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[Gary Charpentier]

Chris, It works like this: Now look carefully... O\O The "O" is one bolt or nut, and the \ is the safety wire. If either bolt or nut tries to loosen, it will effectively tighten the other, so neither one loosens. When you secure a safety-wired fastener to a solid piece of hardware, you wire it to the the side clockwise from the hole. I hope that makes it clear enough. There are a whole lot of subtleties involved that will have a safety-wire geek talking your ear off for a week, but these are the basics. Good Luck, =gc= former Sgt., USMC VMFP-3 Tactical Recconnaissance squadron, and safety wire expert. --- Chris wrote:

> Can anyone explain how safety wiring works? I sort of have an idea, > as in drill through the head of a bolt and tie off bailing wire to > 'something' to prevent it rotating?? I'm a bit confused trying to > visualize what you tie off to...or I'm missing something as far as > how > it works. > > I'm guessing that with an axle nut, you would drill through the nut > and > axle and tie wire through the assembly, I've seen things like this. > The drain plug threw me, as far as what the wire goes through to stop > the rotation. > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 12:46:57AM -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > I drilled mine for safety wire. I barely tighten it more than > hand > > tight, and wire it. A 1/16" drill bit through the flats of the > drain > > plug, and any stainless baling wire that fits in the hole will do. > > > > -- > __ ___ __ > / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ > / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_- /_/|_/_/_//_/\_, /___/\_, /\_,_/\__/\_,_/_/\_\ > /___/ /_/GPG KEY finger > @... > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Chris]

Thanks all for the replies, it's much clearer now. To summarize the other suggestions and comments. You can tie off to adjacent points of opportunity, bore holes in any spare lugs, tie to body pieces, tie off to other nuts, solder on terminal lugs. The list went on. Now I get it.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 09:57:12AM -0700, Gary Charpentier wrote: > Chris, > > It works like this: Now look carefully... O\O > > The "O" is one bolt or nut, and the \ is the safety wire. If either > bolt or nut tries to loosen, it will effectively tighten the other, so > neither one loosens. When you secure a safety-wired fastener to a solid > piece of hardware, you wire it to the the side clockwise from the hole. > > > I hope that makes it clear enough. There are a whole lot of subtleties > involved that will have a safety-wire geek talking your ear off for a > week, but these are the basics. > > Good Luck, > =gc= > former Sgt., USMC VMFP-3 Tactical Recconnaissance squadron, and safety > wire expert. > > --- Chris wrote: > > Can anyone explain how safety wiring works? I sort of have an idea, > > as in drill through the head of a bolt and tie off bailing wire to > > 'something' to prevent it rotating?? I'm a bit confused trying to > > visualize what you tie off to...or I'm missing something as far as > > how > > it works. > > > > I'm guessing that with an axle nut, you would drill through the nut > > and > > axle and tie wire through the assembly, I've seen things like this. > > The drain plug threw me, as far as what the wire goes through to stop > > the rotation. > > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 12:46:57AM -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > I drilled mine for safety wire. I barely tighten it more than > > hand > > > tight, and wire it. A 1/16" drill bit through the flats of the > > drain > > > plug, and any stainless baling wire that fits in the hole will do. > > > > > > > -- > > __ ___ __ > > / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ > > / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_- > /_/|_/_/_//_/\_, /___/\_, /\_,_/\__/\_,_/_/\_\ > > /___/ /_/GPG KEY finger > > @... > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com -- __ ___ __ / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_-

[Smitty]

