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discovery trail

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2000 7:42 pm
by Tom Myers
>Recently you had a post about the discovery trail. >I'm planning an early summer trip next year and am >working on the logistics. >I'd like to get your opinion on some issues. >Is the trail okay for loaded KLR's and riders with >minimal trail experience? We have two experienced off-road >riders and one guy with some forest road experience only. >(All mid 50 age)
It's 100% two-track roads (no singletrack trail). There's lots of variation in the 1000 miles. 90% would be fine for loaded KLRs. The other 10% is OK for experienced off-road riders. By the end of the trip all three will have experience! The KLR is probably the perfect motorcycle for the OBDR. I think it would be difficult on a twin. You want knobby tires, I think roadie tires would be 'tiring' on the many miles of loose gravel, and worse in the sand.
>Did you purchase/utilize the set of maps($60.00) available? >I also use an Emap(and your RAM mount).
I did not purchase the map set. However two of us dumped five hours each into transcribing the map from a CD-rom (that's 10 man-hours). We would have come out ahead by purchasing the $60 map set (but it wasn't available in time for our departure date), and in addition we'd have the hardcopy maps. Think of it as $10/day (definitely buy the maps). Also, the money goes to support the OOHVA, a worthy cause.
>What is the acessibility to civilization(gas/food) along the trail?
Lots of accessibility to little towns. You should be OK with the KLR's range.
>I would appreciate any comments.
I intend to continue to put more info on the website (http://www.cycoactive.com/obdr) to help others plan their OBDR trip. Tom -- +---------------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products | 701 34th Ave | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | | Design/Manufacture of Motorcycling Accessories | Products website: http://www.cycoactive.com/mc | e-mail: moto@... | tel (206) 323-2349 fax (206) 325-6016 | trail tips website: http://www.cycoactive.com/mc/trail_tips +---------------------------------------------+

discovery trail

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2000 8:54 pm
by Russell Scott
If the BLM ruins the Moab rally, this Discovery trail sounds like an excellent alternative for a large scale assualt by the K.O.R.G. Russel'r DSN_klr650@egroups.com; tim.booth@... Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: Discovery Trail
>Recently you had a post about the discovery trail. >I'm planning an early summer trip next year and am >working on the logistics. >I'd like to get your opinion on some issues. >Is the trail okay for loaded KLR's and riders with >minimal trail experience? We have two experienced off-road >riders and one guy with some forest road experience only. >(All mid 50 age)
It's 100% two-track roads (no singletrack trail). There's lots of variation in the 1000 miles. 90% would be fine for loaded KLRs. The other 10% is OK for experienced off-road riders. By the end of the trip all three will have experience! The KLR is probably the perfect motorcycle for the OBDR. I think it would be difficult on a twin. You want knobby tires, I think roadie tires would be 'tiring' on the many miles of loose gravel, and worse in the sand.
>Did you purchase/utilize the set of maps($60.00) available? >I also use an Emap(and your RAM mount).
I did not purchase the map set. However two of us dumped five hours each into transcribing the map from a CD-rom (that's 10 man-hours). We would have come out ahead by purchasing the $60 map set (but it wasn't available in time for our departure date), and in addition we'd have the hardcopy maps. Think of it as $10/day (definitely buy the maps). Also, the money goes to support the OOHVA, a worthy cause.
>What is the acessibility to civilization(gas/food) along the trail?
Lots of accessibility to little towns. You should be OK with the KLR's range.
>I would appreciate any comments.
I intend to continue to put more info on the website (http://www.cycoactive.com/obdr) to help others plan their OBDR trip. Tom -- +---------------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products | 701 34th Ave | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | | Design/Manufacture of Motorcycling Accessories | Products website: http://www.cycoactive.com/mc | e-mail: moto@... | tel (206) 323-2349 fax (206) 325-6016 | trail tips website: http://www.cycoactive.com/mc/trail_tips +---------------------------------------------+

