to each his own. - lube

[klr6501995]

I can respect that reason.Your season is after all regulated. I really do not like(puke) meat eaters who are against hunting. I always respect a no tresspassing or locked gate. Maybe what would help us explorative riders (4 wheelers suck, they really like to tear up, not much skill needed to stay upright) would be a reason posted along with verboten sign. What is the authority of local police on federal property ? There is jetty in Mayport Fla that I sometimes stop at and don't like to leave the bike out of site in this park. I can eaily go around the gate on the pedestrian walk around trail. From there it is a 1000 yards or more to the end on 10ft wide shell road. No signs forbiding motor vehicles and with no fear I ride it on my bicycle. Fishermen are in sight (~100 yards)but surely all the boat traffic has the fish desensitzed.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Robert Drake wrote: > Living in Montana is quite an adventure. Hunting is not just a passion > or a sport, it is life for many of the residents. > When a person spends a very large sum on archery gear, camoflauge, > scent-free clothing, and countless hours of scouting (days away from > his/her family) he/she should be able to enjoy his sport of choice in > peace. After preparing for months - even years and hiking in miles, > he/she is calling and hears elk bugling back and forth around him/her. > In many cases he/she will not have any elk in range weekend after > weekend. Just once though, there is a trophy bull close enough for a > good shot and the sound of a screaming ATV scares it away. This is all > too common. All of the gates are locked throughout the hunting seasons > to make "fair chase" exactly what it means. Why should someone walk > into an area for days to have some unsporting ass, ride around the gate > and ruin a well planned and prepared for hunt just so he can get there > without any effort? I'm all for trail access and allowing people on any > form of transportation to use the outdoors but, let's consider ALL > outdoors enthusiasts. There is a reason the gate is locked: maybe the > last "users" didn't treat the area with respect and there is repair in > progress, or maybe there is several cases of bear or mountain lion > attacks, or just maybe the area is closed so the Sierra Club can enjoy > the pristine forest without the sounds of mechanical beasts. The real > side of this WE all need to look at is: we have a sport with issues that > some people don't like. If we intend to make our riding lives more > challenging, keep going beyond the locked gates. If we expect to > increase or maintain our riding areas, we need to respect the rules. > Locked gates are there for a reason and one of those reasons may be to > avoid someone getting an arrow or bullet. There are other sports out > there that have just as much passion as our own. > > I need to be just as tolerant of others sports as I expect them to be of > mine. When we show others the "how can I help the other guy" attitude, > people become more accepting of our flaws too. That type of attitude > makes us better spouses, fathers, mothers, children, friends, > riders......... and people. > > Here are a few sites of groups working for OUR privilege to access > trails. http://www.rockymountaindirtriders.com/index.html > http://www.sharetrails.org/ > http://www.montanawildlands.org/ > http://www.laragb.org/ > http://www.orbanet.org/index.shtml > http://www.imba.com/ > > > Baron Tynan wrote: > > >Greetings, > > > >Just got back from a trip that involved lots of locked forestry > >service gates and three very unhappy riders which brings up the poll > >question: To pass or not to pass?? > > > >Bonsall Baron > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Jim]

Well said, and thanks for including swimmers. We regularly swim in open water, down swollen rivers and have even freestiled from Alcatraz to Aquatic park a couple of times. Gotta do whatcha can when ya can, I reckon. --Jim A-15

> It's interesting to listen to the debate. Motorcyclists, hunters,

hikers, bikers, swimmers, etc. We're all just critters bound and damned determined to have our own way.

> > Chaz

[BLBacon]

In reference to the question of using an established road. I would have to say that it would depend if it was a "deeded" right of way or not. This is the legal part of it. On the farm that my father had, the township, here in the Commonwealth of PA, decided that they did not want to maintian a road that went across our property, in fact, they hadn't maintained it for all of my life and longer. My father asked them to either maitian it or take it off the maps. So they took it off. I should say that the existing road went past our house at a distance of about 1 1/2 feet. This was our driveway. And the real right of way went up and over a bank that they did not want to put back. They wanted to run it right by our house. Anyways they took it off their maps and we gated the road and the Twp road comes in to the gate from the other way now. The reason: we have had several things come up missing in our scrap piles when we went to get them, and people traversing our fields. Our land is open to the public and is enrolled in a PA game Commision program. There are signs on the gate that say "No Motorized Vehicles." We only have 190 acres and if you can't walk that small distance to hunt, then you should have a handicapped permit. There are not any dirt bikes around that area (and I can't figure out why; it's perfect DS territory), so the only people that we really bothered are the poachers. Oh! about the maybe even some hot sex with a "28 year old widowed nymphomaniac millionairess that owns a liquor store," is this the voice of experience, Stu? Brent Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:19:26 -0500 From: Alan L Henderson I agree. That being said, what happens when a person buys property that has a road that traditionally has been used by the public to get from one place to the other crossing their property? The road is on private property but has always been open for the public to use. Can you post as no trespassing or do you have to leave it accessible whether gated or not. I know I have been in several places where roads are posted as being on private property and to respect the area and close gates. Of course going off the road is an entirely different subject. Alan Henderson A13 Iowa where there are roads every mile

[rsanders30117]

At home, I have two 4"x4" post that fit under the tips of the rear swing arm. These posts level up my A14 & just get the rear tire of the ground for lubing. Away from home, I cut a 1"x2" just long enough to get the rear tire off the ground when leaning on the side stand and then I can lube the chain. To install it, I stand at the muffler then pick up the luggage rack with my left hand plus lean against it while wedging the prop stick under the right tip of the swing arm. It's stable enough to spin the rear tire for lubing. This stick packs easily & not much lost if I misplace it.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kusstj" wrote: > Just and idea - then trust me I will drop the subject. (not the bike) > perhaps you can try this first and you may be surprized how easy it > is. The KLR is not heavy as far as bikes go. > > For Safety, Leave the motor off and just try leaning the bike on its > stand in order to raise the rear wheel. The bike will balance there > and you really dont exert at all once you get it properly leaning. > You'll be surprized you can let it hang there quite effortlessly for a > couple minutes if you wish. > ok maybe I am a bigger than average guy, but I've seen lots of small > guys toss around a KLR a whole lot better than I can. > > Again, If it still makes you uncomfortable don't bother. > > I will go back into my dangerous hole now. > > thankyou for listening. > > Todd

[BLBacon]

Chaz, A lot of my time is spent trying to reverse the effects of these "so called" sportsman. Pleas don't lump them into my category of hunter and outdoorsman. Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:31:27 -0700 From: "Chaz Cooper - Hotmail" Subject: Re: NKLR New Poll - Locked Gate - To Pass or Not to Pass? It's interesting to listen to the debate. Motorcyclists, hunters, hikers, bikers, swimmers, etc. We're all just critters bound and damned determined to have our own way.

[Chaz Cooper - Hotmail]

Thanks! I thought I had (and probably have) pissed a bunch of people off with my comments. Chuck (new to me) A15 also...

----- Original Message ----- From: Jim To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR New Poll - Locked Gate - To Pass or Not to Pass? Well said, and thanks for including swimmers. We regularly swim in open water, down swollen rivers and have even freestiled from Alcatraz to Aquatic park a couple of times. Gotta do whatcha can when ya can, I reckon. --Jim A-15 > It's interesting to listen to the debate. Motorcyclists, hunters, hikers, bikers, swimmers, etc. We're all just critters bound and damned determined to have our own way. > > Chaz Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]