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new to group,bike decision made!
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2000 1:07 am
by Peter Warmerdam
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[b]From: [/b]Peter Warmerdam
[b]To: [/b]DSN
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[b]Date: [/b]Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:51 PM
[b]Subject: [/b]new to group,bike decision made!
hello again.thank-you for replies.this comunicating back and forth on the internet is new for me,so here we go. I made my decision on my bike today. I didnt deal at Hole Shot D.J. Iwas dealing at CLearbrook Motorsports. I bought my last klr at Hole Shot. They have a Y2K model in blue/green/99, Today I ended up taking their last 99 instead,because he came down in price 4999.99 The green Y2K was 6200.00 , the Y2K bl/gr 5350.00 I figured I'd save a buck and chose the 99. I'm HAPPY! I'll be bringing the klr to Idaho. Can't wait. See you there.
Hey Arne, who's Agnes? The bl/green is in! Thank's, looking foward to tuesday!(pick up bike)
[dsn_klr650] nklr - hsc cl-12 and lt12, what is the catch!
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2000 8:05 am
by Tom Simpson
Jeff Walker wrote:
> >
> > Brad Davis wrote:
> >
> > Now on to my question . I had thought I had decided on a
> > > Shoei RF-
> > > 800 until I went to my local shop and tried on a HSC CL-12. It fit
> > > great and seemed high quality to my inexperienced eye. I know some of
> > > the other listers have HSC helmets and are satisfied with them. Well,
> > > what is the catch? The CL-12 is $140 and the RF-800 is $220 (from
> > >
www.helmet.shop). If it is only that HSC has lower advertising costs
> > > and chooses to pass them on to the consumer, please let me know, I
> > > rather get the HSC and save some $$$. Both helmets are Snell95/DOT
> > > rated so I am really curious about what the differences may be that
> > > would justify the 70% greater cost. Isn't it true that the HSC is
> > > built in Korea and the Shoei in the USA? I don't know for sure
> > > but
> > > possibly the difference is due to labor costs.
> >
> > You mean HJC, right?
> >
> > I dont know. My dealer says that "some people have Shoei heads and
> some
> > people have Arai heads". As it turns out, my XXXL bucket of a head is a
> HJC
> > head. The CL-12 (and the CL-0 it replaced) fit me perfectly, so thats what
> I
> > g owith. Never have tested them to destruction, I am happy to say but I
> have
> > a high degree of confidance in them, even though the XXXL size is not
> Snell
> > rated.
> >
> >
> > -Tom
>
> Personally, that Snell 95 rating is very important to me, as it implies a
> standard and testing method that the manufactured good must comply with for
> impact safety. (You can argue all you want about non-Snell helmets being
> just as good or better, but to me, an industry test standard is a test
> standard. Say you design and build pressure vessel, if it doesn't conform
> to A.S.M.E. Boiler Code, I won't buy it.) In any case, that is the reason
> why the HJC helmet costs less, because they didn't pay to have their product
> evaluated by the Snell foundation, and without the approval sticker, many
> motorcyclists won't buy it at the higher price that Snell approved helmets
> go for.
>
> I always go for the Snell helmet, I had a friend get seriously hurt after
> crashing with non approved lid, the dam thing just cracked and caved in, and
> he was in a comma for three days. Just my opinion, but I know I'm right!
It should be noted that all HJC CL-12 smaller than sixe XXXL are in fact
Snell 95 rated. Its just the XXXL that isnt. I dont know if it failed to pass
Snell testing or if they never submitted a shell that size to Snell to be tested
to begin with.
I will remain a HJC user, regardless.
-Tom
'96 KLR 650