klr250 (was "stolen a13, arcata ca")

[Allan Patton]

Don, So you are asking for my opinion eh? Cool. But that's all it is, just my opinion. What's so great about this list is that you can ask the opinion of many owners, then make a decision based on them. So, continue to read the list, ask questions, and read the FAQ's. The link to the FAQs is at the bottom of each message. www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Allan A14

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Bittle" To: "Allan Patton" Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: oil leak > Allan, > Maybe you could write up a tip sheet regarding your experiences for us new > owners. I'd like to know what has worked for others so I don't spend my > scarce retirement checks on bad products. > Thanks. > don > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan Patton" > To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:55 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: oil leak > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew" > > > > > > > At 68000 miles what parts have you changed on your KLR? > > > > Tires and tubes. Tires many times. > > Chain and sprockets, several times. > > Front brake pads, twice. > > Rear brake pads, three times. > > Doohickey and spring at 53,000, was not broken. > > Spark plug, once, at 22,000. Didn't really need to. > > Valve shims, adjusted for the first time at 50,000. > > Head light, several times. > > Tail light, once. Changed to a 2357. > > Head light fuse, after it blew, changed to a 15 amp. > > Oil and oil filter, many times. > > Oil drain plug with the Moose magnetic. > > Oil drain plug washer, they get crushed after repeated use. > > Air filter. Have two, so I change out the dirty one with the clean one. > > Battery at three years. > > Clutch cable, sometime last year. > > Fork oil and fork boots, once. > > Shift lever broke at the weld, had it welded and still running the > original, > > so it wasn't really changed. > > > > Need to change the rear brake light switch, brake fluid, coolant, and > water > > pump seal. > > > > Yup, it's a high maintenance bike, but I still like it. > > Allan A14 > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > >

[Matthew]

Chain and sprockets several times.?? why several? That can be expensive.Whats the worst that can happen if this is not done? Im at about 13000 on the original set. Matthew A14 Orlando FL

> > > At 68000 miles what parts have you changed on your KLR? > > Tires and tubes. Tires many times. > Chain and sprockets, several times. > Front brake pads, twice. > Rear brake pads, three times. > Doohickey and spring at 53,000, was not broken. > Spark plug, once, at 22,000. Didn't really need to. > Valve shims, adjusted for the first time at 50,000. > Head light, several times. > Tail light, once. Changed to a 2357. > Head light fuse, after it blew, changed to a 15 amp. > Oil and oil filter, many times. > Oil drain plug with the Moose magnetic. > Oil drain plug washer, they get crushed after repeated use. > Air filter. Have two, so I change out the dirty one with the clean

one.

> Battery at three years. > Clutch cable, sometime last year. > Fork oil and fork boots, once. > Shift lever broke at the weld, had it welded and still running the

original,

> so it wasn't really changed. > > Need to change the rear brake light switch, brake fluid, coolant,

and water

> pump seal. > > Yup, it's a high maintenance bike, but I still like it. > Allan A14

[Pople, Michael (JUS)]

Here's my latest problem. The dummy who changed my oil, overfilled it (I think) and I drove 100km on the highway before noticing oil leaking. Now assuming it's only overfilled by 200ml or so and I drain some off at this point, how big of a problem do I have here? Will there be permanent damage or is it just some oil forcing it's way past the seals? How do I tell and what do I do about it? As always thanks for the help and the patience with my many questions. Mike

[Zachariah Mully]

On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 13:01, Pople, Michael (JUS) wrote:

> Here's my latest problem. The dummy who changed my oil, overfilled it (I > think) and I drove 100km on the highway before noticing oil leaking. Now > assuming it's only overfilled by 200ml or so and I drain some off at this > point, how big of a problem do I have here? Will there be permanent damage > or is it just some oil forcing it's way past the seals? How do I tell and > what do I do about it? As always thanks for the help and the patience with > my many questions. > > Mike

Actually (s)he might not have overfilled it. If you go by the service manual (as well as the capacity stamped on the side of the engine cases) the engine takes 2.5L of oil when the filter is changed. When you add 2.5L of oil, the level *is* above the sight glass. This is a hotly debated topic on the list ("what is the right oil level"), but as long as you can be sure that they filled it with 2.5L, then no harm has been done. Z

[Pople, Michael (JUS)]

Okay, truth be told it was me and that is what I did. I changed the filter and put in exactly 2.5 litres of oil. It was above the sight glass but I figured it couldn't be by much so I didn't worry. Ran it for a few minutes and all seemed well. Later that day there was a small spot of oil underneath. I tightened the drain plug 1/16 of a turn and figured that would do it. There was another smaller spot this morning but I wasn't certain it wasn't from some oil I spilled and perhaps didn't completely wipe off the engine. Decided to take it for a drive before tightening the plug any more in case that was unnecessary and I ended up stripping it. When I went and looked at it at lunch time there was more oil underneath but I'm not sure from where. It almost looked like the filler cap was leaking but it seems tight. If 2.5litres isn't overfill, I'm wondering if the oil I spilled earlier pooled in the skid plate (stock plate which does collect stuff) and blew around on the highway. If I didn't overfill it, the drain plug is tight and the oil filter cover is tight, I really can't have a problem, right? Mike

