upgrade of 92 klr-650

[William Whalen]

Help would be greatly appreciated, could someone let me know exactly what egine parts I need to modify to upgrade my 92 KLR-650 to make it safe. Have read in this group about Pre-96 models needing to upgrade certain parts of the engine or I could be in for a massive scare driving at hwy. speeds. The second question: Jet-Kit for same bike, would like to improve the performance with a Jet-Kit, Will the Jet-Kit really improve the performance? I have a K&N Air Filter and Cobra 4-Stroke after market pipe on the bike know. Infomation on the parts (including parts # if possible) and best place to buy them would be greatly appreciated. This is very important to me so as one KLR rider to another, HELP! Bill Whalen 92 KLR-650A6 Central Florida

>From: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Reply-To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Digest Number 514 >Date: 6 Sep 2000 10:59:10 -0000 > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >Let's keep this list SPAM free! > >Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >There are 18 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Sidecar > From: "Jim Hyman" > 2. Re: tires/nklr > From: "Ralph E. Hanson" > 3. Re: Advice needed: Valve Shim time > From: "Jim Hyman" > 4. Wolfman Adventurer Tank Bag > From: Russell A Locke > 5. RE: If you could have them back NKLR > From: Russell A Locke > 6. Re: Advice needed: Valve Shim time > From: "Fred Hink" > 7. RE: Clutch lever adjustment???? > From: Rev.Chuck > 8. Re: Sidecar > From: mule2b@... > 9. Re: Wolfman Adventurer Tank Bag > From: mule2b@... > 10. RE: Crap - got ticketed > From: "Arne" > 11. Re: Seat hieght vs Getting on > From: aches@... > 12. Re: Weekend Ride Report from Northern CA > From: Tumu Rock > 13. wobble... > From: Tumu Rock > 14. Re: Clutch lever adjustment???? > From: "Jim Hyman" > 15. 00 KLR 650 > From: "glenn (august)" > 16. Re: 00 KLR 650 > From: Tumu Rock > 17. Re: Exhaust > From: aches@... > 18. Re: Sidecar > From: "Harry Thames" > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 03:49:46 -0000 > From: "Jim Hyman" >Subject: Re: Sidecar > >URAL sidecars & motorcycles are currently imported by a company >in western Washington state (Everett area?). > >Professor > >+++++++++++++++++++++++ >--- mule2b@a... wrote: > > > There's a Russian company out there making sidecars, > > it has four letters in the name, but I can't remember it > > offhand. Anyone know what I'm talking about? > > I've thought about putting one of these on The Mule, > > but................. > > > > Dale_Johnson@a... wrote: > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:40:42 -0400 > From: "Ralph E. Hanson" >Subject: Re: tires/nklr > >Van writes: > > >No, the Dunlop Trailmax REALLY suck in the wet grass, wet mud, and wet > >sand!!!! > > > >But there great on wet road!!! > >How do the Dunlop Trailmax tires differ from the stock Dunlops? > >Ralph > >Ralph E. Hanson >99 KRL 650 >http://www.wvu.edu/~journal2 > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 04:12:03 -0000 > From: "Jim Hyman" >Subject: Re: Advice needed: Valve Shim time > >Robb, > >Mark's advice is right on the money. > >Kawi specs are intake 0.004 to 0.008 inches [0.10 - 0.20 mm] > exhaust 0.006 to 0.010 inches [0.15 - 0.25 mm] > >In theory, replacement shims change the clearance by 0.002". >I'm a fan of loose clearances and suggest doing all valves so >that your new settings will be: > Left Intake .007/in > Right Intake .007 > Left Exhaust .009 > Right Exhaust .010 > >KLR valve clearance tightens up over time. My KLR pulls stronger >at low to mid throttle & runs much smoother with looser settings. >I seldom run at high rpm & can only do 85 - 95 mph (indicated) >with a full load of camping gear. > >Professor A9 Federal Way, WA. [USA] > >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >--- "Robb Seurkamp" wrote: > > > Hello group. > > Since I just received my super shim variety pack from Fred > > it is now that time to adjust the tight intake shim and I > > am wondering. Should I adjust all the other shims while I am > > in there? I think I remember someone saying or maybe I read > > it in the archives. That is is better to adjust the shims > > loose because the clearance will diminish over time or it > > will increase over time. I can't quite remember what I read > > and can't find it. > > > > Should I just adjust the Left intake and leave it at that? > > I have a Y2K with 1975 miles. Clearances are > > Left Intake .003/in > > Right Intake .005 > > Left Exhaust .005 > > Right Exhaust .006 > > > > Thanks in advance. If you