Wilsons Sandbox

> A timeline: > 0) Bought Alpinestars, trouble shifting. Contemplated moving up one > spline. Too lazy, adapted. > 1) Toe of shifter (rubber covered) now appears to be bent towards front

of

> bike some, not a 90 degree anymore. > 2) Installed Moose skid plate, one of the pipe clamps prevented downshift > to first. Removed clamp. > 3) I've had a little trouble coming up short and missing second gear (see > number 4?) > 4) Noticed play in shifter assembly is allowing a nice gouge in the

engine

> casing from upshifting. > 5) Today while prepping for Moab, now the frame isn't allowing a

downshift

> to 1st, gouging the frame. > > I can't upshift, or downshift. I thought that the OEM shifter was

supposed

> to break, not bend? > Thinking of removing and bending the shifter to get me to Moab and pick up > an aftermarket from Fred? > > Any hints on bending, or.........how the shiftlever used to go down to 1st > but now hits frame?

It bends as it is breaking. I bought Alpinestars and couldn't "feel" the shift lever. A week ago Saturday, after some aggressive shifting, I found mine exhibiting symptoms much like those you describe above. Remembering stories from this list, I said it was breaking; my riding buddies didn't think so -- they thought it was only bending. I took it off in Blanding, Utah and it was breaking. It was 3/4 broken through at the weld. To make a long story short we got it welded and continued on but it still didn't work satisfactorily. I will replace it with an aftermarket item. Fred Hink in Moab sometimes has them in stock but if you break it on the way, you will be stranded unless you think of a temporary solution I couldn't think of. Verle Nelson Cedaredge, CO

No Kit should be without Vice Grips. LaterZ Dash

>Fred Hink in Moab sometimes has them in stock but if you break it on the >way, you will be stranded unless you think of a temporary solution I >couldn't think of. > >Verle Nelson >Cedaredge, CO

> No Kit should be without Vice Grips. >

I had Vice Grips. Have you tried Vice Grips as an emergency shift lever on a KLR650? I don't believe it can work and neither did the two "old pros" with me. Verle Nelson Cedaredge, CO

At 10:26 AM 6/5/2000 -0600, Verle Nelson wrote:

> > No Kit should be without Vice Grips. > > >I had Vice Grips. Have you tried Vice Grips as an emergency shift lever on a >KLR650? I don't believe it can work and neither did the two "old pros" with >me. > >Verle Nelson >Cedaredge, CO

Hi Verle, No... I just figured it would. They have saved me from walking in the past on other bikes. Can have ice-cream with my pie? LaterZ Dash

I had Vice Grips. Have you tried Vice Grips as an

> emergency shift lever on a > KLR650? I don't believe it can work and neither did > the two "old pros" with > me. > > Verle Nelson

Verle is right.....I don't think the vise grip would work, and nothing beats having that shifter in the saddlebags for peace of mind while traveling long distance. Anyone who has read anything about the KLR in preparation of ownership wilil be aware that the shifter is a piece of crap and will plan accordingly. BTW, vise grip is the correct term...."vice grip" is something else, perhaps something you do when you're not getting enough vice. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com

Come on now. With the vise grips, you shift the bike into second or even third gear, really slip the clutch to get started and up to speed, and then limp home as best as you can in your only gear. Jeff

> At 10:26 AM 6/5/2000 -0600, Verle Nelson wrote: > > > > No Kit should be without Vice Grips. > > > > >I had Vice Grips. Have you tried Vice Grips as an emergency shift lever

on a

> >KLR650? I don't believe it can work and neither did the two "old pros"

with

> >me. > > > >Verle Nelson > >Cedaredge, CO > > Hi Verle, > > No... I just figured it would. They have saved me from walking in the

past

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From: "Jeff Walker"

> Come on now. With the vise grips, you shift the bike into second or even > third gear, really slip the clutch to get started and up to speed, and

then

> limp home as best as you can in your only gear.

You try it on a difficult 4WD road. I'll watch. Verle Nelson Cedaredge, CO

At 7:48 AM -0600 6/6/2000, Verle Nelson wrote:

>From: "Jeff Walker" > > > Come on now. With the vise grips, you shift the bike into second or even > > third gear, really slip the clutch to get started and up to speed, and >then > > limp home as best as you can in your only gear. > >You try it on a difficult 4WD road. I'll watch. >

If you use the term "4WD road" it should be no sweat. Now if you use the term "goat trail" that might be another story. Mark B2 A2

Terry McCormack wrote: [...]

> 1) My KLR does not have an electric start, is there one available for the > 600? It seems that some 600's do have it.

The 1984 600A1 was kick only, all the 1985+ 600B1-9 series were electric and kick. The only practical way to get electric leg is to get a 600B. The cases were different, the alternator was different, the wiring harness was different.

> 2) does the 650 and the 600 share the same frame? In particular are the gas > tank mounts similar enough that the 650 tank could be put on the 600 W/O > major surgery.

Different frames. Dunno about the tanks, I've never heard of a 600 with a 650A tank.

> 3) Is there an online spec sheet for the 600, or a comparision spec sheet > for 600/650? ( I can't find one so far...)

You can find a table comparing gear ratios in the archives. As for engine specs, I'm too lazy to type them up right now. If you are really curious, you could get the base shop manual that covers the 600A and get the supplement that covers the 650A. Mister_T -- \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\ | RC17 KLR600 HGS130AMBC P430VAEM FreeBSD 2.2.5-R | | Team RC17 Australia http://replicant.apana.org.au/~viking/ | \|_________________________________________________________________|