[dsn_klr650] we're all a little different

[Ted Palmer]

AFIEDLER@... wrote:

> The following post was on a Mercedes ML List I belong to. Thought it might > be of interest here also. > Subj: K & N filters > > To: John M. Saturday, January 21, 1995 5:14:10 PM > >From: George Morrison

[...] I wonder what K&N had to say about this. This appears to be about as scientific as a user test can get. Mister_T

[Chris Rivers]

I have worked at a cement plant for the last 10 years, we make dust out of rocks. For the last three years I have been driving a 65 ton quarry truck it hauls 65 tons, fully loaded it weighs approx. 250,000 lbs ) and have spent alot of time around the garage and with the mechanics. The plant is around 40 years old and has always used paper filters and still does, my truck cost about $750,000, they buy the best filters available to protect them. Cement dust is hellishly abrasive. Renn A14

----- Original Message ----- From: Karl Raupp To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:50 PM Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: K & N Air Filters > Before anyone believes this, as with anything, you need to ask some basic > questions before taking it as gospel; > > - why no email addy for the tester/original poster? > - why is the company with the fleet of vehicles not named? > - how was testing done to verify wear rates before, during and after testing > the K&N filters? > - how did the testing co-incide with the company's oil change schedule? > - after seeing the K&N's not perform well, why did he still use one in his > personal company truck? > - in that personal company truck, was a K&N filter used for the complete > 85,000 miles since it was new from the dealership? Probably not, so how > long? > - do K&N make air filters for large commercial vehicles like front end > loaders and vehicles with cummins V-12 engines? I tried checking on their > webpage but it kept crashing my computer. > - were the K&N filters being oiled properly? What checks were put into > place to guarantee this? > > I could go on but I think the point is made. I'm NOT a believer in K&N > filters and would not put one in any vehicle I care about, but I put zero > weight on those 'facts'. > > Keeping my mind open... > Karl > > > >I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test > > >was hoping that alternative filters would work as > > >everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good > > >$85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away > > >each week per machine... > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >

[Denzfeat@aol.com]

I was under the impression (perhaps due to K&N advertising) that most desert racers use K&N filters on both two and four-wheel vehicles. If these filters allowed so much fine grit through the element I think this would compromise reliability in longer events, like the Baja 1000. What do they use in Paris/Dakar? I have run K&N's in all my two/three/four wheeled vehicles (except for the KLR, haven't gotten around to it yet) for the time that K&N's have been readily available. While this is only anecdotal, I have not noticed any top-end wear out of the norm. I have kept several big-bore road-burners more than 50,000 miles with better than normal service and no abnormal oil consumption or other signs of abrasive top-end wear. Pete the Streak of clean filtered air

[racing43rd@aol.com]

I know I'm repeating myself but 15 years and 125,000 miles with absolutely no problems caused by excess wear has to count for something. I will NEVER use anything but KN filters. Ed Windsor Oh

[Robert T. Heywood]

You go man!!! Harry Thames wrote:

> I impress the ladies with my bald head and "KLR" green teeth. > Harry Thames > South Carolina > > > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... > Let's keep this list SPAM free! > > Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Karl Raupp]

I'm happy that you're happy, but I have 2 problems with using K&N; - I do not understand how it can let so much air through, but still filter as well. - If they were as good as advertised, then why aren't they used as OEM on every gas/diesel powered vehicle out there. Hell, the leaner condition they would naturally allow would make it easier to smog certify said vehicles, correct? I'll stick with my paper and oil foam thank you very much. To each there own though, if you're happy, then keep using them! TTYL Karl

>I know I'm repeating myself but 15 years and 125,000 miles with absolutely >no >problems caused by excess wear has to count for something. I will NEVER use >anything but KN filters. > >Ed >Windsor Oh

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[TimHiles@aol.com]

In a message dated 8/12/00 6:19:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, garagedoor79@... writes: << If they were as good as advertised, then why aren't they used as OEM on every gas/diesel powered vehicle out there. >> Maybe the same reason top of the line Z rated Michelins aren't OEM...... cost?