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zachariah Mully [SMTP:zmully@...] > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:26 PM > To: Pople, Michael (JUS) > Cc: 'KLR' > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] oil leak > > On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 13:01, Pople, Michael (JUS) wrote: > > Here's my latest problem. The dummy who changed my oil, overfilled it > (I > > think) and I drove 100km on the highway before noticing oil leaking. > Now > > assuming it's only overfilled by 200ml or so and I drain some off at > this > > point, how big of a problem do I have here? Will there be permanent > damage > > or is it just some oil forcing it's way past the seals? How do I tell > and > > what do I do about it? As always thanks for the help and the patience > with > > my many questions. > > > > Mike > > Actually (s)he might not have overfilled it. If you go by the service > manual (as well as the capacity stamped on the side of the engine cases) > the engine takes 2.5L of oil when the filter is changed. When you add > 2.5L of oil, the level *is* above the sight glass. This is a hotly > debated topic on the list ("what is the right oil level"), but as long > as you can be sure that they filled it with 2.5L, then no harm has been > done. > > Z DC > A5X > A12X

[Devon Jarvis]

"Pople, Michael (JUS)" wrote:

> > Okay, truth be told it was me and that is what I did. I changed the filter > and put in exactly 2.5 litres of oil. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zachariah Mully [SMTP:zmully@...] > > but as long > > as you can be sure that they filled it with 2.5L, then no harm has been > > done. > > > > Z > DC > > A5X > > A12X >

Back from where? Karl and I rode a small portion of the SJER dual-sport ride yesterday. Nice, challenging southern NJ single track for the most part. Oil can end up in odd places because of air currents around the motor while riding. It't unpredictable. There are also spots in the top of the case near the filler where oil can pool, but when the motor gets really hot the oil wicks along the surface of the case and down. If you are really worried, thoroughly clean the engine, check the oil level (just that there's enough oil in the motor) and take it for a ride. The right rear of my motor looks like the Exxon Valdez from the WD40 bath I give the chain and countershaft sprocket. It appears to leak oil like a British bike, but in reality it's throw-off from the chain. Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[hens_p]

Mike: I wouldn't think that it would damage things unless it was filled to the tip top or something extreme. Even then, driving it 60 miles would probably not be a huge issue. My question is where was the oil leaking from? That could help us understand if there should be a worry in the future. Pat ironjungle.com --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Pople, Michael (JUS)" wrote:

> Here's my latest problem. The dummy who changed my oil, overfilled

it (I

> think) and I drove 100km on the highway before noticing oil

leaking. Now

> assuming it's only overfilled by 200ml or so and I drain some off

at this

> point, how big of a problem do I have here? Will there be

permanent damage

> or is it just some oil forcing it's way past the seals? How do I

tell and

> what do I do about it? As always thanks for the help and the

patience with

> my many questions. > > Mike

[Zachariah Mully]

On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 13:52, Devon Jarvis wrote:

> Back from where? Karl and I rode a small portion of the SJER > dual-sport ride yesterday. Nice, challenging southern NJ > single track for the most part.

I was up in Maine, around Bar Harbor, on vacation with the family. I rode around some up there, but most of the interesting logging roads were gated. Oh well. I did get a chance to take my KLR-XR off road and I must say that the KLX-R forks are night and day better than the KLX-C forks off-road. Might have to Race-tech my C's. Z DC A5X A12X

[Mark St.Hilaire, Sr]

> Okay, truth be told it was me and that is what I did. I changed the

filter

> and put in exactly 2.5 litres of oil. It was above the sight glass but I > figured it couldn't be by much so I didn't worry. Ran it for a few

minutes

> and all seemed well. Later that day there was a small spot of oil > underneath. I tightened the drain plug 1/16 of a turn and figured that > would do it. There was another smaller spot this morning but I wasn't > certain it wasn't from some oil I spilled and perhaps didn't completely

wipe

> off the engine.

Michael, do you have an aluminum bash plate on the bike? It may just be that I'm the world's biggest spaz, but I'll be darned if I can change the oil on my KLR without having some old oil somehow find it's way down to puddle up in the bash plate. I enlarged the hole around the drain plug, stuff rags into the side under the filter, and still get that puddle that then goes on to leak out through the drain plug hole in the plate when the bike is on the sidestand. Maybe that's what's happening to you? Mark KLR650 Motorcycle Pages: http://klr6500.tripod.com/ HomePage: http://home.adelphia.net/~msaint/index.html My Adelphia Email can be "iffy." If you don't get a response, please try: KLR6500@...

[bigburlybaldbeardedbiker]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Pople, Michael (JUS)" wrote:

>It almost looked like the filler cap was leaking but > it seems tight.

You may have lost the o-ring on the filler cap. It will leak without it. Paul Streeter