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[Russell Scott]

Jud, I won't argue with you. Your entitled to your opinion. I will reassert that Obama is dishonest, and an idealistic socialist/Marxist. You don't spend most of your adult life being a disciple of Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers, and Rev. Wright, without embracing a fair amount of Marxist ideology. It would be absurd to think otherwise. As for President Bush, he sure had a lot of company across the political spectrum thinking Saddam had WMD's. http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp His mistake was trying to appease the Marxist/socialist U.N. We had plenty of reasons to attack Iraq, not because of 9/11, or WMD's, but because we kicked his rear end in 1991, and he signed a surrender agreement. Breaking a surrender agreement that Americans spent blood and treasure to achieve, in my book, was an act of war. I'm Russell Scott, and these are strictly my opinions. You opinions may vary, depending on your political and religious worldview, which I may not agree with, but I do appreciate your right to express them under the first amendment. R

----- Original Message ----- From: Jud Jones To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. Russell, you are making a basic assumption that Obama is dishonest. I have not seen anything from his performance that suggests that. I hear a lot of righties saying that, but see nothing of substance to back it up. Certainly nothing on a par with Bush's fundamental and innate dishonesty or Palin's ethical lapses, and not a hint of venality. Obama will not be able to do everything he promises, but what politician ever has? Obama strikes me as more pragmatic than idealistic, with a great deal of apparent leadership ability, which is probably what has drawn a large number of conservatives into his camp recently despite their disagreement with his policies. No doubt he will prove to be a different guy than the one we thought we had elected, but I would be surprised if the dissonance should even approach the gap we got between "Bush the Uniter" that people voted for and the divisive neocon demagogue who actually took office. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Russell Scott" wrote: > > Steve, your making a basic assumption, that Obama is honest. And I'm faster than James Stewart. He makes Bill Clinton look like honest Abe. Remember how the summer of love turned out. Started out with utopian ideas of peace and love, and by the end of the summer, turned into a cesspool of STD's, overdoses, and sleeping in your vomit. All high minded idealism always crashes and burns when it hits the wall of reality. > > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Strader > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:56 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. > > > First off, I hope nothing shows on this reply but me... If it's "socialism" that Obama espouses than count me in. I'm sick and tired of "trickle down economics" and such. The rich are getting richer and the middle class is being eliminated. Who on this list can complain about taxes being raised on those who earn more than 250k? If you don't like it I bet you have a BMW or KTM in your garage. > > I lost my good paying job in Jan. of '08 and took what I could immediately W/O going on unemployment. With masive O/T I almost made as much as before. Then the O/T dried up as the economy went south. Now I am looking at both foreclosure and bankruptcy. B/K will maybe allow me to keep paying for my mortgage if I'm lucky. My father went to WWll and lived through the great depression. He was able to raise a familly, send us to college on his salary alone. My wife and I are up against the wall thanks to RR, and GB1 and GB2's "trickle down". My learning disabled daughter (god bless her drive for knowledge I never had) just got a guarenteed acceptance to UC (University of California) but I can't afford to send her. Hopefully grants and other financial aid (considered "socialism" by some. I'm sure) will allow her to reach her full potential. > > America (as in USA) has recieved a black eye in world opinion over the last 8 years. Hopefully we (USA) can redeem our worldwide reputation as a country of tolerance and understanding like we were after WWll. I believe Barack Obama is capable of restoring the world's faith in the USA. If I didn't, I wouldn't have spent all this time typing. I'm a very slow and tedious typer after all. Sorry if this pisses you off for not being an oil thread or makes you want to unsubscribe. > > If anything, please go ride your KLR and be glad you live in the best nation on Earth... > > Steve Strader, Ukiah, CA > '06 Greenie (of course) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Michael Van Horn]

Obama will make Carter and the two Bushies look like statesmen before he is done. And he is lying, as well as McCain talking of spending all this money THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO SPEND. JUST PLEASE GIVE ME ONE THAT TELLS US WE ARE BROKE!!! AND... I might vote again... Michael [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Russell Scott]

No worries Frank, I'm as cool as the other side of the pillow. Don't misinterpret my passion for politics with my outlook on life. Politics is a game, and I enjoy playing it. After the game is over and the election decided, I wish the best for whoever is the next President. I have no illusions or take for granted how lucky I was to be born in America. I believe this country's ultimate destination is "joy unspeakable and full of glory." I know who the real bad guys are, they are spiritual forces in high places, that have to run their course. Who offered Jesus all the kingdoms of this world if he would bow down to him? It wasn't "the man upstairs", is was "the man downstairs". I have plenty of problems with both parties, I have problems with my wife, I have problems with myself, I have problems with my motorcycles, I have problems with my dog, I have problems with my job, because I was "born in sin, shapen in iniquity". But "He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son" will always be my primary focus and goal in life. Every obstacle in life, most self inflicted, is another step up heaven's ladder, with a lot of help from my Best friend. R

----- Original Message ----- From: grbhfng To: Russell Scott Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. Chill Russell, haven't you figured out yet that trying to point out to ObamaIdiots that their "Savior" is not all he's cracked up to be. Like trying to teach a pig to sing...waste your time, and annoys the pig. The sad part is...when their boy shows his true colors...they will blame it on everything and everyone else...but not him or their idiotic selfs for following him and buying his BS. Just hope and pray that the USA still has GOD on our side...I think we're in for some really bad times because of this BS. My name is Frank Arriola, and I believe in America, and believe in Death for those who would do her harm. And if you don't like it...in the immortal words of KLRCary..."Tough Shit !" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Eric Foster]

I don't usually chime in on the pol. crap, but here goes. I can't believe how many have drank the Koolaid and are ready to just fall under the mesmerizing chants of a marxist/socialist. He is ass backwards on the American dream, he hangs with friends who don't just have shady backgrounds, but people with evil back grounds. He hangs with those who attempt to blow up the pentagon and kill police, he had an anti-jew and political bomber for a baby sitter. He has a spriritual leader who feels that America created the aids virus to kill colored folk. He feels the CONSTITUTION IS WRONG, that it should give more power to government. WTF are you THINKING??? Is this what our forefathers died for, what my grandfather spent a life of living hell for? He (and his liberal minions) is against the 1st and 2nd amendments. Is THIS what we want for government? This 250,000 tax line is BS! Last week Nobama slipped and said 200,000, last weekend Biden said 150,000. How long before we reach the 42,000 that he has voted in support of in the past? Tax cuts? My donkey! He's going to give you up to 1500.00 for a political bribe..... err.... laziness reward.... err tax credit, yet has already said he will let Bush's tax breaks sunset next year. That's 3000 more outta your pocket. I suck at math, but....... Bottom line is that I used to work a 7.00 an hour job with under the table overtime. 20 years later, I make 60k doing 60 plus hours a week of LABOR, not sitting behind a damn desk or letting the government give it to me. If someone wants money bad enough, they will find a way. Have some damn pride.. Mccain and Palin aren't the correct answer for what we need, but it's a sure damn whole lot better than this man with no past who has sealed every record of his former life. Why? Why do you suppose he is so secretive? Why does no one get to see his thesis? Can you answer me that? The man is up to something and the liberals damn well know it. You want change? Vote for him and you'll damn well get it. Just don't cry to me when you find out first hand that Socialism and Marxism don't work, especially for AMERICA. Rant off. Lets go RIDE! E -- Only crooked politicians fear guns!!!

[Chromatech1]

Just hope and pray that the USA still has GOD on our side...I think we're in for some really bad times because of this BS. My name is Frank Arriola, and I believe in America, and believe in Death for those who would do her harm. And if you don't like it...in the immortal words of KLRCary..."Tough Shit !"

>>>>>Frank, Your omnipotent God doesn't have control over elections? Clearly you "believe in America" so, if it's your God does cause harm to America, would you believe in the death of your God too?

Just curious, JohnE

[Chromatech1]

No worries Frank, I'm as cool as the other side of the pillow. Don't misinterpret my passion for politics with my outlook on life. Politics is a game, and I enjoy playing it. After the game is over and the election decided, I wish the best for whoever is the next President. I have no illusions or take for granted how lucky I was to be born in America. I believe this country's ultimate destination is "joy unspeakable and full of glory." I know who the real bad guys are, they are spiritual forces in high places, that have to run their course. Who offered Jesus all the kingdoms of this world if he would bow down to him? It wasn't "the man upstairs", is was "the man downstairs". I have plenty of problems with both parties, I have problems with my wife, I have problems with myself, I have problems with my motorcycles, I have problems with my dog, I have problems with my job, because I was "born in sin, shapen in iniquity". But "He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son" will always be my primary focus and goal in life. Every obstacle in life, most self inflicted, is another step up heaven's ladder, with a lot of help from my Best friend.

>>>No big problems here. With reason, rationalism and logic on my side, I'm not depending on any supernatural fantasy to solve my problems. I'm not looking to gain supernatural brownie points for my vain attempts to gain passage into "grand kingdoms" based on scientifically false, archaic claims. Using faith-based terminology, I guess I'm more blessed than most because I'm a non-theist.