want to reply off list that is fine with > > me. I don't want to stir up any big debate over shims. > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:18:15 -0700 > From: Russell A Locke >Subject: Wolfman Adventurer Tank Bag > >Anyone mount one of these monsters on their KLR? I have a like new >Wolfman left over from my R100GS and cant figure out where to attach the >front straps. > >Russ Locke >Chandler, AZ >'97 R1100RT, 96 KDX 200, '85 FJ1100, '98.5 Ural hack, KLR 650 A-12 > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:11:38 -0700 > From: Russell A Locke >Subject: RE: If you could have them back NKLR > >My favorite bike of all time was my '85 FJ1100. Bought it in 1992 with >7k miles, a bank repo. Put 30k on it and sold it in a moment of weakness >in 1996. > >Then this spring, I found an '85 for sale, advertised "like showroom, >4500 miles." Turns out it had 4200 and WAS like showroom. It is now >setting under a cover in my garage with battery tender attached. Will >probably never part with this one. > >Russ Locke >Chandler, AZ >'97 R1100RT, 96 KDX 200, '85 FJ1100, '98.5 Ural hack, KLR 650 A-12 > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:39:30 -0700 > From: "Fred Hink" >Subject: Re: Advice needed: Valve Shim time > >One thing I would caution anyone replacing shims is to make sure the new >shims are absolutely clean. The new shims I sell come coated in a rust >preventative that needs to be cleaned off before you install them in your >engine. If your new shims have even a speck of dust, they could loose the >seal that holds them in the valve buckets. Install new shims with the size >markings on the bottom (away from cam) so the cam doesn't rub off the >numbers. Make sure they are completely compressed into the valve buckets >and clean. Then you won't have any problems of them coming out when they >shouldn't. 8 >Fred > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Weaver, Mark > To: Robb Seurkamp ; DSN_klr650@egroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:48 PM > Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Advice needed: Valve Shim time > > > > > Hello group. > > Since I just received my super shim variety pack from Fred it is now > > that time to adjust the tight intake shim and I am wondering. Should > > I adjust all the other shims while I am in there? I think I remember > > someone saying or maybe I read it in the archives. That is is better > > to adjust the shims loose because the clearance will diminish over > > time or it will increase over time. I can't quite remember what I > > read and can't find it. > > > > Should I just adjust the Left intake and leave it at that? > > I have a Y2K with 1975 miles. Clearances are > > Left Intake .003/in > > Right Intake .005 > > Left Exhaust .005 > > Right Exhaust .006 > > > > Thanks in advance. If you want to reply off list that is fine with > > me. I don't want to stir up any big debate over shims. > > > > Robb S > > > > nice of you to be so considerate, but in view of how many posts i've >gotten > about owner's group names and dickheads, i think everyone can put up >with > post that's actually in line with the purpose of this list. > > if i were you, i would replace all your shims. from memory, it seems >like > your exhaust valves are either out of spec (left) or right on the border > (right) (isn't the exhaust spec .006-.010?). i figure that as long as >you > have it apart, you may as well do em all. otherwise you'll be worrying >about > the ones that are close until you get in there next time. > > the valves certainly do get tighter over due to valve and seat wear. the > valve gradually sits higher and higher into the seat, so the other end >of > the valve pushes against the shim which gets closer and closer to the >cam. > all my valves (on a y2k model) closed up about .002 over the first 6k >miles, > so i shimmed them all to the loose side of spec. i'm up to 12.5k now, >and > due any day to check them again. i'm pretty confident it will be only a > check, since they were fairly loose before, but you never know. > > note: don't forget to recheck the clearances with the new shims. 