help me decide on an 02 r1150rt

[Don S]

Considering the miracles it takes to keep them running, they are probably the only two who can afford to ride either Harleys or Brit bikes. Don S. Andy Kirby wrote:

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> > Actually Rev, I heard Jesus has return and he is riding a Harley.

Thats why

> he hasn't arrived yet; still waiting for parts. >

Mike, That suggestion almost perfectly explains to me why we keep seeing HIS likeness on ESPN World Poker Tour playing cards as "Jesus Freguson". When he got to Vegas, he 'stayed in Vegas'. revmaaatin.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Kirby" wrote:

> > > That's strange, my King James Bible tells me that 'Moses came down

from the mountain and the roar of his Triumph was heard all o'er the land' so I'd be surprised if Jesus is not on Brit. iron too .....

> > Andy

Andy, A 'close' reading of the text will reaveal or indicates that the 'Triumph' specified was actually a W650 (=Kawasaki W650, the Triumph clone that actually could be ridden) and that the writer of the sacred, ancient text only had their previous Brit experience to go on, (because of the tariff problems and import duties into Egypt at the time). This writer could only call it a Triumph, because that was the only experience that he had...and called it as he saw it, based on his previous experiences in ancient Cairo, etc. How do we know for sure? Well, what does the text say happened to Moses? He made it down the mountain. If it had been an actual Triumph, Moses would still be on the mountain, and the scriptures record, that Moses actually made it off the mountain, so therefore, Amen and glory above, it was anything but a Triumph. revmaaatin.

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Kirby" wrote: > > > > > > > That's strange, my King James Bible tells me that 'Moses came down > from the mountain and the roar of his Triumph was heard all o'er the > land' so I'd be surprised if Jesus is not on Brit. iron too ..... > > > > Andy > > Andy, > A 'close' reading of the text will reaveal or indicates that > the 'Triumph' specified was actually a W650 (=Kawasaki W650, the > Triumph clone that actually could be ridden) and that the writer of > the sacred, ancient text only had their previous Brit experience to > go on, (because of the tariff problems and import duties into Egypt > at the time). This writer could only call it a Triumph, because that > was the only experience that he had...and called it as he saw it, > based on his previous experiences in ancient Cairo, etc. > > How do we know for sure? Well, what does the text say happened to > Moses? He made it down the mountain. > > If it had been an actual Triumph, Moses would still be on the > mountain, and the scriptures record, that Moses actually made it off > the mountain, so therefore, Amen and glory above, it was anything but > a Triumph. > > revmaaatin. >

if there's any doubt about who is really riding a Triumph, bear in mind that William Lucas was known as "The Prince of Darkness".

[Don S]

If I recall correctly, his electrical system was known as "Lighting by Lucifer". Lucifer being a reference to de debo. (the devil). Jud Jones wrote:

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Kirby" wrote: > > > > > > > That's strange, my King James Bible tells me that 'Moses came down > from the mountain and the roar of his Triumph was heard all o'er the > land' so I'd be surprised if Jesus is not on Brit. iron too ..... > > > > Andy > > Andy, > A 'close' reading of the text will reaveal or indicates that > the 'Triumph' specified was actually a W650 (=Kawasaki W650, the > Triumph clone that actually could be ridden) and that the writer of > the sacred, ancient text only had their previous Brit experience to > go on, (because of the tariff problems and import duties into Egypt > at the time). This writer could only call it a Triumph, because that > was the only experience that he had...and called it as he saw it, > based on his previous experiences in ancient Cairo, etc. > > How do we know for sure? Well, what does the text say happened to > Moses? He made it down the mountain. > > If it had been an actual Triumph, Moses would still be on the > mountain, and the scriptures record, that Moses actually made it off > the mountain, so therefore, Amen and glory above, it was anything but > a Triumph. > > revmaaatin. > if there's any doubt about who is really riding a Triumph, bear in mind that William Lucas was known as "The Prince of Darkness". --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Kevin Powers]

Which explains why, after a hard work week building the world, the Lord was spotted standing next to his bike pleading, "Let there be light!"

On 12/9/06, Don S wrote: > > > If I recall correctly, his electrical system was known as "Lighting by > Lucifer". Lucifer being a reference to de debo. (the devil). > > > > Jud Jones > wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , > "revmaaatin" wrote: > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , "Andy > Kirby" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That's strange, my King James Bible tells me that 'Moses came down > > from the mountain and the roar of his Triumph was heard all o'er the > > land' so I'd be surprised if Jesus is not on Brit. iron too ..... > > > > > > Andy > > > > Andy, > > A 'close' reading of the text will reaveal or indicates that > > the 'Triumph' specified was actually a W650 (=Kawasaki W650, the > > Triumph clone that actually could be ridden) and that the writer of > > the sacred, ancient text only had their previous Brit experience to > > go on, (because of the tariff problems and import duties into Egypt > > at the time). This writer could only call it a Triumph, because that > > was the only experience that he had...and called it as he saw it, > > based on his previous experiences in ancient Cairo, etc. > > > > How do we know for sure? Well, what does the text say happened to > > Moses? He made it down the mountain. > > > > If it had been an actual Triumph, Moses would still be on the > > mountain, and the scriptures record, that Moses actually made it off > > the mountain, so therefore, Amen and glory above, it was anything but > > a Triumph. > > > > revmaaatin. > > > > if there's any doubt about who is really riding a Triumph, bear in mind > that William Lucas > was known as "The Prince of Darkness". > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- Kevin Powers White Bear Lake, MN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Norm Keller]

>If I recall correctly, his electrical system was >known as "Lighting by Lucifer". Lucifer being a >reference to de debo. (the devil).