discovery trail

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2000 8:48 pm
by Dreas Nielsen
I just got back this morning from two and a half days on the OR BCDR, during which I rode the northern half, from Walla Walla down to Seneca on Route 395. In this half there were two sections of the route that were on ATV trails, per the OOHVA maps (and, in one case, per the signs; there were no signs anywhere near the other section). The northernmost ATV trail, and the one I ran into first, runs west from Winom Creek Campground. This section is, I think, definitely not suitable for a loaded KLR. I didn't know that until I was into it. This trail had some very abrupt, 3-4 foot high, closely spaced ribs, as well as some very steep, twisty, and rocky up- and down-grades, all generally embedded in a rutted trail from which there was no easy exit. I felt lucky to get through this stuff without dumping the KLR. The second section of ATV trail I skirted, based on my experience with the first. Except for these sections, everything was fine on a loaded KLR. There is one section where the trail, as ridden from the north per the hardcopy maps, follows a barely-visible track over rock and through forest. In fact, the trail was completely invisible at the point where it passed over a rocky knob, and I drove around in circles a bit looking for its continuation. Upon exiting this section, I found a BCDR signpost directing travelers from the south down an alternate route. My rear tire was a two-month old K750 with 3,000 miles, and on the front I had a one-year old K750 with 10,300 miles. The front had just under a half inch of tread left on the knobs, which was okay, but more would have been better in the deep gravel. I ran both tires at 18 psi. The rear tire was great in all conditions except mud (I had 3 hours of rain one morning, and the riding was miserable). But I will surely go for knobbier tires before hitting the sand in the southern section next summer. I got 55 to 58 mpg from the KLR while on the trail. I gassed up in LaGrande (a 37 mile detour, round trip) and Austin Junction (a 35 mile detour, round trip). There is also gas in Seneca. BCDR signs are useful when they are there, but they are often not there. Oregon has restrictions on ATV travel on forest roads, and many of the signed sections seemed to be on those roads open to ATVs. A GPS is definitely essential to making the route--the alternative would be an unbearable amount of map shuffling. A few intersections are signed on both sides, but most are signed only on the southern approach, so if you are coming from the north and want to check for signs, you generally have to look through the intersection. I found a few places where the signed route differed from the map route. The only trouble I had with the KLR was after gassing up in Austin Junction, which was after riding through the rain and quite a bit of mud: when I put the bike in gear to ride away, the engine died. I hosed down the sidestand cutoff switch with WD-40 and was on my way again in less than 5 minutes. Altogether, the BCDR is a great ride. I took a few pictures, but a camera is just insufficient to capture the breadth of the spectacular views that abound. And nothing can capture the odors of Ponderosa pine and sage, and all the other things making up the sensory milieu. Incidentally, Route 395 south of Pendleton (which was on my way home) is the clear, hands-down, all-time, no-holds-barred winner of the award for best motorcycling road I have ever encountered. It is 120 miles of smooth, empty, two-lane blacktop, sailing over the top of the Columbia Plateau and then winding down into a valley along some little stream, and then twisting its way back up the other side onto the Plateau again. Whether for scenery or sport riding, this road is the best. I lived in Oregon for several years, but have never ridden this road before--what a shame. Dreas
> From: Tom Myers > > >Recently you had a post about the discovery trail. > >I'm planning an early summer trip next year and am > >working on the logistics. > >I'd like to get your opinion on some issues. > >Is the trail okay for loaded KLR's and riders with > >minimal trail experience? We have two experienced off-road > >riders and one guy with some forest road experience only. > >(All mid 50 age) > > It's 100% two-track roads (no singletrack trail). There's lots of > variation in the 1000 miles. 90% would be fine for loaded KLRs. The > other 10% is OK for experienced off-road riders. By the end of the > trip all three will have experience! The KLR is probably the > perfect motorcycle for the OBDR. > > I think it would be difficult on a twin. You want knobby tires, I > think roadie tires would be 'tiring' on the many miles of loose > gravel, and worse in the sand. > > >Did you purchase/utilize the set of maps($60.00) available? > >I also use an Emap(and your RAM mount). > > I did not purchase the map set. However two of us dumped five hours > each into transcribing the map from a CD-rom (that's 10 man-hours). > We would have come out ahead by purchasing the $60 map set (but it > wasn't available in time for our departure date), and in addition > we'd have the hardcopy maps. Think of it as $10/day (definitely buy > the maps). Also, the money goes to support the OOHVA, a worthy cause. > > >What is the acessibility to civilization(gas/food) along the trail? > > Lots of accessibility to little towns. You should be OK with the KLR's
range.
> > >I would appreciate any comments. > > I intend to continue to put more info on the website > (http://www.cycoactive.com/obdr) to help others plan their OBDR trip. > > Tom

how low can you go???

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:41 am
by Kurt Simpson
My wife wants to play with the "Big Boys" and trade her klr-250 for a klr-650. I need to know if the lowering links for this bike will bring her down enough. She is 5'--3" and need a seat height of no more than 31 inches. Will these links allow that? ______________ I try to exercise restraint so that I won't get kicked off this list but every now and then there comes a perfect application for the DR650 and this is one of them. The DR is a few pounds lighter than the KLR buy it feels more like a 100. It's seat higher is lower its cockpit smaller and it comes from the factory designed to be factory lowered the proper way...by reducing travel. It is a terrific bike and with an IMS tank gives nearly 225-250 miles range.... If you must have a lowered KLR buy the shortened shock now available from DUAL STAR.... Kurt

discovery trail

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:43 am
by Kurt Simpson
I just got back this morning from two and a half days on the OR BCDR, during ____ Is this the ride where a DR rider died? and another in his party critically injured? Kurt