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>From: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Reply-To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Digest Number 496 >Date: 1 Sep 2000 02:31:13 -0000 > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >Let's keep this list SPAM free! > >Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >There are 25 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: super do-it-yourself touring tool carrier > From: Tom Simpson > 2. Age NKLR > From: "Stuart Mumford" > 3. Re: NKLR - Call for assistance > From: Toby Lampson > 4. Age > From: "Roy James" > 5. kick start > From: "Roy James" > 6. Cowl-support > From: Renn > 7. RE: Crap - got ticketed > From: JIM JAMES > 8. RE: dickhead > From: JIM JAMES > 9. RE: Moron Crap-Ticketed NKLR > From: JIM JAMES > 10. RE: super do-it-yourself touring tool carrier > From: JIM JAMES > 11. Re: Skid Plate affects KLR Shifting / Or, I'm an idiot > From: "John Magee" > 12. Re: Slime ??? > From: TLrydr@... > 13. Elden Carl > From: "Jim & Shannon Morehead" > 14. ELDEN CARL SUMMER SPECTACULAR...ON THE AIR > From: "Robert Morgan" > 15. Elden Carl's balancer shaft adjustment procedure > From: "Robert Morgan" > 16. IT'S ALMOST TIME!!!! > From: Toby Lampson > 17. Elden > From: "Jim & Shannon Morehead" > 18. Re: Elden > From: "Robert Morgan" > 19. Re: Elden Carl's balancer shaft adjustment procedure > From: Mark > 20. Elden > From: "Jim & Shannon Morehead" > 21. Difference in engines.. > From: "Kurt Simpson" > 22. Re: Elden Carl's balancer shaft adjustment procedure > From: Krgrife@... > 23. Next greatest 'weak link' > From: Toby Lampson > 24. Re: Elden > From: "Robert Morgan" > 25. Re: Difference in engines.. > From: "Kurt Simpson" > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:53:50 -0400 > From: Tom Simpson >Subject: Re: super do-it-yourself touring tool carrier > > > >Harry Thames wrote: > > > > If you don't need the large tool holder, you can get a welding rod >storage container from Lowes or Home Depot for around $7. Its > > about 3 inches in diameter and 18 inches long with a water tight cap. >Gives you a little more room for those deep compression > > bumps. > > > There are also British-made containers available on the military >surplus market that hold 81mm mortar shells. These are very similar to >the welding rod containers but are a bit larger, a bit heavier and a bit >cheaper. Guess what I keep in one of mine? Welding rod! > > Personally, I took a .50 caliber ammo can and cut it down to about 2 >inches high and bolted it down to the front frame tube. Looks and works >great. > >-Tom >'96 KLR 650 > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:00:11 -0700 > From: "Stuart Mumford" >Subject: Age NKLR > >Quoth the elder Mr. Mumford; >"There are old riders, and there are bold riders, but there aren't many old >bold riders." > >CA Stu > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:11:08 -0700 > From: Toby Lampson >Subject: Re: NKLR - Call for assistance > >You asked for it you got it........ >Becoming a Dirt Rider before a Street Rider is 'Priceless'. > >You gain automatic crash avoidance reflexes while first learning in the >dirt, >that you will be able to gain......no other way. > >If you master dirt first, when you go to street you'll be better than >75% of those out there......and you'll have the automatic responses >that will save your life. > >I'm such a believer in the Dirt First rule I think one should >be required to have one of these three before being allowed >to carry a MC permit. >1)- 1,500 hours supervised offroad exp.......or 'confidence' on >blue diamonds. > >2)- Two offroad wrecks where 'blood' was drawn. > >3) Two black diamond solo rides. > > >Living begins where the pavement ends........as they say. > >If you want to test my philosophy do this: >First get a friend with a pickup. >You get in the back. >A) Tell him to accelerate to 25mph, maintain speed, you jump out the >back-----on asphalt. >B) Do everything the same, but now jump out >-------------------------------on dirt. > > >a believer in the Divine.............Slide > > > >Rev.Chuck wrote: > > > The other crowd that seems to be dying off are brand new riders between >their mid 40s and mid 50s... > > > > Ok, I have had enough of this - > > My brother in law is starting out on a FZR600, I have tried to tell him >about the benifits of a DS, but Noooo. > > > > So, I told him a friend may drop him a line or two... > > > > I guess I am asking the KORG to SPAM him...? > > > > No, just each of you drop him a line or two to *educate* him away from >the 200MPH hamburger maker and mount a real mud slinging dust blower. > > > > MCLARK00@... > > > > (he knows that it is coming... :^) > > > > == > > Rev. Chuck > > :^)>+ > > A13 > > http://klr650.50megs.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Email Powered by Everyone.net > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 00:21:10 -0000 > From: "Roy James" >Subject: Age > >About age I'm 37 have been riding off and on for close to 20 years.My >first bike when I was about 20 was a Harley Sportster. I nearly got >killed on it.While not fast by Ninja standards it was way to much for >someone of limited experience(and handled like crap).I just bought a >2001 klr650. I nearly let my ego push me into buying a ricerocket.I'm >glad I didn't the klr is plenty powerful enough for any normal use >and it can do many things a regular street bike simply can't. It's >the best thing since individually wrapped vacuum packed sliced cheese. > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 00:24:31 -0000 > From: "Roy James" >Subject: kick start > > the Illustrated parts breakdown(y2klr) shows parts for a kick start. >Does anyone know about installing it? The local Kawasaki