Actually the reference was to Lucifer matches which, like all Brit lighting burned briefly with a dull light. (VBG) The real irony is that the Brits have pretty well fixed their wiring issues but the Germans haven't. The German wiring of the classic period was every bit as bad as the Brit, consider old VW's or BMW's. See a cage ahead with a light out? Bet it's a VW..... See a cage dead on the roadside? Bet it's a VW..... The catchy reference to Lucas seems to have endured just as any youngster seems to be able to relate that the Edsel was a real lemon. Truth is they were the same as the Fords of the time, not bad cars compared to their competition. The Edsel's problem was the styling was ahead of the time so the public rejected it. We serviced lots of them in the 1960's. The real issue with old Brit bikes was that they leaked and weeped oil because the castings were porous. Modern gasket sealants make a big difference and there are processes for sealing porous castings which some of the restorers use. Makes a big difference to the old things. If you haven't a Trophy or Bonneville, you've really missed an experience. Actually, two experiences as, no matter how prepared you think you are, that reversed brake and shifter are really frightening. I don't know which is worse, downshifting for braking and skidding the rear wheel while it over revs or jogging out of line from popping the rear brake instead of the perfectly timed downshift....... Ride a Gold Star (500 cc BSA single cafe racer) for a fantastic experience. There are simply no words to describe starting one although I've used every word I knew. I've heard others use even more words........(VBG) Once or maybe, IF, you get one going it is surprising how quick the old girls were. I properly prepped one would give a KLR some tough times on a road course. Actually it would be really neat to read a ride report of a head to head with the riders swapping bikes 1/2 way. Anyone have access? If you need a volunteer and KLR................ Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Norm Keller" wrote:

> > Ride a Gold Star (500 cc BSA single cafe racer) for a fantastic experience. There are

simply no words to describe starting one although I've used every word I knew. I've heard others use even more words........(VBG)

> > Once or maybe, IF, you get one going it is surprising how quick the old girls were. I

properly prepped one would give a KLR some tough times on a road course. Actually it would be really neat to read a ride report of a head to head with the riders swapping bikes 1/2 way.

>

The second bike I owned was a DBD34 Gold Star. It was a pretty cool bike, much to cool for me, but I did more or less master the starting drill. Until I did, and every once in a while even after. the kick lever would come back up about as fast as I had kicked it down. It would lift me right with it (I weighed about half what I do now) and deposit me unceremoniously on the grass next to the bike. Whenever the bike was a runner I nursed a chronic high ankle sprain, not unlike the one I later carried in my left leg from starting a CZ. It was a fast bike, gathering speed in a manner that felt deceptively lazy. But the Goldie was too much a thoroughbred to be a real comparison for the KLR (although I suspect the kawi would cover most roads faster). I have often wondered how the KLR would have been regarded some fifty years ago in comparison to the more utilitarian singles like the Matchless g80 and the Ariel Red Hunter.

[Don S]

Thanks for that clarification Norm. This forum is fortunate to have such a wealth of knowledge from contributors such as yourself. Don. Norm Keller wrote:

>If I recall correctly, his electrical system was >known as "Lighting by Lucifer". Lucifer being a >reference to de debo. (the devil).

Actually the reference was to Lucifer matches which, like all Brit lighting burned briefly with a dull light. (VBG) The real irony is that the Brits have pretty well fixed their wiring issues but the Germans haven't. The German wiring of the classic period was every bit as bad as the Brit, consider old VW's or BMW's. See a cage ahead with a light out? Bet it's a VW..... See a cage dead on the roadside? Bet it's a VW..... The catchy reference to Lucas seems to have endured just as any youngster seems to be able to relate that the Edsel was a real lemon. Truth is they were the same as the Fords of the time, not bad cars compared to their competition. The Edsel's problem was the styling was ahead of the time so the public rejected it. We serviced lots of them in the 1960's. The real issue with old Brit bikes was that they leaked and weeped oil because the castings were porous. Modern gasket sealants make a big difference and there are processes for sealing porous castings which some of the restorers use. Makes a big difference to the old things. If you haven't a Trophy or Bonneville, you've really missed an experience. Actually, two experiences as, no matter how prepared you think you are, that reversed brake and shifter are really frightening. I don't know which is worse, downshifting for braking and skidding the rear wheel while it over revs or jogging out of line from popping the rear brake instead of the perfectly timed downshift....... Ride a Gold Star (500 cc BSA single cafe racer) for a fantastic experience. There are simply no words to describe starting one although I've used every word I knew. I've heard others use even more words........(VBG) Once or maybe, IF, you get one going it is surprising how quick the old girls were. I properly prepped one would give a KLR some tough times on a road course. Actually it would be really neat to read a ride report of a head to head with the riders swapping bikes 1/2 way. Anyone have access? If you need a volunteer and KLR................ Norm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Matt Knowles]

On Dec 9, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Norm Keller wrote:

> See a cage dead on the roadside? Bet it's a VW.....

See a cage on fire on the side of the road? Bet it's a VW... Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned