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Maybe someone has mentioned this, but as I've been looking at helmets in catalogs/websites I've noticed that both of the "flip-face" helmets readily availible (Nolan N100 and Shoei Syncrotech/Duotech) always have DOT approval listed in the descriptions, BUT niether one has the SNELL95 approval. The other helmet models (Shoei at least) described on the same sites/catalogs show both DOT and Snell approvals in the descriptions. Perhaps this speaks of a safety issue with the hinged face? Does anyone that has one of these helmets have the SNELL95 sticker? Thanks, Mike Campbell A1 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Keener [mailto:keensurf@...] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 2:31 PM To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: More on Helmets IMHO, once you get past the DOT and Snell stickers, the biggest consideration is comfort. And so it doesn't matter if 1000 people recommend the Nolan or the Shoei, if it doesn't fit your head, it's the wrong helmet. It seems the manufacturers have a specific head in mind for their products. IOW, there are Shoei heads and Arai heads, etc. I have a Shoei head. I've tried Arais and others, but Shoeis fit me better. After comfort, other considerations are things like noise, weight, ventilation, etc. The only way to really tell is to go into a shop and try them on. If you have a good local shop, they may even let you take a test ride. Now, the dilemma is: should you buy from the shop that has spent the money on inventory and service to allow you to make a good decision, or do you go out and buy the helmet mail order for tons less money? TomK ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find long lost high school friends: http://click.egroups.com/1/4056/5/_/911801/_/958503014/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the KLR650 archives at http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... Let's keep this list SPAM free! Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com

[Sarah Barwig]

> Does anyone that has one of these > helmets have the SNELL95 sticker?

This same thread just came up on another list I'm on. I believe that Snell hasn't had any of the helmets to test yet. I could very well be wrong. It's happened before. I bet that if Snell did approve it, it would be with the 3/4 helmet rating, not as a full face. Sarah

[Tom Myers]

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[Conall O'Brien]

I believe Snell will not approve any helmet with a flip-up chinbar. Shoei Duotech is not Snell approved, that's what I own. (leftover model for $100). BTW I ordered a Snell helmet from JC Whitney for $88 this week. It's just going to be used as a spare. Probably compares to a 1980s helmet. Conall

>From: "Michael Campbell (EUS)" >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Re: More on Helmets >Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:58:51 -0500 > >Maybe someone has mentioned this, but as I've been looking at helmets in >catalogs/websites I've noticed that both of the "flip-face" helmets readily >availible (Nolan N100 and Shoei Syncrotech/Duotech) always have DOT >approval >listed in the descriptions, BUT niether one has the SNELL95 approval. The >other helmet models (Shoei at least) described on the same sites/catalogs >show both DOT and Snell approvals in the descriptions. Perhaps this speaks >of a safety issue with the hinged face? Does anyone that has one of these >helmets have the SNELL95 sticker? > >Thanks, >Mike Campbell >A1 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Thomas Keener [mailto:keensurf@...] >Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 2:31 PM >To: DSN_klr650@egroups.com >Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: More on Helmets > > >IMHO, once you get past the DOT and Snell stickers, the biggest >consideration is comfort. And so it doesn't matter if 1000 people recommend >the Nolan or the Shoei, if it doesn't fit your head, it's the wrong helmet. >It seems the manufacturers have a specific head in mind for their products. >IOW, there are Shoei heads and Arai heads, etc. I have a Shoei head. I've >tried Arais and others, but Shoeis fit me better. > >After comfort, other considerations are things like noise, weight, >ventilation, etc. The only way to really tell is to go into a shop and try >them on. If you have a good local shop, they may even let you take a test >ride. Now, the dilemma is: should you buy from the shop that has spent the >money on inventory and service to allow you to make a good decision, or do >you go out and buy the helmet mail order for tons less money? > >TomK > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Find long lost high school friends: >http://click.egroups.com/1/4056/5/_/911801/_/958503014/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >Support Dual Sport News... dsneditor@... >Let's keep this list SPAM free! > >Visit our site at http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_klr650 >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > >

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[Ted Palmer]

Thomas Keener wrote: [...]

> AIUI, Snell testing procedures aren't geared to handle flip-ups, so they > don't test them. At one of the major cycle shows (I think it was Long > Beach,) Snell had a booth. They were very friendly, and even gave away free > videos that explained what they do and how they do it.

Strange. You'd think that Snell could test the flip types with the same tests as the regular lids, at least. Mister_T

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