dealer told >a fried of mine it couldn't be fitted. Any comment? > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:24:45 -0400 (EDT) > From: Renn >Subject: Cowl-support > >Thank's to all for the cowl-support straightening advice, it sounds like >the >way to go is to lash the bike to an immobile object and the cowl-support to >an anchored come-along. A bit of finesse and a bit of brut force, I like >it! :-* Later. > >Renn >A15 ( Rocinante ) > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:31:34 -0400 > From: JIM JAMES >Subject: RE: Crap - got ticketed > >I reckon every group has one. This is where the weird turn pro..... > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:35:00 -0400 > From: JIM JAMES >Subject: RE: dickhead > > > >---------- >From: Tom Myers[SMTP:TomMyers@...] >Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:19 PM >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] dickhead > > > >What, exactly, is a dickhead? >You'll know 'em from their posts. james > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:52:13 -0400 > From: JIM JAMES >Subject: RE: Moron Crap-Ticketed NKLR > >I think he said he was unsubbing. Now, I may wrong, but isn't this the way >the PTL club got started? Until he wrote the post to Jim I thought maybe >it was a member of the Karolina Kawasaki Klub. James > >---------- > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:18:11 -0400 > From: JIM JAMES >Subject: RE: super do-it-yourself touring tool carrier > >dEAR sIR...cAN YOu sTiLL cARRy yOre wELDInG rOdS iN iT? mY tooL iS tO bIG 4 >iT. JAMES IN S.C. > >If you don't need the large tool holder, you can get a welding rod >storage container from Lowes or Home Depot > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 01:18:41 -0000 > From: "John Magee" >Subject: Re: Skid Plate affects KLR Shifting / Or, I'm an idiot > > > Eric > > Colorado Springs > > A13L "Beef" > > ps-my Moose touches the engine case on the left side, have heard >this could > > cause probs, looks to me like a stronger arrangement. Opinions? > > > >I had the same problem with mine. I thought more than anything it >might create an annoying noise with the plate against the vibrating >engine. I loosened all the straps and the front clamp, wedged the >bash plate over and tightened everything up again. It left a gap >about 3/16 inch. It's been there through a few weeks of tough stuff >and seems to have stayed in place. > >John >Canuk on a KLR > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:01:03 EDT > From: TLrydr@... >Subject: Re: Slime ??? > > To the all knowing BORG > I have 2 bottles of slime in front of me. One says for tube tires$7.95 >and >is thick, And the other says tubless tires $3.95 and is or looks to be >thinner....... >Whats the deal?????????????????????????????? > > Mike > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:01:20 -0500 > From: "Jim & Shannon Morehead" >Subject: Elden Carl > >Hi guys, > >I'm here at the appointed time and station. Anyone else out there? > >Jim > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:57:16 -0700 > From: "Robert Morgan" >Subject: ELDEN CARL SUMMER SPECTACULAR...ON THE AIR > > Ladies and gentleman, Elden is in the house. I thought we would start >this evening with a posting of Elden's recently written instructions for >balancer shaft adjustment. This has been submitted for publication to DSN >so this is a scoop, I hope Kurt and Ron will forgive us but Elden feels >this >is a very timely topic. > So any questions? > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:57:45 -0700 > From: "Robert Morgan" >Subject: Elden Carl's balancer shaft adjustment procedure > >BALANCER ADJUSTMENT PROCEDURE FOR POST 1996 KAWASAKI KLR-650s: >By ELDEN CARL > > > > Even though Kawasaki has greatly improved the balancer adjustment >mechanism in KLR 650s they're still faulty if not adjusted properly. The >main problem is that there is no snap ring retaining the balancer >adjustment >lever. The lever can actually stick to the adjustment bolt when it is >turned out, and get cocked and bent when the bolt is turned back in. When >the engine is started, it, (the lever) can be hit by the back of the large >starter gear nearby. > I have experimented with the balancer mechanism adjustment on the >engine I am building and come up with what I think is the only sure fire >procedure. > A. Lean the bike to the right as far as you can. (I lean mine against >the >wall, in gear, while the engine is still hot so the oil won t be too >sticky). > B. Lower the bashplate and remove the plug from the adjuster bolt. > C. Loosen the bolt less than turn and then turn it back in until it >just >starts to tighten. > D. Back the bolt out again to exactly turn and tap the end of it >gently >with a plastic mallet. > E. Turn the bolt back in and torque it to 8.5ft. lbs. > F. Replace the rubber plug and bash plate and go riding. > > What about pre-1996 KLRs ? For liability reasons I will give you no >advice as to adjustment procedures or torque specifications. If the old >bolt has ever been over torqued the lever may never move again. If the >brittle old spring is broken the chain may loosen instead of tighten when >adjusted and then jump off track, destroying your engine. > ` I would not ride a KLR in heavy traffic that did not have the new >parts and my drive washer installed or at least the pins and springs that >drive the balancer inspected to make sure they are all there and in good >condition. > If you think I m being overly dramatic ask Kurt Grife, Jim Bellach, >Dan >Turner, or Rupert Humphrey: all of whom have had their engines blown up by >the balancer gremlins. Rupert lost two, one at open throttle. PLEASE FIX >YOUR PRE-1996 KLR 650. > I have been accused of helping to drive down the price of used >pre-1996 >KLR650s, but a properly updated KLR650 is as good as a new one and better >in >some ways (more on that later). > I am counting on Kurt Grife a bunch to document the bulletproofing of >his KLR and to help me force Kawasaki to prove they aren t the same guys >who >enslaved our servicemen during WW2 by fixing these potentially deadly KLR >balancer mechanisms and clutch baskets which are throwing chunks of spring >out into the oil stream. > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:56:39 -0700 > From: Toby Lampson >Subject: IT'S ALMOST TIME!!!! > >For Morg, the Borg.......and the DSN Elden Carl Show........ > >and Dawn's halftime dancer's????????? > >I wanna see Dawn's legs! >Show me your legs Dawn! Slide > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 17 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:06:12 -0500 > From: "Jim & Shannon Morehead" >Subject: Elden > >Hi Elden, > >I've seen your name in print many times during the last several months, but >I'm sorry to say I don't know much about you. Are you a pro mechanic? > >Jim > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 18 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:05:15 -0700 > From: "Robert Morgan" >Subject: Re: Elden > >I have never worked as a professional mechanic. However, I have been >building motorcycles and engines since 1955 and built long travel offroad >bikes long before the "big four". >(Morgan's note.....Elden is far too fussy at what he does to make money at >it!) >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jim & Shannon Morehead >To: DSN_klr650 DSN_klr650@egroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:06 PM >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Elden > > > > Hi Elden, > > > > I've seen your name in print many times during the last several months, >but > > I'm sorry to say I don't know much about you. Are you a pro mechanic? > > > > Jim > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 19 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:16:50 -0400 > From: Mark >Subject: Re: Elden Carl's balancer shaft adjustment procedure > >At 6:57 PM -0700 8/31/00, Robert Morgan wrote: > >BALANCER ADJUSTMENT PROCEDURE FOR POST 1996 KAWASAKI KLR-650s: > >By ELDEN CARL >SNIP > > I have been accused of helping to drive down the price of used >pre-1996 > >KLR650s > >Works for me! Keep at it so I can expand my fleet. >Mark >B2 >A2 > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 20 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:16:48 -0500 > From: "Jim & Shannon Morehead" >Subject: Elden > >I really don't have any intelligent quesitons to pose tonight. I just >mounted a new rear tire on my A13 today and my old bod is a little stiff >and >sore from the experience. I really had to work at getting the last little >bit of the bead to seat. > >Should I take it a little easy on the new tire for a few days? Do you guys >worry about tire balance much? > >Jim > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 21 > Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 02:19:10 -0000 > From: "Kurt Simpson" >Subject: Difference in engines.. > >Hi Elden, > >Well, I haven't forgotten that you promised a rundown on the subtle >differences between the KLR engines over the years...ready to go? > >Kurt > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:21:58 EDT > From: Krgrife@... >Subject: Re: Elden Carl's balancer shaft adjustment procedure > >In a message dated 8/31/00 7:05:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >robertlmorgan@... writes: > >of > his KLR >> > >More photos for this were taken today and my moto-journalist riding buddy >will be doing a magazine article (probably two) on this subject and on my >rebuild that is being completed under Elden's guidance. >Kurt G. > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 23 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:14:29 -0700 > From: Toby Lampson >Subject: Next greatest 'weak link' > >Hello Elden- > Kudos and Tacos for the generosity of your time >venerable sir............. > Question: Other than the two upgrades(balancer/clutch >basket) for pre 96' bikes...... > And the one 'gear piece' that replaces 8 moving parts..... > > What is the next weakest link you see yourself addressing in >the KLR in the future.....................our cam tensioner perhaps? > > >Slide > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 24 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:17:15 -0700 > From: "Robert Morgan" >Subject: Re: Elden > >If you are careful as you are prying on the tire bead to be careful to push >the bead down into the drop center of the rim (where the spokes are) you >will find it to be a piece of cake. I carefully balance every tire, knobby >or otherwise. Your bike will run smoother and your suspension will be able >to keep the tire on the ground. >Elden >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jim & Shannon Morehead >To: DSN_klr650 DSN_klr650@egroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:16 PM >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Elden > > > > I really don't have any intelligent quesitons to pose tonight. I just > > mounted a new rear tire on my A13 today and my old bod is a little stiff >and > > sore from the experience. I really had to work at getting the last >little > > bit of the bead to seat. > > > > Should I take it a little easy on the new tire for a few days? Do you >guys > > worry about tire balance much? > > > > Jim > > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 25 > Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:27:44 -0600 > From: "Kurt Simpson" >Subject: Re: Difference in engines.. > >Morgan, what say we give the chat room a try? > >Kurt > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > > >