moab review

[Mark]

LOL, well stated Sarah. Mark B2 A2

[Jeffrey L. Walker]

> Umm. I'm not a mac person, but I do have to question a couple of things in > that last sentence. Inferior? Ahem, Macintosh processors usually have a > higher speed than the best thing money can buy by Intel.

Not so. They don't have higher clock speeds, they just use a lot more (expensive) L2 cache in their CPU. Besides, who uses Intel? AMD is where it's at. See: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2495427,00.html Not trying to say

> that Intel is hard to beat or anything. But, frankly, Macintosh stuff is > not usually inferior.

Inferior monitors and graphics accelerators (Does anyone make a 3D accellerator for the Mac?) (Ever benchmarked a mac for 3D and CAD?) , inferior economic choices for any upgrade one wishes to make.

>Proprietary OS? Well, as you point out, you're > trapped in the MicroSlime evil empire. Sounds pretty proprietary to me if > you want to break free, but can't seem to do it. Linux can be run on a > Macintosh just as easily as it can be run on a PC. It's just that the

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> software that comes with the hard drive is a lot easier to use than some > other kernel you have to install and give up all your familiar programs

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Last I checked, on a PC you can still run DR. DOS, UNIX, OS/2, Sun, and yes, Windows. I was actually happy with DOS and win 3.11, but my wife is newer to computors and likes Win 95. I have seen a Mac run Linux, and Win 95, but both times that was through a mac kernal. Hey, I might be trapped in Windows, but I like it and have very few complaints about it.

> Office sucks. It's got insanely high overhead (more overhead than emacs > counts as insanely high in my book), Excel isn't all that great a > spreadsheet, and if it's got a flight simulator in the code, that seems a > little, ummm, over the top.

Yeah, I actually much prefer Lotus 1-2-3 and Lotus Office Suite in general, but I have to stay compatable with my school and other people I collaborate with, and Office is the best integrated software to work with for that. I have projects that use Word, Excel, Mathcad, Photo and Equation Editor all in the same report, and I don't know that Lotus can do that as easily. Actually, I know that it can't, as I ran into problems importing stuff from Mathcad into a Wordpro document. Hey, I'm not a geek. (No offense to you programers out there.) I'm a user, not a code writer, (Although I used to be a gamer and I'm taking my second C++ class right now.) so I don't really care how it works, so long as it works and works well. I haven't run into a single problem with Office 2000 (yet that is, but I did have a few with Office 95). For the last 6 months, I've been having to generate at least 2 reports per week, averaging about 20 pages per, with charts, tables and figures, and all while using Office. Sure, its bloated, but with a 20Gb hard drive selling for under $150 these days does it really matter? (I'm also running it from CD on my laptop.) The thing I hate is that I can no longer transfer documents doing the floppy shuffle, and have to use a Zip drive.

> Frankly, the smugness of Macintosh users, and the snotty tone they use > whenever there's a Windows virus, really mostly makes me want to become a > virus hacker and aim it at Macintosh and target that flabby market that > doesn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! Don't ever tell me I should use a > Macintosh. I use what I use, and I haven't caught a single computer virus > yet. And I've been online continuously since 1990. (Oh no, I have no life! > Must go riding...) >

Just make sure to name it "PC Virus Alert" and it will go real far!

[Bill Wright]

Gino, Fred, and Bob, Thanks for all of your efforts in making this the best Get-Together ever. The best of all: -- Performing Skip's fuel tank mod under his expert oversight. -- The steak dinner at the Old City Park -- Picking up various accessories dropped from Kurt's bike on the Schafer Trail. -- The chili dinner. -- The friendship of folks we only see once a year. -- Seeing ranger Alyssa in the flesh. The not quite as good: -- Because of our discussion with the BLM, the process of disorganizing our organized rides. -- The heat, quite a change from the snow I went through last year in Monticello on the way home. -- Did I mention it was HOT. Bill Wright Hotlanta, GA (but its a wet heat) Adventure Tourer - 98 KLR 650 - "Special K" - 36K miles Sport Tourer - 00 ST1100 - "KeSTrel" - 5K miles