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[kl650a@verizon.net]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Jim Bolton wrote:

> A family having a picnic will remember a group of > motorcycles going by no matter what...

Depending on the conditions the family having a picnic may hear a loud motorcycle traveling more than a mile away yet the quite motorcycle could pass by within 300 feet unnoticed. The size of the "footprint" matters. Walt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fmhilton]

While we are batting this around, does anyone have a Big Gun exhaust system they would want to sell? Contact me off list... Mike Hilton Louisiana

----- Original Message ----- From: roncriswell@... To: dragonknee@... Cc: DSN forum Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: big gun exhaust for klr Speaking of picnics and motorcycles. 30 years ago we unmuffled 2 stroke on expansion chambers riders thought it was way cool to meet at the local lake (all 300 or 400 of us) and go roaring through picnic areas thinking the pinickers would think we was way cool. They didn't and eventually we were banned. Now those same trails are OK for mountain bikes, walkers and runners ...... but the walkers and runners are starting to complain about those silent mountain bikers are swooping up on them from behind and scaring them. Criswell On Nov 11, 2008, at 5:10 PM, Jim Bolton wrote: > I think that people have the wrong idea of what I am saying. I > don't think that the ills of motorcycling are the pipes. I think > that they are part of it and agree totally with most of you when it > comes to to loud of pipes... don't need them. But a quiet pipe is > ok for weight loss and a little rumble if thats what you like. I > have a stock system on mine. > A family having a picnic will remember a group of motorcycles > going by no matter what... yes they will hear a pipe but they would > also remember someone riding fast by them or doing a wheelie or > whatever.... we are not saints and so goes some of the problems. > I will let my side of this drop, I just think that blaming the > ills of motorcycling on pipes is placing to much on just one > problem..and its everything as a whole that causes problems. They > are closing the desert in california in huge amounts and it has > nothing to do with pipes , it has to do with conservation and > lizards and natural plants. It also has to do with people that > don't stay on the trails and cause all kind of other problems with > things and people around them...... Just my oppinion > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim Tegler]

There's a nice wild fight going and somebody always shows up and spoils it with there balance, rationale and tolerant opinion. Man....... Jim A5 Posted by: "Jim Bolton" dragonknee@... dragonknee Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:44 pm (PST) I think that people have the wrong idea of what I am saying. I don't think that the ills of motorcycling are the pipes. I think that they are part of it and agree totally with most of you when it comes to to loud of pipes... don't need them. But a quiet pipe is ok for weight loss and a little rumble if thats what you like. I have a stock system on mine. A family having a picnic will remember a group of motorcycles going by no matter what... yes they will hear a pipe but they would also remember someone riding fast by them or doing a wheelie or whatever.... we are not saints and so goes some of the problems. I will let my side of this drop, I just think that blaming the ills of motorcycling on pipes is placing to much on just one problem..and its everything as a whole that causes problems. They are closing the desert in california in huge amounts and it has nothing to do with pipes , it has to do with conservation and lizards and natural plants. It also has to do with people that don't stay on the trails and cause all kind of other problems with things and people around them...... Just my oppinion [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

If they are closing large areas of riding where you are (on public land) ... the answer for off road riders is privately owned rider parks as we have here in North Texas. We have about 3 at last count. One really good one is called Red River Motorcycle Park on the Red River. Miles of just about any kind of riding you want. Deep sand in the creek beds, really difficult rocky hills, and tight tree trails. It is where they have held The Last man Standing enduro featured a couple of times in Cycle World. If Mexico got wise, they would open such parks just across the border for all You California riders being shut down by restrictions. Miles and miles of nothing in Baja. Criswell

On Nov 13, 2008, at 9:56 PM, Jim Tegler wrote: > > There's a nice wild fight going and somebody always shows up and > spoils it with there balance, rationale and tolerant opinion. > Man....... > > Jim A5 > > Posted by: "Jim Bolton" dragonknee@... dragonknee > Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:44 pm (PST) > I think that people have the wrong idea of what I am saying. I > don't think that the ills of motorcycling are the pipes. I think > that they are part of it and agree totally with most of you when it > comes to to loud of pipes... don't need them. But a quiet pipe is > ok for weight loss and a little rumble if thats what you like. I > have a stock system on mine. > A family having a picnic will remember a group of motorcycles going > by no matter what... yes they will hear a pipe but they would also > remember someone riding fast by them or doing a wheelie or > whatever.... we are not saints and so goes some of the problems. > I will let my side of this drop, I just think that blaming the ills > of motorcycling on pipes is placing to much on just one > problem..and its everything as a whole that causes problems. They > are closing the desert in california in huge amounts and it has > nothing to do with pipes , it has to do with conservation and > lizards and natural plants. It also has to do with people that > don't stay on the trails and cause all kind of other problems with > things and people around them...... Just my oppinion > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > __________________________________________________________ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jud Jones" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: big gun exhaust for klr --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "mikeypep" wrote: > . The stock exhaust is > not only quiet, but also too tame. What sound we do get isn't very > exciting, even from the rider seat. But at least it's quiet. I'd just as soon leave the life saving efforts to the Harley riders. oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Thanks Jud! I ride both! ed '03 A17 '04 HD