2 of >mine > were exactly what i calculated, but 2 of them were .001 tigher than i > calculated, which was still fine, but i recorded the actual measurements > afterwards so as to get an idea of the wear rates from 6-12k. > mw > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:07:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rev.Chuck >Subject: RE: Clutch lever adjustment???? > > >are you sure it didn't do it when new? my bike (and my last bike, and >every > >bike i've ridden with a wet multi-plate clutch) has exhibited this >behavior. > > > >> I looked in the archives but couldn't find an answer to my > >> problem. My KLR > >> A15's clutch is sticking when cold. If the bike is in first > >> gear with the > >> engine off and I pull the clutch lever all the way to the > >> grip, I can not > >> move the bike. It has to be in neutral. If I hit the starter > >> button with the > >> bike in first and the clutch pulled in, the bike makes a > >> small lurch forward > >> for about 4 inches then continues to turn over and start. If > >> I start the > >> bike in neutral and then pull in the clutch and shift into > >> first the bike > >> lurches forward a little. With the bike in neutral, clutch > >> lever released > >> and the engine running the bike does not creep forward even > >> when cold. This > >> bike only has 122 miles on it. It didn't do this when new. I > >> replaced the > >> clutch lever because I bent the original one. The problem > >> showed up after I > >> installed the new clutch lever. I adjusted it to what the > >> manual suggests. 2 > >> mm and 15 mm end play. I reinstalled the old lever but the > >> problem is still > >> there. Is there some special trick to adjust the clutch > >> lever? I didn't do > >> anything to the bike accept change the bent clutch lever. > >> same oil that was > >> in it 122 miles ago > >Careful to adjust the clutch on this one. >The cold wet-clutch lurch is really a common issue. If your bike does not >display this behavior when warm, it is only the cold thick oil in the >clutch basket making the bike act this way. Nothing more than an irritant. >For some reason the condition changes through out the life of the bike. Any >smart KORG mongers willing to 'splain it away? > > > >== >Rev. Chuck >:^)>+ >A13 >http://klr650.50megs.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >_____________________________________________________________ >Email Powered by Everyone.net > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:17:26 EDT > From: mule2b@... >Subject: Re: Sidecar > >In a message dated 9/5/00 11:51:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >professor.jim@... writes: > > in western Washington state (Everett area?). > > Professor >> > >Bingo! >Thanx for that info, Fess! > > uhhh..........Steve.....right? > "The Mule" > A14 > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:33:08 EDT > From: mule2b@... >Subject: Re: Wolfman Adventurer Tank Bag > >In a message dated 9/6/00 12:16:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >mcruss@... >writes: > > Wolfman left over from my R100GS and cant figure out where to attach the > front straps. > > Russ Locke >> > >Hey Russ- > If that's the Explorer you're talking about, I threaded my front >straps >around the steering column. This works great for refueling: just quick >release the two front buckles and flip the bag backward. I threaded the >rear >straps under the front of the seat where I can easily cross the two straps >and tuck under the front of the seat when not in use, virtually >disappearing. > Another extra I did was to take sections of bicycle tire tubes and >sheath and tie the straps together with them for sharp edge protection and >elasticity in fit. > So far this has worked well for me without damage, but be careful to >not >let the front plastic Fastex buckles rest on the gas tank surface while >riding without the bag installed. Tuck them to the side behind the front >lip >of the tank. Otherwise the vibrating plastic will scuff your tank finish. > > Steve > "The Mule" > A14 > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:03:11 -0700 > From: "Arne" >Subject: RE: Crap - got ticketed > >Glad to hear you are unsubbing Brian, as this Canadian dickhead (and cop) >is >removing you if you are still around. Asta-la-vista... > >Arne > -----Original Message----- > From: Shepard,Brian [mailto:shepard@...] > Sent: August 30, 2000 12:05 PM > To: 'kevin johnson'; 'Jim Cunningham'; 'Errett, Brian S'; >DSN_klr650@egroups.com; Shepard,Brian > Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Crap - got ticketed > > > > > My Groups | DSN_klr650 Main Page | Start a new group! > > > > Well, you're a dickhead. Never met a cop who wasn't. What does anyone's >wife and children have to do with it? Why do you bring up woman & children? >Because you're a dickhead. Take the exception and shove it up your ass! >This >is America and if you don't like it, tough shit! So you say my statement >went too far? Well what are you going to do about it? Are you threatening >me? Cause if you are, please, come to papa. > > I will fill everyone in on what this pig tries to do to me for posting >email because I can assure you he will try something. > Go ahead! > > > -Brian Shepard > PHILADELPHIA PA > A13 (unsubbing for good) > > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin johnson [mailto:kjohnson@...] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:20 PM > To: 'Jim Cunningham'; 'Errett, Brian S'; DSN_klr650@egroups.com; >Shepard,Brian > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Crap - got ticketed > > > I take exception to your statement, "cop & dickhead are one in the >same." I have been a police officer for the past 20 years and have been >riding motorcycles for 30 years. I would agree that there is a general >bias >by officers against motorcyclist (especially sport bike riders) however >there are officers who ride motorcyclist and would go out of their way to >help a fellow rider. I recently had a fellow officer lay his life down in >the line of duty for me and other officers. I would hardly consider him, >or >tell his wife and children that he was a "dickhead." I try to maintain a >thick skin and not be overly sensitive to many issues but I believe your >universal statement went to far. > > Kevin Johnson > Tulsa PD > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 11 > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 03:16:23 -0500 > From: aches@... >Subject: Re: Seat hieght vs Getting on > >over that seat is a problem. (once on, no problems)> > >Paul, What I have done and do is put my foot on the footpeg with the >side stand down, and mount up just like you would a horse. Learn this >from my BMW R11GSA which with the Camping gear stored on the passenger >part of the seat,. was impossible for me to get on any other way. 57 >year old joints and a 29 inseam just bend so far ya know . ;0). >Oh, yes, do the same thing getting off also. Kill the engine, put >sidestand down, stand up on the pegs and dismount.. >-- >Best Regards & Happy Trails >Andy Chesley @ 57 and ticking >Y2KLR650 @ 6.4K sMiles >97 R11RA (Amiga) @ 16K Miles >So Many Roads, So Little Time >http://members.deltech.net/aches/ > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:32:59 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tumu Rock >Subject: Re: Weekend Ride Report from Northern CA > > >On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 17:45:52 -0000, Bill E Goat wrote: > > >>> while Chef James whipped up a pan-broiled London Broil with tomatoes >and green beans, jardineri vegetables, et cetera. Very tasty,>>>> > >>>>>Next morning James made some red potatoes cooked in water contained >in last nights beer cans, on the fire, then added some ham steaks and some >soft-boiled eggs. Great Breakfast. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>We had salmon pasta with capers for dinner, and > some more beer. >>>>> > >You call that camping???? Wermz and durt fer brekky, durt and wermz for >lunch, and maggot stew for dinner....Now THAT"S camping!!!! > >dat brooklyn bum > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:41:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tumu Rock >Subject: wobble... > > >Last week someone asked me my opinion on a wobble their KLR had developed >(lost the e-mail and it must've been sent to me off-list cuz I couldn't >find >it in the message archives). So I'll post my reply to the list... > >If your wobble is a side-to-side motion like mine was then it could be the >steering stem bearings being loose (at least tightening mine got rid of my >problem). If it's an up-and-down wobble it could be that your tire needs >balancing or possibly that your rim is out of true. > >dat brooklyn bum > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:05:58 -0000 > From: "Jim Hyman" >Subject: Re: Clutch lever adjustment???? > >I've seen this before & the cause was a lever that seemed to >fit properly, but was not an exact replacement. The difference >in the 2 levers was in the location of the pivot hole where the >clutch cable end is inserted into the lever. If this slot is >closer to the pivot bolt hole in the lever than it should be, >you won't get the same amount (length) of pull when you >dis-engage the clutch. > >Kawi's spec is for 10-15mm free play at the ball end. Try the >10mm setting if your old & new levers are identical. Just be >sure that there is free play at the pivot bolt end of the lever >when your KLR is warmed up. > >BTW, do you go by Squishy? Squish? Are you related to Sasquatch? > >Professor A9 Federal Way, WA. [USA] > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >--- "The Squasher" wrote: > > > I looked in the archives