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[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 2:08 pm
by Weaver, Mark
i got moto boots from thor, a newish model. more flexible than most. i
mostly got them because they're higher. hiking boots worked ok for
off-roading (but maybe i'm a puss and don't fall over), but they were cold
for getting to where i was going, and the soles weren't stiff enough. now i
can tuck my pants into the boots and keep from freezing.
mw
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Vervaeke [mailto:tom_vervaeke@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:58 AM
> To: KLR-650 List
> Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots?
>
>
> Hello:
>
> I'm a street rider getting into dual sporting. Therefore I don't
> have the appropriate footwear. I've now tried both regular hiking
> boots (not enough protection) and some old Army style boots (tall,
> but not enough protection) and need something better ASAP.
>
> Stopped by the local dealer today. For offroading they seem to have
> 2 styles: MX boots and Trials boots.
>
> The MX boots seem a bit of overkill for dualsporting. They are very
> tall, heavy, have 4-5 buckles, and the inside "storm flap" doesn't
> come up very high which means in a water crossing of more than 4-5"
> water is going to come in. Also hard to walk around for sure but
> do have lots of foot and ankle protection.
>
> Trials boots seem just a bit of under-kill. A little shorter in
> height than MX boots. All leather and not too much plastic. Most
> don't have the metal toe guards. Most have 3 buckles on the sides
> which I like. All of them have the "storm flap" which goes all the
> way up the inside of the boot which looks to mean I could stand
> in 12-15" of water and not get water in the boot. Much easier to walk
> around but not as much protection on boot and ankles.
>
> Without getting into all the various models, what do most of you wear
> when out riding in the rocks/dirt/etc..? I need to protect my feet
> better before I break something.
>
> I'm guessing I'd rather go for a boot that's a bit more comfortable
> to walk in at the expense of protection. So, am currently leaning
> towards the trials boots.
>
> Price for good models of their style is in the $125-250 range.
>
> Any advice is welcome.
>
> tom
> A13
>
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[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 2:09 pm
by Scherer, Michael
If you aren't afraid to go to $250, Combat touring boots from Aerostitch are
what are on my feet.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Vervaeke [mailto:tom_vervaeke@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:58 PM
To: KLR-650 List
Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots?
Hello:
I'm a street rider getting into dual sporting. Therefore I don't
have the appropriate footwear. I've now tried both regular hiking
boots (not enough protection) and some old Army style boots (tall,
but not enough protection) and need something better ASAP.
Stopped by the local dealer today. For offroading they seem to have
2 styles: MX boots and Trials boots.
The MX boots seem a bit of overkill for dualsporting. They are very
tall, heavy, have 4-5 buckles, and the inside "storm flap" doesn't
come up very high which means in a water crossing of more than 4-5"
water is going to come in. Also hard to walk around for sure but
do have lots of foot and ankle protection.
Trials boots seem just a bit of under-kill. A little shorter in
height than MX boots. All leather and not too much plastic. Most
don't have the metal toe guards. Most have 3 buckles on the sides
which I like. All of them have the "storm flap" which goes all the
way up the inside of the boot which looks to mean I could stand
in 12-15" of water and not get water in the boot. Much easier to walk
around but not as much protection on boot and ankles.
Without getting into all the various models, what do most of you wear
when out riding in the rocks/dirt/etc..? I need to protect my feet
better before I break something.
I'm guessing I'd rather go for a boot that's a bit more comfortable
to walk in at the expense of protection. So, am currently leaning
towards the trials boots.
Price for good models of their style is in the $125-250 range.
Any advice is welcome.
tom
A13
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'99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 3.1K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home)
'96 BMW R1100GS, Black 60K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work)
Colorado DualSporters Group |Ph: 719-650-4578 (cell/riding)
Try:
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[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 2:22 pm
by Tom Myers
>i got moto boots from thor, a newish model. more flexible than most. i
>mostly got them because they're higher. hiking boots worked ok for
>off-roading (but maybe i'm a puss and don't fall over), but they were cold
>for getting to where i was going, and the soles weren't stiff enough. now i
>can tuck my pants into the boots and keep from freezing.
I've been using Thor's lowest-level MX boot because it's the lightest
weight MXboot I saw. Also low cost, somewhere around $120. Seem to
be lasting OK (2 years now)?? Who knows. My old Hi-Points lasted 13
years.
Tom
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[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 3:18 pm
by Tom Vervaeke
Michael:
I guess I should have stated that I'd like boots that will quickly
break in. I have several friends that told me that their's took
upwards of 1-2 years before they felt totally "comfy". I'm 44, I
don't have 2 years to wait. I like boots that feel fairly comfy
from the git go.
Tom
--- "Scherer, Michael" wrote:
> If you aren't afraid to go to $250, Combat touring boots from
> Aerostitch are
> what are on my feet.
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'99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 3.1K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home)
'96 BMW R1100GS, Black 60K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work)
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[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 3:42 pm
by LawsonCL@aol.com
Combat Touring Boots are the best for dual sporting. Further, I've never
bought in to all this sniveling about boots being too uncomfy to break-in.
