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[Crazy canuck]

It's time to remove your head from the sand. What you received from the BBC was an international wake-up call as to how the majority of the world REALLY views the US. Obama offers a way to change that, and even has many of us 'foreigners' convinced he will suceed if given the chance. It would be a truly wasted opportunity to squander this. As one of the 'experts' on last night's CBC documentary 'The Bush Years' declared, 30% of Americans would vote Republican if Donald Duck was the candidate, and another 30% would vote Democrat for Minnie Mouse. It's the remaining percent that will decide this election. I'm pulling for someone who appears he DOESN'T feel that the US HAS to be the pre-eminent religious, cultural, economic (?) and military force in this world at the expense of any and all who hold contrary beliefs. Thank crikey it will be determined soon. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Crazy, thanks but no thanks for enlightening me. Sorry, I don't leave my head in the sand. I actually read a lot of history (like real books). There have been quite a few populist elected over the years who promised the world ..... ah but delivered quite a bit that was not so great. Lets see .... Hitler would be numero uno, followed by guys like Juan Peron, Hugo Chavez, Allende in Chili (who was wrecking the country before Pinoche stepped in). Fidel wasn't elected but gave a good speech ....... hmmm ...like Obama. Sorry if I don't see him as America's next Messiah. I am not that enamored with Republicans or McCain either. Giuliani or Romney was my pick. One is a great ex mayor of NYC who ran the city well and the other was a good Republican Governor of liberal Massachusetts. Rudi however is probably Catholic and Mitt is Mormon which is a big negative with evangelicals in the Republican Party but not with me. Now they will probably help elect a liberal socialist which I am not. Criswell

On Oct 27, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Crazy canuck wrote: > It's time to remove your head from the sand. What you received from > the BBC was an international wake-up call as to how the majority of > the world REALLY views the US. Obama offers a way to change that, > and even has many of us 'foreigners' convinced he will suceed if > given the chance. It would be a truly wasted opportunity to > squander this. As one of the 'experts' on last night's CBC > documentary 'The Bush Years' declared, 30% of Americans would vote > Republican if Donald Duck was the candidate, and another 30% would > vote Democrat for Minnie Mouse. It's the remaining percent that > will decide this election. I'm pulling for someone who appears he > DOESN'T feel that the US HAS to be the pre-eminent religious, > cultural, economic (?) and military force in this world at the > expense of any and all who hold contrary beliefs. > > Thank crikey it will be determined soon. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "roncriswell@..." wrote:

> > I just spent a week in Sicily and had to listen to BBC's left wing > rant on America (the only gringo news there). No wonder the world

has

> a crappy image of America. They are worse than NBC, CBS and ABC > combined. > Criswell

Ron, Ron, Ron, How could you possibly ruin a week in Sicily by listening to the BBC! sigh. I lived there 2 years from 86-88 near Catania, working at the Naval Air Station Sigonella and regret, deeply regret that I did not know about KLR's when I lived there. What an absolutely perfect place for a KLR. A variety of terrain from coastal to mountain and volcano--and it is all, very well mapped! I also hope you had some peche spada, insalata polipo, and mozzarella di bufala while you were there as well. If you did, then all is forgiven. revmaaatin.

[Richard Shelton]

Lets make a deal with the rest of the world...they can have Obama as their new leader, the messiah, the leader of the new world order, and we will do just fine without him, thank-you. If the good ole USA is so bad, and we did fine before the Messiah appeared, why do people continue to risk life and limb to come to this country. Could it be the rest of the world offers little or no freedom, those socialist and marxist hell holes. Could it be that they see the light. Go to Eastern Europe where those folks lived under the iron rule of socialistic tyrants for decades; I have been there numerous times...if you are American, you are a hero to them. They shake their heads at the whiners in this country. Obama will bring this country closer to the tyrants they hate and we will learn to hate also. I note Canada went conservative in their last election...why...the socialistc/marxist philosiphy losing it's appeal up north, aye? If the Messiah wins I just might become Canadian myself...at least you people are coming to your senses. And, ask me if I care what some marxist or socialist, soon to be the European Nation of Islam, thinks about my country and I will tell you, "I don't give a damn!" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.comFrom: elcanaco@...: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:21:51 -0700Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. It's time to remove your head from the sand. What you received from the BBC was an international wake-up call as to how the majority of the world REALLY views the US. Obama offers a way to change that, and even has many of us 'foreigners' convinced he will suceed if given the chance. It would be a truly wasted opportunity to squander this. As one of the 'experts' on last night's CBC documentary 'The Bush Years' declared, 30% of Americans would vote Republican if Donald Duck was the candidate, and another 30% would vote Democrat for Minnie Mouse. It's the remaining percent that will decide this election. I'm pulling for someone who appears he DOESN'T feel that the US HAS to be the pre-eminent religious, cultural, economic (?) and military force in this world at the expense of any and all who hold contrary beliefs. Thank crikey it will be determined soon.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ When your life is on the go take your life with you. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298558/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Russell Scott]