but couldn't find an answer to my > problem. My KLR A15's clutch is sticking when cold. If the > bike is in first gear with the engine off and I pull the > clutch lever all the way to the grip, I can not move the > bike. It has to be in neutral. If I hit the starter button > with the bike in first and the clutch pulled in, the bike > makes a small lurch forward for about 4 inches then continues > to turn over and start. If I start the bike in neutral and > then pull in the clutch and shift into first the bike lurches > forward a little. With the bike in neutral, clutch lever > released and the engine running the bike does not creep > forward even when cold. This bike only has 122 miles on it. > It didn't do this when new. I replaced the clutch lever > because I bent the original one. The problem showed up > after I installed the new clutch lever. I adjusted it to what > the manual suggests. 2 mm and 15 mm end play. I reinstalled > the old lever but the problem is still there. Is there some > special trick to adjust the clutch lever? I didn't do anything > to the bike accept change the bent clutch lever. same oil that > was in it 122 miles ago > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:18:22 GMT > From: "glenn (august)" >Subject: 00 KLR 650 > >Hey Folks, I just joined the list. I am considering the purchase of a >slightly used 00 KLR 650. I noticed a couple in the paper and thought the >price was right. Two options. 1. All stock from a dealer with a 130 >miles...4200 plus fee's. 2. Private party, 435 miles, supertrapp exhaust, >gel grips and probend gaurds as well as some brand of heavy duty skid >plate, >500 mile service just done. Asking 4600..offered 4000, thinking it over. Is >this a good deal? I have heard that you can get em fairly cheap new as >well. >I tested the private party one, and I was actually not all that impressed >with 2 things...one the power, or lack of, and two the brakes, yikes! Any >thoughts on whether or not some of this can be sorted out with some easy >mods? But it was comfortable and seemed like it would be fun in the dirt. I >currently ride a sportbike so maybe I am asking to much of it, but years >ago >I had an XR500 that seemed much more powerful! Would appreciate any >feedback >before I go drop the cash. >TIA---g > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 02:37:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tumu Rock >Subject: Re: 00 KLR 650 > > >On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:18:22 GMT, glenn (august) wrote: > > I tested the private party one, and I was actually not all that >impressed >with 2 things...one the power, or lack of, and two the brakes, yikes! Any >or >not some of this can be sorted out with some easy mods? > TIA-g >______________________________________________________________________ > >Both bikes sound like decent deals. If you get the private party bike down >to $4000 then I personally would go for that over the dealer's. If you're >going off-road, gotta have that skid plate. > >Power is (fairly) easily boosted with a jet-kit. Drop the front sprocket >down one tooth and you'll get more pull but less top end. > >Brakes...definitely have to remedy that one. Stainless steel brake lines >are >easy to install and extremely effective. Some have gone with an oversize >MAPP rotor but that's up to your personal tastes (and budget). > >It ain't no motocrosser but it's a versatile and fun bike. Beef up the >suspension a bit and it will handle even better off-road. LOTS of >after-market support for this bike. > >Happy hunting and welcome aboard, > >dat brooklyn bum > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Say Bye to Slow Internet! >http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 17 > Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 04:42:09 -0500 > From: aches@... >Subject: Re: Exhaust > >Anyone have a stock muffler that'll fit a y2k klr650 they want to get >rid of., tweety or otherwise just so it's in good shape. yell at me off >list please. > >-- >Best Regards & Happy Trails >Andy Chesley @ 57 and ticking >Y2KLR650 @ 6.4K sMiles >97 R11RA (Amiga) @ 16K Miles >So Many Roads, So Little Time >http://members.deltech.net/aches/ > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:56:56 -0400 > From: "Harry Thames" >Subject: Re: Sidecar > >I've got a JAVA sidecar sitting in the weeds if anyone wants to try it out. >Had it on the MotoGuzzi and survived a few trips. They >take some getting use to. >Harry Thames >South Carolina > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > > >

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