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[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2000 1:24 pm
by Mark
At 4:08 PM +0000 6/22/2000, Brad Davis wrote:
>Jeez, I am just about ready to buy an A9/2600 miles. Is this problem
>statistically significant or is it random?
I wouldn't sweat it. I think KGrife's bike had things brewing if it
was consuming so much oil under 15K miles which led to an accelerated
demise. However, you can make a big deal out of it to try to move
the seller down on the price.
Mark
B2
A2
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2000 3:43 pm
by Krgrife@aol.com
In a message dated 6/22/00 11:26:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mjv2@...
writes:
<< I wouldn't sweat it. I think KGrife's bike had things brewing if it
was consuming so much oil under 15K miles which led to an accelerated
demise. >>
The oil consumption and balancer chain problems are completely separate
issues, if you can explain to me how bad rings can cause the balancer
mechanism to fail I would be very interested.
Kurt G
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2000 4:15 pm
by ephilride@aol.com
Krgrife@... writes:
> The oil consumption and balancer chain problems are completely separate
> issues, if you can explain to me how bad rings can cause the balancer
> mechanism to fail I would be very interested.
> Kurt G
Could it be that the your bike has spent most of the 15K miles in lower
gears, at higher revs, been subjected to jack rabbit starts where you dump
the clutch at 9K and then proceeded to ride on the rear wheel while
simultaneously up shifting as you ride into the sunset? You see, when the
KLR is ridden between 37 and 89 degrees above horizontal, cylinder
lubrication and cam chain life could be connected and slightly
compromised................ Just a thought ;~`)
Knot
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2000 4:46 pm
by Krgrife@aol.com
In a message dated 6/22/00 2:16:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ephilride@... writes:
<<
Could it be that the your bike has spent most of the 15K miles in lower
gears, at higher revs, been subjected to jack rabbit starts where you dump
the clutch at 9K and then proceeded to ride on the rear wheel while
simultaneously up shifting as you ride into the sunset? You see, when the
KLR is ridden between 37 and 89 degrees above horizontal, cylinder
lubrication and cam chain life could be connected and slightly
compromised................ Just a thought ;~`) >>
My riding buddies would get a chuckle out of that one, my riding style is
rather sedate, perhaps as befits a 56 year old rider. I rarely go above
6/6500 rpm on the KLR because power wise there isn't much point. I use 5500
rpm as my highway upper limit for distance riding. If I do a wheelie it is
by accident.
Kurt G.
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2000 6:21 pm
by Mark
At 5:15 PM -0400 6/22/2000, ephilride@... wrote:
>Krgrife@... writes:
>
>> The oil consumption and balancer chain problems are completely separate
>> issues, if you can explain to me how bad rings can cause the balancer
>> mechanism to fail I would be very interested.
>> Kurt G
>
>Could it be that the your bike has spent most of the 15K miles in lower
>gears, at higher revs, been subjected to jack rabbit starts where you dump
>the clutch at 9K and then proceeded to ride on the rear wheel while
>simultaneously up shifting as you ride into the sunset? You see, when the
>KLR is ridden between 37 and 89 degrees above horizontal, cylinder
>lubrication and cam chain life could be connected and slightly
>compromised................ Just a thought ;~`)
>Knot
Bad rings don't mean that's the only thing that's worn.
My thought was that the oil was neglected by a previous owner at some
point or that abrasive particles entered the crankcase and were
allowed to circulate for long periods therefore wearing the entire
engine.
Mark
B2
A2
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2000 6:53 pm
by Krgrife@aol.com
In a message dated 6/22/00 4:24:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mjv2@...
writes:
<< Bad rings don't mean that's the only thing that's worn.
My thought was that the oil was neglected by a previous owner at some
point or that abrasive particles entered the crankcase and were
allowed to circulate for long periods therefore wearing the entire
engine. >>
No, this is a simple matter. The adjuster bolt and spring system on the
early KLR's was badly designed. We can argue this forever but there is a
reason that Kawi upgraded those parts. My original post was simply to
describe what I found when I took my engine apart. I saw the same thing in
my buddy's engine and Elden has several more that are the same. When you
actually look at 5 or 6 adjuster arms that have been distorted in the same
way because of the lack of a small washer in the original design you get a
different perspective. I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I
did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue and I
just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from having
what happened to me happen to them.
Kurt G.
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2000 7:13 pm
by Kurt Simpson
> different perspective. I'm not going to go any further with this thread.
I
> did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue
and I
> just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from
having
> what happened to me happen to them.
> Kurt G.
I think you're right with this decision Kurt. You're doing a service for the
people that have been listening...I spoke with Elden yesterday and
encouraged him on the project and said that Dual Sport News would like to do
an article on your work. Is Vey de la Cruz doing the engine work?
Kurt Simpson
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2000 4:03 pm
by Bogdan Swider
> I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I
> did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue
> and I
> just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from
> having
> what happened to me happen to them.
> Kurt G.
>
I certainly hope this doesn't mean you won't keep us posted about how the
job is progressing. Bogdan, who since he's going to Guatemala in August
(alone as usual, by choice) and will be in Canada much of
July......would..try to pick up a balancer chain North of the border and
feel better going South....if...he had the knowledge to do the job.
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2000 9:19 am
by Skip Faulkner
> > I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I
> > did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety issue
> > and I
> > just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from
> > having
> > what happened to me happen to them.
> > Kurt G.
> >
Kurt, it was very appropriate and informative, not to mention, worth
listening to and an eye opener. This is the kind of info we need to keep up
on. Just because I`m set in my ways and hard headed doesn`t mean others are
so resistant to good advice. Keep it up.
Skip
[dsn_klr650] klr high mileage worries, rear wheel alignment
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2000 11:40 am
by Conall O'Brien
>From: "Skip Faulkner"
>To: "'KLR List'" DSN_klr650@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] KLR High mileage worries, Rear Wheel Alignment
>Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 23:47:52 -0600
>
> > > I'm not going to go any further with this thread. I
> > > did my original post as I stated then because I feel its a safety
>issue
> > > and I
> > > just wanted to pass on my experience in the hope of saving others from
> > > having
> > > what happened to me happen to them.
> > > Kurt G.
> > >
>
>
>Kurt, it was very appropriate and informative, not to mention, worth
>listening to and an eye opener. This is the kind of info we need to keep up
>on. Just because I`m set in my ways and hard headed doesn`t mean others are
>so resistant to good advice. Keep it up.
>
>Skip
>
Kurt,listers,
Same here, I also am thankful for Kurt Grife's info. Keep it coming and I
may have something to add to the discussion in the next month or so.
Conall
81,900 miles
Balancer parts on order
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