Ron, I was over in Ireland last month, and all I had was Sky News, BBC, and some French broadcast. I didn't hear one bad thing about Obama/Biden, or one thing good about McCain/Palin. Talk about a rigged game, if ignorance is bliss. R

----- Original Message ----- From: roncriswell@... To: Larry Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. I just spent a week in Sicily and had to listen to BBC's left wing rant on America (the only gringo news there). No wonder the world has a crappy image of America. They are worse than NBC, CBS and ABC combined. Criswell On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Larry wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Russell Scott" > wrote: > > > > I believe all things are going to come into sharp and clear focus in > the > > next few years, as far as what the real battle over planet Earth, > the > souls > > of man, and the real purpose of life is. It will rise out of all > this > > confusion, heartache, trouble, and pain. And its going to make the > most > > outrageous superhero movie look like a kiddy play. In other words, I > am > > incredibly optimistic about man's long term future. > > > > R > > Well said. I watch you American's bare your souls and struggle with > difficult issues while the world watches. This long election campaign > (almost 2 years) has exposed some deep divisions in american culture > that are being discussed more openly than ever before. This election > has captured a world audiance as it offers a choice between the future > and the past that we all can relate to. I think more countries will > face these demons in the future. I am respectful of your struggle and > honestly feel the US will emerge greater than ever and be a model the > free world will follow. Who would have thought that 2 years ago? > Larry. > Canada. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Larry]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Richard Shelton wrote:

>I note Canada went conservative in their last election...why...the

socialistc/marxist philosiphy losing it's appeal up north, aye? If the Messiah wins I just might become Canadian myself...at least you

>people are coming to your senses.

Just to clarify: We had an election 2 weeks ago that resulted in a Conservative minority government. The previous government was also a Conservative minority. The reason we still have a Conservative minority government is mainly due to the unpopular leader of the opposition Liberal Party, as we tend to vote for a leader rather than a political doctrine. We are not a socialist country and I doubt the US is headed that way. Although today, the Marxist threat appeared. Socialism by definition. 1) An economic system in which the basic means of production are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by government under some system of central planning. 2) An "economic, social and political doctrine which expresses the struggle for the equal distribution of wealth by eliminating private property and the exploitative ruling class. In practice, such a distribution of wealth is achieved by social ownership of the means of production, exchange and diffusion." What it is not: The collection of taxes by a central government to be returned to the public in a way that enhances and improves their quality and enjoyment of lifestyle. Comrade Larry over and out.

[Steve Strader]

First off, I hope nothing shows on this reply but me... If it's "socialism" that Obama espouses than count me in. I'm sick and tired of "trickle down economics" and such. The rich are getting richer and the middle class is being eliminated. Who on this list can complain about taxes being raised on those who earn more than 250k? If you don't like it I bet you have a BMW or KTM in your garage. I lost my good paying job in Jan. of '08 and took what I could immediately W/O going on unemployment. With masive O/T I almost made as much as before. Then the O/T dried up as the economy went south. Now I am looking at both foreclosure and bankruptcy. B/K will maybe allow me to keep paying for my mortgage if I'm lucky. My father went to WWll and lived through the great depression. He was able to raise a familly, send us to college on his salary alone. My wife and I are up against the wall thanks to RR, and GB1 and GB2's "trickle down". My learning disabled daughter (god bless her drive for knowledge I never had) just got a guarenteed acceptance to UC (University of California) but I can't afford to send her. Hopefully grants and other financial aid (considered "socialism" by some. I'm sure) will allow her to reach her full potential. America (as in USA) has recieved a black eye in world opinion over the last 8 years. Hopefully we (USA) can redeem our worldwide reputation as a country of tolerance and understanding like we were after WWll. I believe Barack Obama is capable of restoring the world's faith in the USA. If I didn't, I wouldn't have spent all this time typing. I'm a very slow and tedious typer after all. Sorry if this pisses you off for not being an oil thread or makes you want to unsubscribe. If anything, please go ride your KLR and be glad you live in the best nation on Earth... Steve Strader, Ukiah, CA '06 Greenie (of course) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Richard Shelton wrote:

> > I note Canada went conservative in their last election...why...the socialistc/marxist

philosiphy losing it's appeal up north, aye? If the Messiah wins I just might become Canadian myself...at least you people are coming to your senses.

