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Thanks, Tom! I agree. I'll probably get flamed but... I think that if more of us would remember that multi-use areas are not Motocross tracks and back roads are not Super-bike tracks, the anti-motorcycle sentiment we have all witnessed would subside. I am amazed at times how unsafe and inconsiderate some folks ride on public streets and public lands. It's not surprising that some folks feel threatened and want to tighten regulations (or close forest roads???). Could you imagine the anti-equestrian movement that would rise up if it suddenly became popular to gallop horses through campgrounds and down hiking trails? I have never seen it happen and the only complaint I have heard against horse riders was due to the non-California compliant exhaust system on the horse. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Tom Vervaeke [SMTP:tom_vervaeke@...] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 6:55 AM To: KLR-650 List Subject: [DSN_klr650] The benefits of the stock KLR exhaust Hello All: I am always tempted to upgrade the exhaust of any bike I get to gain more power, etc.. I think on the KLR I will leave it stock. A small thing happened this week on a ride that made me lean in that direction. Was out riding Tuesday afternoon in an area here in Colorado that has both forest service roads (FSnnn) and forest service trails. I was out just poking around in 1st and 2nd gear exploring a new area a bit. You know, the KLR at 2-3-4K rpms is pretty darn quiet. There were a lot of other 2 and 4 stroke bikes in one area. Most had aftermarket exhausts or were just a lot louder. I could hear them a good 1/4 mile away at times. Came upon several couples that were hiking. I had stopped for some water out of my saddlebags when one of them walked up and THANKED me for having a quiet exhaust. I didn't know what to say so just nodded. Afterwards, on my ride home I reflected on this a bit. It made me feel good that my restraint (stock exhaust) had in some way made someone else have a better day. Most of the riding I plan to do with my KLR will be light forest service roads when I'm off the pavement. I don't need any more power out of the KLR at my ability level. I knew the KLR was sort of Miss Piggy (heresy I know) and knew the power was merely adequate. So will keep it quiet and perhaps make a better reputation for us bikers. One question: The exhaust pipe has 3 different places where there are small heats shields. Each has 2 phillips head screws. Every few rides I get my mondo-screwdriver out to tighten them. They still get loose a bit. Should I use some blue locktite on them? I don't think I'll ever remove them for anything. Right? Wrong? Thanks, Tom V A13 ===== ========================================================= Tom Vervaeke, Colorado, USA |Email: tom_vervaeke@... '99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 1.8K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home) '96 BMW R1100GS, Black 59K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work) '95 Honda F3 MRA Novice #718|Ph: 719-650-4578 (cell/riding) '95 Honda Cub EZ90S Pit Bike|Ph: 800-539-8361 (pager) ========================================================= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

THANKS TOM AND JOE I agree with both of you and you should know that there are many of us who support those views. It really just comes down to common courtesy most of the time. This attitude of "to hell with everyone else" is just a symptom of increasing rudeness all over the country. (don't get me started) Anyway, motorcyclists have a hard enough time with image, and the hot dogging superbikers, loud ass Harley yuppies, and rude, loud dirtbikers are hurting everyone. I think that most KLR riders, in my experience, are reasonable people and do not knowingly add to the negative image of motorcyclists. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Percival [mailto:djpercival@...] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:56 AM To: 'tom_vervaeke@...'; KLR-650 List Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] The benefits of the stock KLR exhaust Thanks, Tom! I agree. I'll probably get flamed but... I think that if more of us would remember that multi-use areas are not Motocross tracks and back roads are not Super-bike tracks, the anti-motorcycle sentiment we have all witnessed would subside. I am amazed at times how unsafe and inconsiderate some folks ride on public streets and public lands. It's not surprising that some folks feel threatened and want to tighten regulations (or close forest roads???). Could you imagine the anti-equestrian movement that would rise up if it suddenly became popular to gallop horses through campgrounds and down hiking trails? I have never seen it happen and the only complaint I have heard against horse riders was due to the non-California compliant exhaust system on the horse. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Tom Vervaeke [SMTP:tom_vervaeke@...] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 6:55 AM To: KLR-650 List Subject: [DSN_klr650] The benefits of the stock KLR exhaust Hello All: I am always tempted to upgrade the exhaust of any bike I get to gain more power, etc.. I think on the KLR I will leave it stock. A small thing happened this week on a ride that made me lean in that direction. Was out riding Tuesday afternoon in an area here in Colorado that has both forest service roads (FSnnn) and forest service trails. I was out just poking around in 1st and 2nd gear exploring a new area a bit. You know, the KLR at 2-3-4K rpms is pretty darn quiet. There were a lot of other 2 and 4 stroke bikes in one area. Most had aftermarket exhausts or were just a lot louder. I could hear them a good 1/4 mile away at times. Came upon several couples that were hiking. I had stopped for some water out of my saddlebags when one of them walked up and THANKED me for having a quiet exhaust. I didn't know what to say so just nodded. Afterwards, on my ride home I reflected on this a bit. It made me feel good that my restraint (stock exhaust) had in some way made someone else have a better day. Most of the riding I plan to do with my KLR will be light forest service roads when I'm off the pavement. I don't need any more power out of the KLR at my ability level. I knew the KLR was sort of Miss Piggy (heresy I know) and knew the power was merely adequate. So will keep it quiet and perhaps make a better reputation for us bikers. One question: The exhaust pipe has 3 different places where there are small heats shields. Each has 2 phillips head screws. Every few rides I get my mondo-screwdriver out to tighten them. They still get loose a bit. Should I use some blue locktite on them? I don't think I'll ever remove them for anything. Right? Wrong? Thanks, Tom V A13 ===== ========================================================= Tom Vervaeke, Colorado, USA |Email: tom_vervaeke@... '99 Kawi KLR-650 A13, 1.8K |Ph: 719-495-2152 (home) '96 BMW R1100GS, Black 59K |Ph: 719-590-2133 (work) '95 Honda F3 MRA Novice #718|Ph: 719-650-4578 (cell/riding) '95 Honda Cub EZ90S Pit Bike|Ph: 800-539-8361 (pager) ========================================================= __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

