[dsn_klr650] crap - got ticketed (nklr)

[Weaver, Mark]

i got moto boots from thor, a newish model. more flexible than most. i mostly got them because they're higher. hiking boots worked ok for off-roading (but maybe i'm a puss and don't fall over), but they were cold for getting to where i was going, and the soles weren't stiff enough. now i can tuck my pants into the boots and keep from freezing. mw

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Vervaeke [mailto:tom_vervaeke@...] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:58 AM > To: KLR-650 List > Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots? > > > Hello: > > I'm a street rider getting into dual sporting. Therefore I don't > have the appropriate footwear. I've now tried both regular hiking > boots (not enough protection) and some old Army style boots (tall, > but not enough protection) and need something better ASAP. > > Stopped by the local dealer today. For offroading they seem to have > 2 styles: MX boots and Trials boots. > > The MX boots seem a bit of overkill for dualsporting. They are very > tall, heavy, have 4-5 buckles, and the inside "storm flap" doesn't > come up very high which means in a water crossing of more than 4-5" > water is going to come in. Also hard to walk around for sure but > do have lots of foot and ankle protection. > > Trials boots seem just a bit of under-kill. A little shorter in > height than MX boots. All leather and not too much plastic. Most > don't have the metal toe guards. Most have 3 buckles on the sides > which I like. All of them have the "storm flap" which goes all the > way up the inside of the boot which looks to mean I could stand > in 12-15" of water and not get water in the boot. Much easier to walk > around but not as much protection on boot and ankles. > > Without getting into all the various models, what do most of you wear > when out riding in the rocks/dirt/etc..? I need to protect my feet > better before I break something. > > I'm guessing I'd rather go for a boot that's a bit more comfortable > to walk in at the expense of protection. So, am currently leaning > towards the trials boots. > > Price for good models of their style is in the $125-250 range. > > Any advice is welcome. > > tom > A13 > > > ===== > ========================================================= > Tom Vervaeke, Colorado, USA |Email: tom_vervaeke@... > '99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 3.1K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home) > '96 BMW R1100GS, Black 60K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work) > Colorado DualSporters Group |Ph: 719-650-4578 (cell/riding) > Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/Colorado-Dualsporters > ========================================================= > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates > of 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Ongoing APR* and no annual fee! > Apply NOW! > http://click.egroups.com/1/7872/6/_/911801/_/967057051/ > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------|e>- > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >

[Scherer, Michael]

If you aren't afraid to go to $250, Combat touring boots from Aerostitch are what are on my feet. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Vervaeke [mailto:tom_vervaeke@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:58 PM To: KLR-650 List Subject: [DSN_klr650] NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots? Hello: I'm a street rider getting into dual sporting. Therefore I don't have the appropriate footwear. I've now tried both regular hiking boots (not enough protection) and some old Army style boots (tall, but not enough protection) and need something better ASAP. Stopped by the local dealer today. For offroading they seem to have 2 styles: MX boots and Trials boots. The MX boots seem a bit of overkill for dualsporting. They are very tall, heavy, have 4-5 buckles, and the inside "storm flap" doesn't come up very high which means in a water crossing of more than 4-5" water is going to come in. Also hard to walk around for sure but do have lots of foot and ankle protection. Trials boots seem just a bit of under-kill. A little shorter in height than MX boots. All leather and not too much plastic. Most don't have the metal toe guards. Most have 3 buckles on the sides which I like. All of them have the "storm flap" which goes all the way up the inside of the boot which looks to mean I could stand in 12-15" of water and not get water in the boot. Much easier to walk around but not as much protection on boot and ankles. Without getting into all the various models, what do most of you wear when out riding in the rocks/dirt/etc..? I need to protect my feet better before I break something. I'm guessing I'd rather go for a boot that's a bit more comfortable to walk in at the expense of protection. So, am currently leaning towards the trials boots. Price for good models of their style is in the $125-250 range. Any advice is welcome. tom A13 ===== ========================================================= Tom Vervaeke, Colorado, USA |Email: tom_vervaeke@... '99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 3.1K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home) '96 BMW R1100GS, Black 60K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work) Colorado DualSporters Group |Ph: 719-650-4578 (cell/riding) Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/Colorado-Dualsporters ========================================================= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Tom Myers]

>i got moto boots from thor, a newish model. more flexible than most. i >mostly got them because they're higher. hiking boots worked ok for >off-roading (but maybe i'm a puss and don't fall over), but they were cold >for getting to where i was going, and the soles weren't stiff enough. now i >can tuck my pants into the boots and keep from freezing.

I've been using Thor's lowest-level MX boot because it's the lightest weight MXboot I saw. Also low cost, somewhere around $120. Seem to be lasting OK (2 years now)?? Who knows. My old Hi-Points lasted 13 years. Tom -- +------------------------------------+ | CycoActive Products tel (206) 323-2349 | 701 34th Ave fax (206) 325-6016 | Seattle, WA 98122 USA | website: http://www.cycoactive.com | e-mail: TomMyers@... +------------------------------------+

[Tom Vervaeke]

Michael: I guess I should have stated that I'd like boots that will quickly break in. I have several friends that told me that their's took upwards of 1-2 years before they felt totally "comfy". I'm 44, I don't have 2 years to wait. I like boots that feel fairly comfy from the git go. Tom --- "Scherer, Michael" wrote:

> If you aren't afraid to go to $250, Combat touring boots from > Aerostitch are > what are on my feet.

