any length of time, people are so sick of attitudes based on personal feeling, that there is a list made just for the bitching, whining, "Ed Anger" on 2-wheels) I think I just showed how riding a motorcycle (in a society that puts limits on how we ride, as well as who gets to ride). I hope this is good "info", wouldn't want to get some cyber-person I'll never even see angry at me, to the point where they might hurl digital insults because I made a point they didn't seem to like. Insult away folks, but please direct it to: bmgecko@... chrisastier@... Or if you really want to get into intelligent debate and discussion, as opposed to being a real internet idiot, try writing me, or dropping by: 1111 Puerto Rico Ave. Apt. 3 Alamogordo, NM 88310 Cheers, Chris "Knows a goddamned fact from a hole in the ground" Astier

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Mumford" To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> > Chris, that is your opinion and I respect that. Let me restate what I meant > by my previous post; > On THIS list > Info = Good > Opinions = Bad > > CA Stu >It's not a right, it's a privilege. > > >Chris Astier Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com