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Jeffrey L. Walker
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[dsn_klr650] re:new virus joke (nklr) long

Post by Jeffrey L. Walker » Fri Jun 16, 2000 12:22 am

> Hey Arne, > For what it's worth, I'm with you on this one. I didn't think the post
from
> RM was funny at all. Some sort of 'insider' joke for computer industry > folks? Not everyone is a programmer or consultant to Microsoft. In my > ignorance I didn't know if this was for real or not and after that Happy99 > business a few days ago,this latest thing scared the crap out of > me.Thank-you for continuing to look out for those of us who aren't > 'experts'. > Keep up the good work! > Steve Pye > A7 >
OK, here I step into it. If you had read the joke, you would realize how ridiculous it was. "Please delete all the files on your hard drive" Come on now people, lighten up! You don't have to be a supergeek to get it. As for viruses, like the Happy99, (Has anyone actually seen that one work? You have to manually execute it (double click), and some computer graphic fireworks go off on your screen and it says "Happy 1999!" as it came out on new years, 99. Pretty benign, except it then inserted itself into your address book and emailed itself randomly to your contacts. I can't remember if it came out before the Melissa virus or after, but it was also really easy to fix and didn't corrupt any data.) anyway....Viruses aren't the end of the world like the media would like to make them out to be. They are just a royal pain in the ass. There is no such thing as a virus that will "destroy your hard drive" as so many fake warnings have claimed. They will corrupt your data though. If you can't get rid of one, then take a deep breath, and reformat your hard drive and reload all of your software, and then your backed up data. If you don't back up your important data (all of it.) on a regular basis, then you really deserve what happens, virus or no virus. Hard disks fail all the time. Data gets irreparably corrupted all the time. The answer is tried and true, back up your data! The saying goes, the amount that you need to back up is the amount of data you are willing to lose since the last time you backed up. Most people use tape drives to back up, I personally use a second hard drive in my system, as it is much faster. (It usually starts backing up in the background when I'm working every hour or so. For important reports, I also make a copy onto my zip drive.) Believe it or not, especially if you install and remove programs from your system all the time, every now and then you should periodically reformat your hard drive and reload Windows. At the college, they do it every semester. Get virus protection software like McAfee (which I use as you can download new DAT files for life as they make them.), and I check for new DAT files by McAfee at least once a week (this too I have programmed to run automatically). And make sure to set your virus protection software to do a complete scan on a regular interval. More insidious than a virus is a worm or a Trojan horse, and those are what I fear. The reason is because these are designed to search out your hard drive for your private information, then send it out online. A virus is like a treatable social disease, but a worm or Trojan horse is like AIDS. But that is another topic really. For those of you who this is all totally obvious, I apologize. But it seems that there are some novice surfers here who need some schooling. Jeff

Arne
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[dsn_klr650] re:new virus joke (nklr) long

Post by Arne » Fri Jun 16, 2000 1:16 am

[b]Subject: [/b]Re: [DSN_klr650] Re:New Virus Joke (nklr) LONG > Hey Arne, > For what it's worth, I'm with you on this one. I didn't think the post from > RM was funny at all. Some sort of 'insider' joke for computer industry > folks? Not everyone is a programmer or consultant to Microsoft. In my > ignorance I didn't know if this was for real or not and after that Happy99 > business a few days ago,this latest thing scared the crap out of > me.Thank-you for continuing to look out for those of us who aren't > 'experts'. > Keep up the good work! > Steve Pye > A7 >
  [b]-----Original Message-----[/b] [b]From: [/b]Jeffrey L. Walker OK, here I step into it.  Try rinsing it off under the tap... should get most of it off. If you don't back up your important data (all of it.) on a regular basis, then you really deserve what happens, virus or no virus.  "Deserve" what happens?  What kind of twisted karma philosophy does this fall under?  Unless someone is intentionally doing bad things to another person they don't "deserve" anything... For those of you who this is all totally obvious, I apologize.  Why start apologizing now?  You have been verbosely repeating information since day one that you never apologized for before. But it seems that there are some novice surfers here who need some schooling. You make this sound like a bad thing...  Whatever. BTW... Thanks Steve. Arne

Jeffrey L. Walker
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[dsn_klr650] re:new virus joke (nklr) long

Post by Jeffrey L. Walker » Fri Jun 16, 2000 1:44 am

If you don't back up your important data (all of it.) on a regular basis, then you really deserve what happens, virus or no virus. 
"Deserve" what happens?  What kind of twisted karma philosophy does this fall under?  Unless someone is intentionally doing bad things to another person they don't "deserve" anything...   OK, Arne, I seen to have really gotten on your bad side, so let me explain.  What kind of philosophy?  Nothing but the honest truth, learned by me the hard way after losing hundreds of hours of hard work on no less than four separate occasions (once by a virus, three by crashes).  Who could I blame or point the finger at?  Nobody but myself for not backing up my data.  Computers fail.  Data gets lost.  Life goes on.  I understand you had some problems of your own with your own system recently, and believe me I know the frustration you must have had.  But really, the guy was just trying to tell a joke, funny or not, appropriate or not, and people reacted like he just committed a felony, not just a faux pas.  And if I have to offend people in order to get them to think about protecting their data and time, to learn from my mistakes, then so be it.   If you're still pissed at me we could just do like my friends do; slug it out behind the bar and then buy each other beers afterward.   Jeff   ....Did I ever tell you guys about the last bar fight I was in?....Well you see there I was, minding my own business.....

billmonahan
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[dsn_klr650] re:new virus joke (nklr) long

Post by billmonahan » Fri Jun 16, 2000 8:13 am

Virus jokes are a dumb idea.
 
I'm wondering if we should have a "smartest man in the world" competition.
 
I could guess who'd show up to compete.
 
Let's stick to motorcycles, miles, dirt roads, travel, female rangers, tires, et cetera..

Sarah Barwig
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[dsn_klr650] re:new virus joke (nklr) long

Post by Sarah Barwig » Fri Jun 16, 2000 11:53 am

At 06:12 AM 6/16/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Virus jokes are a dumb idea. > >I'm wondering if we should have a "smartest man in the world" competition. > >I could guess who'd show up to compete. > >Let's stick to motorcycles, miles, dirt roads, travel, female rangers, >tires, et cetera..
Yeah, let's discuss female rangers. That seems like a nice smart topic... Don't feel like you have to get all PC. Just remember that some of the topics are things you'll enjoy, and some of the topics are things other people will enjoy. I'd heard the honor system virus joke before, and it was told better the other time I saw it. I personally thought it was hysterical the first time. By the time it hit this list, it'd gotten a little old... Just my $0.02 ---o&>o--- Sarah Barwig sarah@...

k650dsn@aol.com
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[dsn_klr650] re:new virus joke (nklr) long

Post by k650dsn@aol.com » Fri Jun 16, 2000 12:29 pm

In a message dated Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:54:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Sarah Barwig writes:
>>
Yeah, let's discuss female rangers. That seems like a nice smart topic...
>>
Let's just have a politically correct list so all the sensitive people can hang out and sing Kumbaya. Geeze. Gino

George Basinet
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klr - sprocket holder

Post by George Basinet » Fri Jun 16, 2000 12:36 pm

Gang, I got a new stainless steel sprocket holder and shims from Jake at the Get-Together. I don't see how the srocket holder holds the front sprocket on. The holder is still only attached to the sprocket. Also where do the shims go? Between the sprocket and the case or in the inside of the case? Thanks George (He who attacks road graders) Escondido, CA

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