I agree...especially off-road on public lands. I have a moderately loud unpacked 18-disc Trapp on my Tengai (which is 90% street), but I don't gun it in the neighborhoods. It's actually pretty tame at low throttle settings. I decided to stick with the stock can on my A2 (which is 75% woods) to stay on the good side of the rangers and for stealth in areas where I might not be legal. Mark B2 A2 At 7:55 AM -0700 8/18/2000, Joe Percival wrote:

>Thanks, Tom! I agree. > >I'll probably get flamed but... > >I think that if more of us would remember that multi-use areas are not >Motocross tracks and back roads are not Super-bike tracks, the >anti-motorcycle sentiment we have all witnessed would subside. I am amazed >at times how unsafe and inconsiderate some folks ride on public streets and >public lands. It's not surprising that some folks feel threatened and want >to tighten regulations (or close forest roads???).

I agree even though I now have an IDS Quiet on my KLR. I got it used so I didn't pay too much. Should the opportunity every present itself to purchase a can that gives good quiet sound and doesn't whistle I'll be the first in line for it but that stock tweet drove me nuts. I am thinking the Laser ProDuro might be the ticket but I'm not sure. I saw a street bike go by yesterday and I was amazed that I could hear the chain more than the exhaust at 30 mph. In my opinion that's the way to go. I've 'snuck' up on wild turkey and deer on a number of occassions in the woods but with this pipe I think those days are over. Jim (getting off the 'louder is safer' train) Jackson II A13 - South Carolina

>Afterwards, on my ride home I reflected on this a bit. It >made me feel good that my restraint (stock exhaust) had in some >way made someone else have a better day.

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> Everything you guys said. Yeah! And with the stock system you can run > "stealth mode". > > Biker Mike (flying under the radar) >

Do cats chase you guys with tweety exhaust?? MotorMark

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> Everything you guys said. Yeah! And with the stock system you can run > "stealth mode". > > Biker Mike (flying under the radar) >

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>Do cats chase you guys with tweety exhaust??

it's called cat-baiting. illegal in many states. gears, ye wilde ryder -- wallace@... 99 zx-9r "blue bayou" 98 vtr-1000f "stormy" zwallace@... 86 cr-250 "dirt devil" 00 sv-650 "zipper" "& you were using your friends as a berm." -- RP 83 v65 magna "nasty" FoJ#002...AMA#456832...JHLO#002...COP#000...CCS#SW969...Support the RKBA

>It's only what you do to the cats that's illegal ;-]

that's easy to get around -- i make the dog do all the work. gears, ye wilde ryder -- wallace@... 99 zx-9r "blue bayou" 98 vtr-1000f "stormy" zwallace@... 86 cr-250 "dirt devil" 00 sv-650 "zipper" "& you were using your friends as a berm." -- RP 83 v65 magna "nasty" FoJ#002...AMA#456832...JHLO#002...COP#000...CCS#SW969...Support the RKBA

 

>Do cats chase you guys with tweety exhaust?? it's called cat-baiting.  illegal in many states. gears, ye wilde ryder -- I thought that's what jogging in the woods was for? Todd A9