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[Jeff Khoury]

I didn't buy my bikes (any of them) to attract women. I buy them for transportation or fun and choose the make and model depending on the purpose. My criteria include: Performance Safety Handling Reliability Fitness for my purpose Ego doesn't play in to it. One should be able to attract women without the need for accessories. If a woman IS attracted by shiny baubles, I probably don't want anything to do with her. The last girl I dated like that made me want to eat a bullet after 30 minutes or so of attempted conversation. As far as H-Ds go, my previous posts have my opinions. And, before the H-D owners get all in a tizzy, I've ridden one. I've been told I "just don't understand", and that may be true. The Dyna I rode was slow, loud and uncomfortable due to its incessant vibration. Its performance was mediocre at best and stopping and turning was a harrowing experience. So I will ride my KLR, and my old Japanese bikes that I pick up for a few hundred bucks to see if I can make them live again. -Jeff Khoury [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gordon P]

I think my head is gonna explode... did someone say LOW maintenance on a Harley? -Jeff Khoury From personal experience of having a 2000 Electra Glide Classic for 60,000 kms, and my present 2004 Road Glide about to turn 115,000 kms I'll pipe in that these two Harley's are/were 'low' maintenance; not quite as low as my '85 or '88 Gold Wing's in their day but other than fluid changes, and lubricating cables, and checking critical fasteners from time to time, the maintenance has been minimal. I have NEVER had a mechanical breakdown on either Harley in those 175,000 kms which is NOT true for my 2007 KLR that has only 9,000 kms on the odometer. I can go 16,000 kms+ on a rear tire and 24,000 kms+ on a front; this on a comfortable bike that weighs 750 lbs+. As for riders having a 'Harley' attitude, I belong to a HOG chapter that does lots of charity work, we invite many 'other brand' of riders to many of our events and rides, and though the majority of us wear black leathers and may give off a certain 'personae', the truth is we're just friendly people that love to ride. The majority wave to anyone that waves at us (if we didn't wave first) and we will stop to help any rider in difficulty. I believe we do LESS damage to the public perception of riders than the s**t-for-brains crotch rocket riders who ride at seriously excessive speed, disobey too many rules of the road, and pass other people like they're nuisances on their public 'race track'. I recently got back from 5,000 kms on the KLR and the 'majority' of riders (on Harlies or others) that I encountered in the 4 states and 2 provinces waved to me on my KLR. I have aftermarket exhaust on my RG (BUB-Rineharts) which were installed as part of the performance enhancement I did to the bike 2 years ago. Yes they are 'somewhat' louder than stock, but I don't hammer it in urban areas, and at speed on the freeway I don't mind a driver knowing I'm there when I choose to pass. I'm as annoyed as anyone when a 'poser' guns his motor like no one has heard a loud Harley before!!! My experience interacting with 'most' riders, from Canada to southern Mexico, is that for MOST riders if you come across with 'attitude', you get attitude back. I try to portray that if you're on two wheels, we have something in common from the get-go and sharing experiences/tales/lies can be a fun part of the culture. Sermon over, Gord

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

I agree with you on the "approchable" issue. I have noticed that Japenese bike riders are a bit timid about approching Harley riders. Perhaps they are worried about pissing off a Hells Angels member, I don't know. Jeff A20 In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:47:51 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rosslind@... writes: --- In _DSN_KLR650@yahoogroDSN_KLR_ (mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com) , jokerloco9@., jok ride it.

> (Massive Snip) > > As a side note, I have owned probably 20 bikes, all Japanese and one > Harley. People routinely wave to me just riding down the street while

riding

> the Harley. Never on a Japanese bike. I have had numerous people, the

last

> two were female, pull up in cars beside me on the street, and tell me

what

> a nice bike I have, while on my Harley. Never on a Japanese bike. I have > taken many girls on bike rides. They all want to go on the Harley.

Rarely

> do they want to go on my Japanese bikes.

I've had the opposite reaction in my experiences. I recently went on a 1360 mile trip with some friends on Harley's. I even rode one the entire trip, which was an experience all in itself. One thing that I have noticed over the course of my travels is that when I am on my KLR, I am approachable. Complete strangers come up and start conversations. They want to know what kind of adventure I'm on, where I've been and where I'm going. Little old ladies wave at me. Kids go nuts and think it's the coolest bike ever. Park my KLR in amongst a bunch a Harleys, then walk away and see which bike garners the most attention. It's the KLR every time, which annoys the Harley riders to no end. They've spent a ton of money purchasing, then accessorizing their Harley and have a huge investment in it, and the average passerby doesn't give their bike even a passing glance. They are facinated by the dirt bike with the panniers and the mud on it. Dress me up in black leathers and watch people's reaction to me change. I always find this curious, because I'm still the same friendly, good natured guy, but people on the street will avert their gaze. Strange, but true. The most interesting reaction I noticed was when I was on our weekly Wednesday night dinner ride. The entire groups of 15 bikes were on V-twins by various manufacturers, while I was on my trust KLR. As the group passed by a bunch of teenagers walking down the street, the procession of shiny bikes didn't illict any interest by the kids. They has the reaction of "Yawn, another bunch of loud Harleys". I can understand the reaction; there are so many loud V-twins around everywhere that it's nothing special to see any more. I come into thier field of view and thier eyes bug out, they point, and I get a whole bunch of waving and thumbs-up. As I pass I look in the mirrors and the group is watching me disappear in the distance while engaged in animated conversation. A few blocks down the street our column passes a 4 year old on his tricycle. He is terrified by all the noise and it attemping to hide behind a tree. When he seen me come putting along at the end of the column, his eyes light up, and he overcomes his fear a bit and sticks his head out for a better look. I wave to him. His face breaks out into a big grin. The fear is gone and he is waving for all he is worth. This makes my entire week. Who knows what will happen to that little boy in the future. I hope he will have fond memories of that moment as I do, and that when he gets older he will have first a curiousity, and then a passion for motorcycling like I did when I was a kid. I always try to be a good ambassador for motorcycling wherever and on whatever I am riding. It just seems to be a whole lot easier on a KLR. Ross Lindberg Fertile, MN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

Yes, low. I think most people are still thinking of Harleys of the past. The new 1999 twin cam motor, except for a few 1999 teething problems, is a very solid and reliable motor. You have 3 sets of oil to change, but aside from that, no more maintenance than the KLR. Mine has never leaked a drop. Jeff A20 In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:59:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, elcanaco@... writes: I think my head is gonna explode... did someone say LOW maintenance on a Harley? -Jeff Khoury From personal experience of having a 2000 Electra Glide Classic for 60,000 kms, and my present 2004 Road Glide about to turn 115,000 kms I'll pipe in that these two Harley's are/were 'low' maintenance; not quite as low as my '85 or '88 Gold Wing's in their day but other than fluid changes, and lubricating cables, and checking critical fasteners from time to time, the maintenance has been minimal. I have NEVER had a mechanical breakdown on either Harley in those 175,000 kms which is NOT true for my 2007 KLR that has only 9,000 kms on the odometer. I can go 16,000 kms+ on a rear tire and 24,000 kms+ on a front; this on a comfortable bike that weighs 750 lbs+. As for r iders having a 'Harley' attitude, I belong to a HOG chapter that does lots of charity work, we invite many 'other brand' of riders to many of our events and rides, and though the majority of us wear black leathers and may give off a certain 'personae', the truth is we're just friendly people that love to ride. The majority wave to anyone that waves at us (if we didn't wave first) and we will stop to help any rider in difficulty. I believe we do LESS damage to the public perception of riders than the s**t-for-brains crotch rocket riders who ride at seriously excessive speed, disobey too many rules of the road, and pass other people like they're nuisances on their public 'race track'. I recently got back from 5,000 kms on the KLR and the 'majority' of riders (on Harlies or others) that I encountered in the 4 states and 2 provinces waved to me on my KLR. I have aftermarket exhaust on my RG (BUB-Rineharts) which were installed as part of the performance enhancement I did to the bike 2 years ago. Yes they are 'somewhat' louder than stock, but I don't hammer it in urban areas, and at speed on the freeway I don't mind a driver knowing I'm there when I choose to pass. I'm as annoyed as anyone when a 'poser' guns his motor like no one has heard a loud Harley before!!! My experience interacting with 'most' riders, from Canada to southern Mexico, is that for MOST riders if you come across with 'attitude', you get attitude back. I try to portray that if you're on two wheels, we have something in common from the get-go and sharing experiences/From personal experience of having a 2000 Sermon over, Gord [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gary Thacker]

