fyi
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2000 6:20 pm
For those of you who use MS Outlook you may or may not know that you can set
up fairly elaborate filters that can greatly reduce spam. For instance you
can have messages with $,free,special etc... in the subject line or the
message text automatically deleted. I am not sure if Outlook Express has
the capability.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Anderson [mailto:standerson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 17:14 PM
To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com
Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: spam is litter nklr, was $250 Line Of Credit
Brian,
I for one, do NOT want my email to become as USELESS as my front mailbox. I
do NOT want any UNSOLICITED email, faxes, telephone calls, or snail mail for
that matter. It is NOT a first amendment issue. Restricting content of a
web site or newspaper may be, but me restricting access to MY ears or eyes
(not YOURS) is my RIGHT.
If I have to weed through more junk than content, it becomes a waste of my
time and money. I too have been in this business forever, and I get
extremely frustrated by unsolicited anything whether it is advertising, a
survey, or simply the weather.
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If spammers have their way, most of the messages will be spam.
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I had to explain to my local newspaper company some of this. They kept
delivering a "Wednesday special" that I had in the past let them know over
and over I didn't want. It's like this: I don't read it, but I am still
responsible for throwing it away, I will get a nasty-gram from the city if I
let them pile up. From my perspective then, they are littering in my yard,
hardly a first amendment protection issue. Spam is no different from my
perspective. Spammers are littering my email server and clients, and I have
to spend MY time deleting them, and MY money to have adequate resources in
my systems to get the items I want in addition to their junk. I will fight
it every step. I finally got the newspaper to stop, by letting them know
that if I got one more piece of their trash in my yard, I was going to take
some nasty, smelly garbage that I produced, and drop it in their lobby. I
should be able to this under first amendment if they can leave their trash
in my yard. I wish I could do this to spammers, even if figuratively, but
their email return addresses are seldom ever real, a good indication of
their intent. Typical spammers steal an AOL logon, get a hotmail address,
and spam away.
If the first amendment is supposed to protect people in allowing them to
abuse MY resources that I pay for, than it is high time to rewrite or repeal
that amendment.
Maybe we need to set up email for people like yourself that encourage spam.
I don t want it, and I can t see what possible benefit to me OR society
there is by having to deal with it.
Steve (anti spam) Anderson
--- In DSN_klr650@egroups.com, "Shepard,Brian" wrote: > Please don't take this the wrong way. I have been a Systems > Programmer/Administrator for almost 20 years and spam is nothing new. Its > been going on way before the Internet as we know it now. I used to deal with > it a lot way back in the Eighties (remember BitNet anyone?). What puzzles me > is how enraged people get about spam now. Sometimes I wonder if people get > angry because it's fashionable. Somebody sees what they think is a computer > pro getting angry about spam so they get angry when they're really not > angry. They want people to think they're cool because they get angry about > spam. There is this little known secret in the IT community. Its called > DELETE. Its really cool. You just delete a piece of mail you don't want to > read. > > I'm more concerned about people "protecting me" from spam than people > spamming me. Think about it. This is a First Amendment issue. I'd rather > choose for myself weather or not I want to read a piece of mail. Now I know > that the intentions of the list management is sincere and I'm not asking you > to NOT block spam. I just think people need to think more about the issues. > Its very simple to delete. You can't delete something that's not there. > FREEDOM! > > -Brian Shepard > A13 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Hink [mailto:moabmc@l...] > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 2:43 PM > To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] $250 Line Of Credit > > > Sick 'em ARNE!! > > Maybe it might be a good time to change your subscription options to have > you approve new subscribers before they can post to our list. > > Fred (I like Spam for lunch) > Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com