> >

We had a Conservative government BEFORE the election call, TOO!!! THANK GOD!!! ; >) Ed

[Russell Scott]

Steve, your making a basic assumption, that Obama is honest. And I'm faster than James Stewart. He makes Bill Clinton look like honest Abe. Remember how the summer of love turned out. Started out with utopian ideas of peace and love, and by the end of the summer, turned into a cesspool of STD's, overdoses, and sleeping in your vomit. All high minded idealism always crashes and burns when it hits the wall of reality. R

----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Strader To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. First off, I hope nothing shows on this reply but me... If it's "socialism" that Obama espouses than count me in. I'm sick and tired of "trickle down economics" and such. The rich are getting richer and the middle class is being eliminated. Who on this list can complain about taxes being raised on those who earn more than 250k? If you don't like it I bet you have a BMW or KTM in your garage. I lost my good paying job in Jan. of '08 and took what I could immediately W/O going on unemployment. With masive O/T I almost made as much as before. Then the O/T dried up as the economy went south. Now I am looking at both foreclosure and bankruptcy. B/K will maybe allow me to keep paying for my mortgage if I'm lucky. My father went to WWll and lived through the great depression. He was able to raise a familly, send us to college on his salary alone. My wife and I are up against the wall thanks to RR, and GB1 and GB2's "trickle down". My learning disabled daughter (god bless her drive for knowledge I never had) just got a guarenteed acceptance to UC (University of California) but I can't afford to send her. Hopefully grants and other financial aid (considered "socialism" by some. I'm sure) will allow her to reach her full potential. America (as in USA) has recieved a black eye in world opinion over the last 8 years. Hopefully we (USA) can redeem our worldwide reputation as a country of tolerance and understanding like we were after WWll. I believe Barack Obama is capable of restoring the world's faith in the USA. If I didn't, I wouldn't have spent all this time typing. I'm a very slow and tedious typer after all. Sorry if this pisses you off for not being an oil thread or makes you want to unsubscribe. If anything, please go ride your KLR and be glad you live in the best nation on Earth... Steve Strader, Ukiah, CA '06 Greenie (of course) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud Jones]

Russell, you are making a basic assumption that Obama is dishonest. I have not seen anything from his performance that suggests that. I hear a lot of righties saying that, but see nothing of substance to back it up. Certainly nothing on a par with Bush's fundamental and innate dishonesty or Palin's ethical lapses, and not a hint of venality. Obama will not be able to do everything he promises, but what politician ever has? Obama strikes me as more pragmatic than idealistic, with a great deal of apparent leadership ability, which is probably what has drawn a large number of conservatives into his camp recently despite their disagreement with his policies. No doubt he will prove to be a different guy than the one we thought we had elected, but I would be surprised if the dissonance should even approach the gap we got between "Bush the Uniter" that people voted for and the divisive neocon demagogue who actually took office.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Russell Scott" wrote: > > Steve, your making a basic assumption, that Obama is honest. And I'm faster than James Stewart. He makes Bill Clinton look like honest Abe. Remember how the summer of love turned out. Started out with utopian ideas of peace and love, and by the end of the summer, turned into a cesspool of STD's, overdoses, and sleeping in your vomit. All high minded idealism always crashes and burns when it hits the wall of reality. > > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Strader > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:56 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR McCain is all tip and no iceberg. He's not intelligent. > > > First off, I hope nothing shows on this reply but me... If it's "socialism" that Obama espouses than count me in. I'm sick and tired of "trickle down economics" and such. The rich are getting richer and the middle class is being eliminated. Who on this list can complain about taxes being raised on those who earn more than 250k? If you don't like it I bet you have a BMW or KTM in your garage. > > I lost my good paying job in Jan. of '08 and took what I could immediately W/O going on unemployment. With masive O/T I almost made as much as before. Then the O/T dried up as the economy went south. Now I am looking at both foreclosure and bankruptcy. B/K will maybe allow me to keep paying for my mortgage if I'm lucky. My father went to WWll and lived through the great depression. He was able to raise a familly, send us to college on his salary alone. My wife and I are up against the wall thanks to RR, and GB1 and GB2's "trickle down". My learning disabled daughter (god bless her drive for knowledge I never had) just got a guarenteed acceptance to UC (University of California) but I can't afford to send her. Hopefully grants and other financial aid (considered "socialism" by some. I'm sure) will allow her to reach her full potential. > > America (as in USA) has recieved a black eye in world opinion over the last 8 years. Hopefully we (USA) can redeem our worldwide reputation as a country of tolerance and understanding like we were after WWll. I believe Barack Obama is capable of restoring the world's faith in the USA. If I didn't, I wouldn't have spent all this time typing. I'm a very slow and tedious typer after all. Sorry if this pisses you off for not being an oil thread or makes you want to unsubscribe. > > If anything, please go ride your KLR and be glad you live in the best nation on Earth... > > Steve Strader, Ukiah, CA > '06 Greenie (of course) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >