> Sarah,
>
> Well, the end result is that Todd, which was a good contributor to this
> list, has quit it as a result of the message he got from us.
>
> To me the question is: could this had been avoided? I think it could...
>
> I also believe that you need to read Lao Tzu again...in my view his work
> deals with exactly the opposite of what you say. To me the Tao Te King
> softly murmurs to my ear ... "Juan, there's no need for power, only love."
> (Every time I've posted the "L" word someone has gotten angry, isn't it
> strange?)
> I quote (and translate from Spanish)
> "Dao being eternal, has no name,
> It's simplicity is small, yet it can be utlilized by no one
> If Kings and Governors would subject themleves to it
> ...the people, free from government, would live in absolute harmony"
> Lao Tzu
>
> Saludos
>
> Juan
>
> > Juan, I don't think it's impossible to get a point across without
> violence.
> > In fact, the purest exchange of information which we are engaging in
right
> > now through the internet is, of necessity, without violence. Simply
> because
> > we are incapable of inflicting physical harm on one another due to the
> > virtual method of interaction we are engaging in.
> >
> > True, Arne does put his point across more forcefully and directly than
> some
> > others. But power and force are not always violence. Have you never
> studied
> > the teachings of Lao Tzu? The teachings are full of power, and imbued
with
> > force. However they are far from violent.
> >
> > The question is, do most community members understand the gentle guiding
> > hand directing them towards a nobler place? Or, as a community grows, is
> it
> > necessary to sometimes have hard and fast rules, enforce them as such,
and
> > allow no exceptions even for long-standing members, or new members, or
any
> > other sort of group which may clamor for exception from the community
> > standard?
> >
> > Not easy questions to answer. It's also not easy to be in charge of an
> > anarchic community that doesn't have any binding vows holding its members
> > together.
> >
> > I hope we can all continue to find our own way and enjoy each other's
> > company until it comes time to part amicably...
> >
> > ---o&>o---
> > Sarah Barwig
> > sarah@...
OR like Motley Crue says.. " Girl, don't go away mad. Girl, just go
awayyyyyy!"
Arne you're 100% right ya big hunk of back bacon. Life's too short to read
that poo.
CA Stu
