--- In
DSN_klr650@egroups.com, Jim Cunningham wrote:
> For those of you who use MS Outlook you may or may not know that
you can set
> up fairly elaborate filters that can greatly reduce spam. For
instance you
> can have messages with $,free,special etc... in the subject line or
the
> message text automatically deleted. I am not sure if Outlook
Express has
> the capability.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Anderson [mailto:standerson@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 17:14 PM
> To:
DSN_klr650@egroups.com
> Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: spam is litter nklr, was $250 Line Of
Credit
>
>
> Brian,
>
> I for one, do NOT want my email to become as USELESS as my front
mailbox. I
> do NOT want any UNSOLICITED email, faxes, telephone calls, or snail
mail for
> that matter. It is NOT a first amendment issue. Restricting
content of a
> web site or newspaper may be, but me restricting access to MY ears
or eyes
> (not YOURS) is my RIGHT.
>
> If I have to weed through more junk than content, it becomes a
waste of my
> time and money. I too have been in this business forever, and I get
> extremely frustrated by unsolicited anything whether it is
advertising, a
> survey, or simply the weather.
>
>
> ------------------
> If spammers have their way, most of the messages will be spam.
> ------------------
>
>
>
> I had to explain to my local newspaper company some of this. They
kept
> delivering a "Wednesday special" that I had in the past let them
know over
> and over I didn't want. It's like this: I don't read it, but I am
still
> responsible for throwing it away, I will get a nasty-gram from the
city if I
> let them pile up. From my perspective then, they are littering in
my yard,
> hardly a first amendment protection issue. Spam is no different
from my
> perspective. Spammers are littering my email server and clients,
and I have
> to spend MY time deleting them, and MY money to have adequate
resources in
> my systems to get the items I want in addition to their junk. I
will fight
> it every step. I finally got the newspaper to stop, by letting
them know
> that if I got one more piece of their trash in my yard, I was going
to take
> some nasty, smelly garbage that I produced, and drop it in their
lobby. I
> should be able to this under first amendment if they can leave
their trash
> in my yard. I wish I could do this to spammers, even if
figuratively, but
> their email return addresses are seldom ever real, a good
indication of
> their intent. Typical spammers steal an AOL logon, get a hotmail
address,
> and spam away.
>
> If the first amendment is supposed to protect people in allowing
them to
> abuse MY resources that I pay for, than it is high time to rewrite
or repeal
> that amendment.
>
> Maybe we need to set up email for people like yourself that
encourage spam.
> I don't want it, and I can't see what possible benefit to
me OR
society
> there is by having to deal with it.
>
>
>
> Steve (anti spam) Anderson
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In
DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Shepard,Brian" wrote:
> > Please don't take this the wrong way. I have been a Systems
> > Programmer/Administrator for almost 20 years and spam is nothing
new. Its
> > been going on way before the Internet as we know it now. I used
to deal
> with
> > it a lot way back in the Eighties (remember BitNet anyone?). What
puzzles
> me
> > is how enraged people get about spam now. Sometimes I wonder if
people get
> > angry because it's fashionable. Somebody sees what they think is a
> computer
> > pro getting angry about spam so they get angry when they're
really not
> > angry. They want people to think they're cool because they get
angry about
> > spam. There is this little known secret in the IT community. Its
called
> > DELETE. Its really cool. You just delete a piece of mail you
don't want to
> > read.
> >
> > I'm more concerned about people "protecting me" from spam than
people
> > spamming me. Think about it. This is a First Amendment issue. I'd
rather
> > choose for myself weather or not I want to read a piece of mail.
Now I
> know
> > that the intentions of the list management is sincere and I'm not
asking
> you
> > to NOT block spam. I just think people need to think more about
the
> issues.
> > Its very simple to delete. You can't delete something that's not
there.
> > FREEDOM!
> >
> > -Brian Shepard
> > A13
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fred Hink [mailto:moabmc@l...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:43 PM
> > To:
DSN_klr650@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit
> >
> >
> > Sick 'em ARNE!!
> >
> > Maybe it might be a good time to change your subscription options
to have
> > you approve new subscribers before they can post to our list.
> >
> > Fred (I like Spam for lunch)
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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