===== ========================================================= Tom Vervaeke, Colorado, USA |Email: tom_vervaeke@... '99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 3.1K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home) '96 BMW R1100GS, Black 60K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work) Colorado DualSporters Group |Ph: 719-650-4578 (cell/riding) Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/Colorado-Dualsporters ========================================================= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

[LawsonCL@aol.com]

Combat Touring Boots are the best for dual sporting. Further, I've never bought in to all this sniveling about boots being too uncomfy to break-in. Just wear the damn things and they'll break-in quickly. I've stomped around in creeks with water halfway to my knees and never felt a drop get into my Combat Touring Boots. My Thor Explores leaked from the first drizzle and were immediately reassigned as spider housing in the garage. Chris Lawson

[BCSavWill@cs.com]

Hi Tom, I wear MSR world tour boots, I am pleased with them,, easy break in, good support, comfortable, good protection. Good way to break them in for walking is to walk.....slowly at first.....up a hill!! Try Not to WALK through water otherwise mine stay dry. I use SNO-SEAL on mine to keep them protected and supple. Leave boots and seal in the sun for a bit first. My girl wears AlpineStar M4's with ATV sole. LOTS of grip burt be wary of slidding foot in fast bends !!!!!! Regards, Brian A14 D17

[Scherer, Michael]

Aerostitch Combat Touring boots are SIDIs. Biker Mike -----Original Message----- From: Bill E Goat [mailto:monahanwb@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:04 PM To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots?

--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Tom Vervaeke wrote: > Michael: > > I guess I should have stated that I'd like boots that will quickly > break in. I have several friends that told me that their's took > upwards of 1-2 years before they felt totally "comfy". I'm 44, I > don't have 2 years to wait. I like boots that feel fairly comfy > from the git go. That's why the Sidis are where it's at. I thought I was nuts buying such an expensive boot, until after the first hour I had worn them. They are super-comfortable, right from the start. Big Boots Bill Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Weaver, Mark]

> On the trail, I have found the extra protection to be a benefit. > More than once I have found myself on my side with one of my feet > stuck under the weight of my KLR, but no injuries.

i don't want to pick on anyone, i'm just curious. is this something that some people do a lot and others don't do at all? i have a hard time imagining getting my foot stuck under my bike, but i saw one poor fellow do it twice in a few miles in moab, and my wife did it when she crashed in the gravel a couple months ago. i would think instinct would tend to encourage you to get your feet the heck out of the way if the bike starts to tip over. is it not this way for others? maybe it's because i have zillions of miles of mtn biking experience, involving lots of crashes, most of which ended up with me on my feet, not near the bike. mw

[Dash Weeks]

> >i don't want to pick on anyone, i'm just curious. is this something that >some people do a lot and others don't do at all? i have a hard time >imagining getting my foot stuck under my bike, but i saw one poor fellow do >it twice in a few miles in moab, and my wife did it when she crashed in the >gravel a couple months ago. i would think instinct would tend to encourage >you to get your feet the heck out of the way if the bike starts to tip over. >is it not this way for others? > >maybe it's because i have zillions of miles of mtn biking experience, >involving lots of crashes, most of which ended up with me on my feet, not >near the bike. > >mw

Well I have a theory, wanna read it? See acceleration due to gravity isn't constant. When your 350-400 # wandering whale decides to beach itself, the gravity chip tells earth that it is time. You and your whale are accelerated to the dirt approximately three times the acceleration to normally make a 350 # male to fall off the bar stool drunk. Now your foot can be twice the acceleration due to gravity but that is still slower than the whale to earth acceleration. Now those who have escaped have either 1) six million dollar man reflexes or 2) aren't really riding your KLR's, you all must be dreaming about them and you wake up all dirty. Me .... I've saved my paintjob with a bruised ankle/ego a couple times. I use FOX Tracker 2000, BTW, cheap and only comfy enough for riding. I got out of the way once and ended up with a scratched tank and broken right shroud, not anymore, I declare! Bravo to you Mark, putting your body first.... LaterZ Dash

[Joe Percival]

Are you old enough to remember LaughIn? Remember the guy on the trike? Always fell over with feet firmly planted on the pedals (pegs). -----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Mark [SMTP:markw@...] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:41 PM To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR - Dual Sporting Boots?

> On the trail, I have found the extra protection to be a benefit. > More than once I have found myself on my side with one of my feet > stuck under the weight of my KLR, but no injuries.

i don't want to pick on anyone, i'm just curious. is this something that some people do a lot and others don't do at all? i have a hard time imagining getting my foot stuck under my bike, but i saw one poor fellow do it twice in a few miles in moab, and my wife did it when she crashed in the gravel a couple months ago. i would think instinct would tend to encourage you to get your feet the heck out of the way if the bike starts to tip over. is it not this way for others? maybe it's because i have zillions of miles of mtn biking experience, involving lots of crashes, most of which ended up with me on my feet, not near the bike. mw Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com