[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jud Jones" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:47 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: big gun exhaust for klr --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jim Bolton wrote: > > People in glass houses should not throw stones..I believe your house is > glass because you ride a motorcycle. Who are you to judge a person to be a jerk because he puts a pipe on his bike... He who does this may have his reasons and he would not care for your close minded views. Just because I want something different does not make me a jerk. Nor does riding a different style bike or brand of bike or not riding bikes at all. Your judgmental attitude is the reason that we have wars and and humans as a whole can not get a long... because of differences... skin, hair, religion, politics... you name it.. if I don't believe the way you do, than I am a jerk..thats friggen sad... I sir believe that you should live and let others live and quit being so narrow minded in your attempt to prove your point. > I agree that a gsxr with a racing pipe going buy a guy at 80 while passing > a car can scare the hell out of a car driver... but that doesn't make the guy with the pipe on his gsxr a jerk... > It sure didn't take long for you to show your real colors and prove that > your just another old geezer that complaines about others that will not do things his way.."Dam kids...the noise bikes and loud womenn......(FIst shaking just barely because of old age ). Why not get back on the porch and get to that rocking chair....cuz your not far from it..... > If the music is to loud than your just to old to enjoy it..... PS.... the > neigbors next door that will not talk to you think your a jerk................cuz he has a KTM 990.......OH MY !!!! > > PS>..... you made me do it.......and to return the favor......jerk.... > > That was too easy. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo You're too easy. 16 tooth sprockets and pipes will summon you every time:). Oh well, just goes to show that passing board exams doesn't guarantee a basic level of anything:). ed A17

[Ed Chait]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bolton" To: "Arden Kysely" ; "DSN forum" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: big gun exhaust for klr I so agree....lets give up on all things different.... next if your offended by farts but like to smell your own.... a tube to the nose.... OH YEA.... and if you like 2 strokes with chambers we could put a pipe to the nose for the smell of two stroke oil and tubes to the ears... OH YEA..... Now where was my rocking chair.....and depends....oh crap..... ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo The KLR community has more than its share of predictable and opinionated old fogeys. ed A17

[SCOTT STABOLITO]

For cryin' out loud!!!! Give it a rest!!! I guess all we're gonna' see for the next month or so are,"Re: big gunn exhaust for klr",snyde comments and cut-downs that just drone on-and-on-and-on!!! I ride with a big gunn EVO-X on my '07 Kawi. Sure it gains in decibels quite rapidly!! So what!!! it's not that hard to repack it if you wrap it in place with the wire from a wire-feed welder!! And if you can't afford the good stuff? Plain ol' fiberglass insulation will work just fine in a pinch! It doesn't quiet the noise quite as much and doesn't last for crap,but at least there is something there for noise reduction! Now if we could just get everybody off of their lazy asses,maybe we wouldn't offend so damn many picniking families!? I apologize for losing it for a minute, but COME ON!!!!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Stuart Mumford]

> -----Original Message----- > Posted by: "SCOTT STABOLITO" stabolitowfo@... stabolitowfo > Date: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:54 pm ((PST)) > > For cryin' out loud!!!! Give it a rest!!! I guess all we're > gonna' see for the next month or so are,"Re: big gunn exhaust for > klr",snyde comments and cut-downs that just drone > on-and-on-and-on!!! I ride with a big gunn EVO-X on my '07 Kawi. > Sure it gains in decibels quite rapidly!! So what!!! it's not > that hard to repack it if you wrap it in place with the wire from > a wire-feed welder!! And if you can't afford the good stuff? > Plain ol' fiberglass insulation will work just fine in a pinch! > It doesn't quiet the noise quite as much and doesn't last for > crap,but at least there is something there for noise reduction! > Now if we could just get everybody off of their lazy asses,maybe > we wouldn't offend so damn many picniking families!? I apologize > for losing it for a minute, but COME ON!!!!! > >

I think that the vast majority of people who have owned bikes for a number of years have come to the realization that loud pipes piss people off and inevitably lead to closed riding areas and have modified their bikes accordingly. Good for you for keeping your exhaust freshly packed, man! However, I certainly wouldn't want to be in the midst of a 2000 mile week-long motorcycle camping trip, packing my exhaust around the campfire. I live next to some hills, have owned bikes for a long time, and when some dipshit ruins a peaceful Sunday afternoon by riding his uncorked bike past my back fence, it pisses even me off. If he had a quiet bike I probably would never even notice him back there. A little consideration goes a long way. Try to be a good example (like Mr. Stabolito), please. Thanks CA Stu

[LDHunter]

I don't have a dog in this race but most people hate the noise of "uncorked" exhaust worse than everything else about off road riding put together. That incessant noise drives people crazy and gives dirt bikes and dual sports a bad name. I personally think it's childish to insist that your motorcycle is loud and not to care who it offends. $bob$ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]