Here's a page with some safety wire instructions. Might give you some pointers. Safety wire pliers are nice to have, but not a necessity. Smitty (the new guy/lurker on the list)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" To: "Gary Charpentier" Cc: "KLR650 group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] oil change > Thanks all for the replies, it's much clearer now. To summarize the > other suggestions and comments. You can tie off to adjacent points of > opportunity, bore holes in any spare lugs, tie to body pieces, tie off > to other nuts, solder on terminal lugs. The list went on. Now I get > it. > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 09:57:12AM -0700, Gary Charpentier wrote: > > Chris, > > > > It works like this: Now look carefully... O\O > > > > The "O" is one bolt or nut, and the \ is the safety wire. If either > > bolt or nut tries to loosen, it will effectively tighten the other, so > > neither one loosens. When you secure a safety-wired fastener to a solid > > piece of hardware, you wire it to the the side clockwise from the hole. > > > > > > I hope that makes it clear enough. There are a whole lot of subtleties > > involved that will have a safety-wire geek talking your ear off for a > > week, but these are the basics. > > > > Good Luck, > > =gc= > > former Sgt., USMC VMFP-3 Tactical Recconnaissance squadron, and safety > > wire expert. > > > > --- Chris wrote: > > > Can anyone explain how safety wiring works? I sort of have an idea, > > > as in drill through the head of a bolt and tie off bailing wire to > > > 'something' to prevent it rotating?? I'm a bit confused trying to > > > visualize what you tie off to...or I'm missing something as far as > > > how > > > it works. > > > > > > I'm guessing that with an axle nut, you would drill through the nut > > > and > > > axle and tie wire through the assembly, I've seen things like this. > > > The drain plug threw me, as far as what the wire goes through to stop > > > the rotation. > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 12:46:57AM -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > > > I drilled mine for safety wire. I barely tighten it more than > > > hand > > > > tight, and wire it. A 1/16" drill bit through the flats of the > > > drain > > > > plug, and any stainless baling wire that fits in the hole will do. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > __ ___ __ > > > / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ > > > / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_- > > /_/|_/_/_//_/\_, /___/\_, /\_,_/\__/\_,_/_/\_\ > > > /___/ /_/GPG KEY finger > > > @... > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ > > > courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > -- > __ ___ __ > / //_(_)__ _http://www.kingsqueak.org _/ /__ > / ,< / / _ \/ _ `(_- /_/|_/_/_//_/\_, /___/\_, /\_,_/\__/\_,_/_/\_\ > /___/ /_/GPG KEY finger > @... > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Smitty]

Oops! Forgot to add the URL to the safety wire page. Been a long day, I hate working Saturdays, but the pay is good. Any way here's the URL: http://www.geocities.com/robm351/pantera/index-24.html In the Wind !

----- Original Message ----- From: "Smitty" To: "Gary Charpentier" Cc: "KLR650 group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] oil change > Here's a page with some safety wire instructions. Might give you some > pointers. Safety wire pliers are nice to have, but not a necessity. > Smitty > (the new guy/lurker on the list) > > > >

[kwhite7s@aol.com]

Hi Guys, am changing the oil, so can anyone tell me :- 1) How much oil my Tengai will take ????? 2) any preference between 10/40 or 15/40 ???????? Cheers Karen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Walter Mitty]

Two quarts and about 8 ounces will bring it up to the full line with a filter change. Shouldn't notice any difference between 10w40 and 15w40. kwhite7s@... wrote: Hi Guys, am changing the oil, so can anyone tell me :- 1) How much oil my Tengai will take ????? 2) any preference between 10/40 or 15/40 ???????? Cheers Karen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim]

10W-50, JASO MA wood b duh bahm; $. Jim A17

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, kwhite7s@... wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > am changing the oil, so can anyone tell me :- > > 1) How much oil my Tengai will take ????? > > 2) any preference between 10/40 or 15/40 ???????? > > Cheers > > Karen > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[W.V. Doran]

2.5 liters according to the manual...2 qts plus 19 oz's according to Elden Carl. I use 20w50 and Elden's amount. 7 years all OK. Walter Mitty wrote: Two quarts and about 8 ounces will bring it up to the full line with a filter change. Shouldn't notice any difference between 10w40 and 15w40. kwhite7s@... wrote: Hi Guys, am changing the oil, so can anyone tell me :- 1) How much oil my Tengai will take ????? 2) any preference between 10/40 or 15/40 ???????? Cheers Karen [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links WVDoran Scottsdale, AZ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ronald Criswell]

Ditto on Eldons method. I am at 39,000 miles and have switched over from expensive synthetic / dino blend to cheap Shell Rotella 15W / 40W. 2 mechanics that whose opinion I trust were big on it. Oh no, oil again. Pretty soon Jennifer will emerge. Criswell

On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:42 AM, W.V. Doran wrote: > 2.5 liters according to the manual...2 qts plus 19 oz's according > to Elden Carl. > I use 20w50 and Elden's amount. 7 years all OK. > > Walter Mitty wrote: > Two quarts and about 8 ounces will bring it up to the full line > with a filter change. Shouldn't notice any difference between 10w40 > and 15w40. > > kwhite7s@... wrote: Hi Guys, > > am changing the oil, so can anyone tell me :- > > 1) How much oil my Tengai will take ????? > > 2) any preference between 10/40 or 15/40 ???????? > > Cheers > > Karen > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > WVDoran > Scottsdale, AZ > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[a14@att.net]

> Oh no, > oil again. Pretty soon Jennifer will emerge. > > Criswell >

Jennifer will emerge if you click this link. http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650/photo/252231> Walt