Just wear the damn things and they'll break-in quickly.
I've stomped around in creeks with water halfway to my knees and never felt a
drop get into my Combat Touring Boots. My Thor Explores leaked from the first
drizzle and were immediately reassigned as spider housing in the garage.
Chris Lawson
[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 3:44 pm
by BCSavWill@cs.com
Hi Tom,
I wear MSR world tour boots, I am pleased with them,, easy break in, good
support, comfortable, good protection. Good way to break them in for walking
is to walk.....slowly at first.....up a hill!! Try Not to WALK through water
otherwise mine stay dry. I use SNO-SEAL on mine to keep them protected and
supple. Leave boots and seal in the sun for a bit first.
My girl wears AlpineStar M4's with ATV sole. LOTS of grip burt be wary of
slidding foot in fast bends !!!!!!
Regards,
Brian
A14
D17
[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 4:27 pm
by Scherer, Michael
Aerostitch Combat Touring boots are SIDIs.
Biker Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill E Goat [mailto:monahanwb@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:04 PM
To:
DSN_klr650@egroups.com
Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots?
--- In
DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Tom Vervaeke wrote:
> Michael:
>
> I guess I should have stated that I'd like boots that will quickly
> break in. I have several friends that told me that their's took
> upwards of 1-2 years before they felt totally "comfy". I'm 44, I
> don't have 2 years to wait. I like boots that feel fairly comfy
> from the git go.
That's why the Sidis are where it's at. I thought I was nuts buying
such an expensive boot, until after the first hour I had worn them.
They are super-comfortable, right from the start.
Big Boots Bill
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[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 6:45 pm
by Weaver, Mark
> On the trail, I have found the extra protection to be a benefit.
> More than once I have found myself on my side with one of my feet
> stuck under the weight of my KLR, but no injuries.
i don't want to pick on anyone, i'm just curious. is this something that
some people do a lot and others don't do at all? i have a hard time
imagining getting my foot stuck under my bike, but i saw one poor fellow do
it twice in a few miles in moab, and my wife did it when she crashed in the
gravel a couple months ago. i would think instinct would tend to encourage
you to get your feet the heck out of the way if the bike starts to tip over.
is it not this way for others?
maybe it's because i have zillions of miles of mtn biking experience,
involving lots of crashes, most of which ended up with me on my feet, not
near the bike.
mw
[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 7:12 pm
by Dash Weeks
>
>i don't want to pick on anyone, i'm just curious. is this something that
>some people do a lot and others don't do at all? i have a hard time
>imagining getting my foot stuck under my bike, but i saw one poor fellow do
>it twice in a few miles in moab, and my wife did it when she crashed in the
>gravel a couple months ago. i would think instinct would tend to encourage
>you to get your feet the heck out of the way if the bike starts to tip over.
>is it not this way for others?
>
>maybe it's because i have zillions of miles of mtn biking experience,
>involving lots of crashes, most of which ended up with me on my feet, not
>near the bike.
>
>mw
Well I have a theory, wanna read it?
See acceleration due to gravity isn't constant. When your 350-400 #
wandering whale decides to beach itself, the gravity chip tells earth that
it is time. You and your whale are accelerated to the dirt approximately
three times the acceleration to normally make a 350 # male to fall off the
bar stool drunk. Now your foot can be twice the acceleration due to
gravity but that is still slower than the whale to earth acceleration. Now
those who have escaped have either 1) six million dollar man reflexes or 2)
aren't really riding your KLR's, you all must be dreaming about them and
you wake up all dirty.
Me .... I've saved my paintjob with a bruised ankle/ego a couple times. I
use FOX Tracker 2000, BTW, cheap and only comfy enough for riding. I got
out of the way once and ended up with a scratched tank and broken right
shroud, not anymore, I declare!
Bravo to you Mark, putting your body first....
LaterZ
Dash
[dsn_klr650] nklr - dual sporting boots?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2000 7:49 pm
by Joe Percival
Are you old enough to remember LaughIn? Remember the guy on the trike? Always fell over with feet firmly planted on the pedals (pegs).
-----Original Message-----
From: Weaver, Mark [SMTP:markw@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:41 PM
To:
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Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots?
> On the trail, I have found the extra protection to be a benefit.
> More than once I have found myself on my side with one of my feet
> stuck under the weight of my KLR, but no injuries.
i don't want to pick on anyone, i'm just curious. is this something that
some people do a lot and others don't do at all? i have a hard time
imagining getting my foot stuck under my bike, but i saw one poor fellow do
it twice in a few miles in moab, and my wife did it when she crashed in the
gravel a couple months ago. i would think instinct would tend to encourage
you to get your feet the heck out of the way if the bike starts to tip over.
is it not this way for others?
maybe it's because i have zillions of miles of mtn biking experience,
involving lots of crashes, most of which ended up with me on my feet, not
near the bike.
mw
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