My2, JohnE

[Chromatech1]

Sick of Democrats and Republicans? You might be a Libertarian- LP.org Barr/Root 08

[John Kokola]

You don't vote? Sorry, you lost your right to bitch publicly. Go sit in the corner. --John Kokola Michael Van Horn wrote:

> Obama will make Carter and the two Bushies look like statesmen before he is done. > > And he is lying, as well as McCain talking of spending all this money THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO SPEND. > > JUST PLEASE GIVE ME ONE THAT TELLS US WE ARE BROKE!!! AND... I might vote again... > > Michael

[Russell Scott]

Sorry Lyle, I didn't make the laws that govern the universe, including faith. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that comes to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, John Adams, Christopher Columbus, etc., etc, wow, willfully ignorant wishful sheep! Baaa Baaa. Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Isaac Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding God's plan for history from the Bible. He did a considerable work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology was very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being." Lyle, as long as I am in this body of death and corruption, I can't get well, only "one step closer to death". R -----Original Message----- From: Lyle Tollefsen [mailto:lylet@...] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 4:41 AM To: Russell Scott Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. Scott, Once again you proudly parade the bronze-age scribblings of some pre-scientific goat herders and olive stompers as fact. Just once before I die, I'd like someone, (such as yourself, perhaps?) to produce the tiniest bit of evidence to support your death cult claims, but I know it ain't gonna happen. It can't. There are no gods, just a truck load of gullible, willfully ignorant wishfull sheep. Get well soon.

----- Original Message ----- From: Russell Scott Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:55 pm Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. > No worries Frank, I'm as cool as the other side of the pillow. > Don't misinterpret my passion for politics with my outlook on life. > Politics is a game, and I enjoy playing it. After the game is > over and the election decided, I wish the best for whoever is the > next President. I have no illusions or take for granted how lucky > I was to be born in America. I believe this country's ultimate > destination is "joy unspeakable and full of glory." I know who the > real bad guys are, they are spiritual forces in high places, that > have to run their course. Who offered Jesus all the kingdoms of > this world if he would bow down to him? It wasn't "the man > upstairs", is was "the man downstairs". > > I have plenty of problems with both parties, I have problems with > my wife, I have problems with myself, I have problems with my > motorcycles, I have problems with my dog, I have problems with my > job, because I was "born in sin, shapen in iniquity". But "He that > overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he > shall be my son" will always be my primary focus and goal in life. > Every obstacle in life, most self inflicted, is another step up > heaven's ladder, with a lot of help from my Best friend. > > R > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: grbhfng > To: Russell Scott > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 7:56 AM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no > iceberg. He's not intelligent. > > > Chill Russell, haven't you figured out yet that trying to > point out to ObamaIdiots that their "Savior" is not all he's > cracked up to be. > > Like trying to teach a pig to sing...waste your time, and > annoys the pig. > > The sad part is...when their boy shows his true > colors...they will blame it on everything and everyone else...but > not him or their idiotic selfs for following him and buying his BS. > > Just hope and pray that the USA still has GOD on our > side...I think we're in for some really bad times because of this BS. > > My name is Frank Arriola, and I believe in America, and > believe in Death for those who would do her harm. And if you don't > like it...in the immortal words of KLRCary..."Tough Shit !" > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

[Russell Scott]

Eric, I get the impression your legs don't tingle when he speaks. R -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Eric Foster Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:32 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. I don't usually chime in on the pol. crap, but here goes. I can't believe how many have drank the Koolaid and are ready to just fall under the mesmerizing chants of a marxist/socialist. He is ass backwards on the American dream, he hangs with friends who don't just have shady backgrounds, but people with evil back grounds. He hangs with those who attempt to blow up the pentagon and kill police, he had an anti-jew and political bomber for a baby sitter. He has a spriritual leader who feels that America created the aids virus to kill colored folk. He feels the CONSTITUTION IS WRONG, that it should give more power to government. WTF are you THINKING??? Is this what our forefathers died for, what my grandfather spent a life of living hell for? He (and his liberal minions) is against the 1st and 2nd amendments. Is THIS what we want for government? This 250,000 tax line is BS! Last week Nobama slipped and said 200,000, last weekend Biden said 150,000. How long before we reach the 42,000 that he has voted in support of in the past? Tax cuts? My donkey! He's going to give you up to 1500.00 for a political bribe..... err.... laziness reward.... err tax credit, yet has already said he will let Bush's tax breaks sunset next year. That's 3000 more outta your pocket. I suck at math, but....... Bottom line is that I used to work a 7.00 an hour job with under the table overtime. 20 years later, I make 60k doing 60 plus hours a week of LABOR, not sitting behind a damn desk or letting the government give it to me. If someone wants money bad enough, they will find a way. Have some damn pride.. Mccain and Palin aren't the correct answer for what we need, but it's a sure damn whole lot better than this man with no past who has sealed every record of his former life. Why? Why do you suppose he is so secretive? Why does no one get to see his thesis? Can you answer me that? The man is up to something and the liberals damn well know it. You want change? Vote for him and you'll damn well get it. Just don't cry to me when you find out first hand that Socialism and Marxism don't work, especially for AMERICA. Rant off. Lets go RIDE! E -- Only crooked politicians fear guns!!! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]