I guess that's why they make Fords and Chevys. Different strokes for different folks. Personally I don't care what ya ride as long as ya ride. There are good people and bad in anything. I wave to everyone that rides. If they wave back great, if not I don't take it personally. Just seems most Harley guys don't wave. Idono why? I used to think it was because they thought their bikes were all American parts and labor and I was a traitor. Maybe they just don't know. Anyway they probably drive a Toyota anyway. LOL Gary Souderton,Pa. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~~ Abraham Lincoln To: elcanaco@...; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: jokerloco9@... Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:04:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - Harleys Yes, low. I think most people are still thinking of Harleys of the past. The new 1999 twin cam motor, except for a few 1999 teething problems, is a very solid and reliable motor. You have 3 sets of oil to change, but aside from that, no more maintenance than the KLR. Mine has never leaked a drop. Jeff A20 In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:59:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, elcanaco@... writes: I think my head is gonna explode... did someone say LOW maintenance on a Harley? -Jeff Khoury From personal experience of having a 2000 Electra Glide Classic for 60,000 kms, and my present 2004 Road Glide about to turn 115,000 kms I'll pipe in that these two Harley's are/were 'low' maintenance; not quite as low as my '85 or '88 Gold Wing's in their day but other than fluid changes, and lubricating cables, and checking critical fasteners from time to time, the maintenance has been minimal. I have NEVER had a mechanical breakdown on either Harley in those 175,000 kms which is NOT true for my 2007 KLR that has only 9,000 kms on the odometer. I can go 16,000 kms+ on a rear tire and 24,000 kms+ on a front; this on a comfortable bike that weighs 750 lbs+. As for r iders having a 'Harley' attitude, I belong to a HOG chapter that does lots of charity work, we invite many 'other brand' of riders to many of our events and rides, and though the majority of us wear black leathers and may give off a certain 'personae', the truth is we're just friendly people that love to ride. The majority wave to anyone that waves at us (if we didn't wave first) and we will stop to help any rider in difficulty. I believe we do LESS damage to the public perception of riders than the s**t-for-brains crotch rocket riders who ride at seriously excessive speed, disobey too many rules of the road, and pass other people like they're nuisances on their public 'race track'. I recently got back from 5,000 kms on the KLR and the 'majority' of riders (on Harlies or others) that I encountered in the 4 states and 2 provinces waved to me on my KLR. I have aftermarket exhaust on my RG (BUB-Rineharts) which were installed as part of the performance enhancement I did to the bike 2 years ago. Yes they are 'somewhat' louder than stock, but I don't hammer it in urban areas, and at speed on the freeway I don't mind a driver knowing I'm there when I choose to pass. I'm as annoyed as anyone when a 'poser' guns his motor like no one has heard a loud Harley before!!! My experience interacting with 'most' riders, from Canada to southern Mexico, is that for MOST riders if you come across with 'attitude', you get attitude back. I try to portray that if you're on two wheels, we have something in common from the get-go and sharing experiences/From personal experience of having a 2000 Sermon over, Gord [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail . http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[The Reverend]

We must've dated the same girl. -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Khoury The last girl I dated like that made me want to eat a bullet after 30 minutes or so of attempted conversation.

[The Reverend]

I don't recall much of the Harley's being American for a while now. Anyone know just what parts are manufactured/made in America (by American labor? Hehe) -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Thacker don't take it personally. Just seems most Harley guys don't wave. Idono why? I used to think it was because they thought their bikes were all American parts and labor and I was a traitor. Maybe they just don't know. Anyway they probably drive a Toyota anyway. LOL

[Michael Martin]

Years ago my wife and I were touring through Colorado and we stopped at a store outside Rocky Mountain National Park. I was using the pay phone when a 4-year-old little boy approached my wife who was waiting by our ST1100. With his hands on his hips, he postured bravely and asked her, "This your mo'orcycle?" "No," she said, "It's his." and pointed to me. "Do you ride on it?" "Yes" and she pointed to the passenger seat: "Can I touch it?" "Yes, go ahead." and his mother stood by laughing. His dad came out of the store carrying a baby, accompanied by the boy's 8-year-old sister. By then I had finished the phone call and approached the motorcycle. I told him we were getting ready to leave and started putting on my helmet. He rushed into the store, holding his ears, despite my telling him it wasn't going to be loud. But he didn't believe it until we started the bike. Then he came outside and joined his family as we waved and rode away. We chuckle about this every time we remember it. Mike Martin, Louisville, KY ________________________________ From: Ross Lindberg To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:47:17 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - Harleys A few blocks down the street our column passes a 4 year old on his tricycle. He is terrified by all the noise and it attemping to hide behind a tree. When he seen me come putting along at the end of the column, his eyes light up, and he overcomes his fear a bit and sticks his head out for a better look. I wave to him. His face breaks out into a big grin. The fear is gone and he is waving for all he is worth. This makes my entire week. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Gary Thacker]

Yeah that was my point. They think they are all American made. You know "American Iron" like I said they just don't know. Gary Souderton,Pa. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~~ Abraham Lincoln To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com From: reverend@... Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 14:09:05 -0600 Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR - Harleys I don't recall much of the Harley's being American for a while now. Anyone know just what parts are manufactured/made in America (by American labor? Hehe) -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Thacker don't take it personally. Just seems most Harley guys don't wave. Idono why? I used to think it was because they thought their bikes were all American parts and labor and I was a traitor. Maybe they just don't know. Anyway they probably drive a Toyota anyway. LOL _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live : Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "roncriswell@..." wrote:

> (but chicks do love Harley's). >

The question is, would you want to do a chick who would do you because you had a harley?