nklr mesquite to toroweap point ride suggestions

[Blake Sobiloff]

On Apr 1, 2007, at 5:20 AM, Douglas Bouley wrote:

> I'm a 99/1 street rider/all weather commuter, but would like to try a > bit more dirty stuff this year.

Doug, if you can have only one set of tires for everything, and you're a 99/1 street/dirt rider, the closest I'd get to a knobby is a TKC-80. Face it, you really need the good street grip far more than you need a great off-road tire. A TKC-80 has a nice compound that grips the street well, and the big blocks don't squirm around like a real knobby, letting you get very close to normal lean angles on the street. Even a real knobby isn't going to make up for your admitted lack of off-road skill, so don't do something that'll severely compromise your bike's grip 99 times out of 100. Please understand that I'm not bashin' ya', Doug! I went through the same deliberations you're going through. I ended up deciding that it was more important to be able to avoid the errant car or road debris than it was to have the best possible off-road grip. Off-road, I'll just take it a bit easier. I'm not trying to win any races off-road, and I'll still get where I'm going. Heck, I might even have a chance to enjoy the view a little longer. Best wishes, and safe riding! -- Blake Sobiloff http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> San Jose, CA (USA) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David C.]

At 02:23 PM 4/1/2007 +0000, you wrote:

>Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. > Posted by: "Dooden" dooden@... Dooden > Date: Sun Apr 1, 2007 4:28 am ((PDT)) > >Mefo 99 Explorers ? > >Should have had Kenda K-270's mounted, even mostly worn out mine will >pull the ole KLR through alot of swampy yuck.

Do they make K270s to fit a Concours? I got the Connie stuck in the YARD yesterday. I was riding down my (900 foot long gravel) drive way, got a leg cramp, swerved off the gravel into the "yard" and got stuck. ME880s are lousy mud tires....a couple of buckets of gravel under the back tire got me going again. No, I didn't drop it.... At least it was the north side of the drive way which is sorta grass; the south side is a ditch. Dave C

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Bouley wrote:

> > I read Luke's excellent Mexico trip report on ADV and he says pretty > much the same thing about Explorers in mud. > > I'm getting ready to buy tires soon and the MEFOs were on my short list. > However, reading this and that and especially Jeff Saline, I'm coming > around to the Kenda K270 POV. > > One sissy question though: how do they compare to other choices for ease > of changing/bead breaking? I've read folks talk about some tires being > much easier than others to change. Being a wuss, I'd rather have easier, > all other things being reasonably equal. > > I'm a 99/1 street rider/all weather commuter, but would like to try a > bit more dirty stuff this year. I imagine almost any tire would be less > scary off hard pavement than the stock ones (said by a long-time road > rider with no real dirt experience)! > > doug in dc > > Dooden wrote: > > Mefo 99 Explorers ? > >

What is all this excitement about the Mefo 99? Supposedly a super high mileage tire, I have read about one that went 11k, another 17k, the rest all seem to hav gone 4-6k, about what most people report from kendas. The three rear kendas on my KLR have averaged 9500 miles. I took one off my DR650 at 7500 miles after running it 2000 miles in Mexico at 22psi. It still had useable tread. The Mefo goes for $90; I usually pay $35 for a kenda. The Kenda is not the best-performing street tire, but at touring speeds I don't notice its deficiencies. To justify its price, the Mefo needs to go 25,000 miles. Haven't heard about one of those yet. If I could get one for $35 bucks, I'd be glad to see how long I can make one last. I don't think the K270s are any easier or harder to mount than anything else. I have done quite a few of them, and except for a few frustrating passages where the bead was reluctant to seat, have not found them troublesome, although now that I think of it, my last couple of sets of D606s have gone on real easy.

[Harry Seifert]

That's for sure. 65F and clear at 4300' ASL, ten miles east down the mountain, it's in the low 80's and lot's of wide open desert that you can't ride on (State park) and then another 15 miles to a vast 100+ square miles of state ORV park and BLM land. Lots of sand, cactus, bikes and buggies. Better a mud bog than a cactus patch! If the desert isn't your bottle of brew, 60 miles west, the coast is in the low 70's and the beaches are full of spring-breakers. And if that doesn't do it, 30 miles due south is Baja. SoCal is in the midst of another drought, so there ain't no mud at all!!! Cap't. Bob, come on out. The weather is just fine out here. Buddy bseifert71@...

> [Original Message] > From: Jim > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 3/31/2007 11:18:52 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. > > AAAKKKK! I just checked the weather and we are supposed to get snow 6 > different days this week! (wintry mix Monday, and snow showers the > rest of the week.) I need to move. I hear San Diego is a nice place to > ride this time of year. > > Jim > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "usa1911a1" wrote: > > > > > > See Jim, I told ya. They don't ride like a man through snow and > > mud...damn orange Blossoms, and sweet fragrances. Next thing ya know > > they'll admit to eatin that there keeshy stuff. > > > > > > Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA > > > http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ > > > 2006 A6F KLR Green > > > Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers > > > Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New > England > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: C L Cooper > > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:59 PM > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. > > > > > > > > > ~150 mile ride last weekend thru hills east, north and big loop > > back home... > > > mid-sixties, sunny, orange trees and many other blossoms are very > > fragrant. > > > Absolutely beautiful. Not quite so far this weekend. Just a little > > cooler. > > > Maybe low sixties, sunny, again, beautiful. > > > > > > Mud.... don't know what you guys are talkin' about ;~) > > > > > > The new 685 engine is great!!! > > > > > > Chuck C > > > Gloating in Sunny San Diego > > > > > > On 3/31/07, Jim wrote: > > > > > > > > Ain't spring fun? Just the other day I was riding home from work, > > > > enjoying the feeling of the warm sun (I was still in a low speed > > limit > > > > area, so the 40 degree temp didn't get to me yet) and decided to > > take > > > > "the scenic way" and explore a side trail. Once off the road and > > under > > > > the trees the hard ground gave way to spots of mud. That gradually > > > > became deeper mud with large patches of snow and ice. Not > > exactly bike > > > > terrain, let alone KLR terrain! I was stubborn though and kept > going > > > > until the snow got deeper (as well as the mud in between!) I > finally > > > > made the decision to turn around before I had to call for a > > truck with > > > > a winch. > > > > > > > > Last nights ride home was later than expected, around 11:30 pm. > > All of > > > > the places that were wet earlier in the day from the spring > > runoff was > > > > now frozen into deadly ice patches. It definitely added to the > > > > excitement of riding. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , > > > > "usa1911a1" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have discovered a new way to stop, shut off and park the > bike. I > > > > was out in the woods yesterday...somewhere I should not have > > been...on > > > > a barely visible two track covered with last autumn's leaves. > I had > > > > been having a better time then any 61 year old should have with > > a 400 > > > > lb. bike in the woods, and was feeling pretty good about some > of the > > > > hills I climbed. Anyway, I was moving about 15 mph on this nearly > > > > invisible track and it turned left along the side of a hill > and then > > > > it dipped and went to the right up the hill. I was in the left > track > > > > making the uphill right when I went through the dip. > > > > > > > > > > All of a sudden "Praying Mantis" slowed to a stop, stalled and > > just > > > > stood there in the mud in this dip. The consistency of the mud was > > > > like thick oatmeal, and I was in it up to the chain. I > restarted but > > > > "forgetaboutit", just deeper in the mud. I dismounted and the bike > > > > just stood there, I couldn't have parked it nicer. By now I > was hot > > > > from horsing the bike back and forth but getting no where. I > pulled > > > > off my helmet, gloves, jacket and sunglasses, and just studied the > > > > situation while I rested. After a few minutes, I tried to lift the > > > > tail out of the muck...no go. I finally dug out from behind > the rear > > > > wheel and was able to horse the bike back about ten feet to > > where the > > > > mud hardened up a bit and the bike surfaced. Of course at this > point > > > > he bike tipped over and was belly laughing at me as it lay there. > > > > After a few minutes rest, I bench pressed the bike to 45 > degrees up > > > > and almost had a coronary getting it up all the way. I rode it > home > > > > and hosed at least ten pounds of mud from everywhere. You > would have > > > > been very proud of me. > > > > > > > > > > All that to say this: From experience, this bike "ain't no > > mudder". > > > > You guys out west must not be riding in deep mud in the woods. The > > > > KLR is a hard surface bike that requires an experienced able > bodied > > > > (read young) person to throw it around, and frankly I don't > believe > > > > most of what you guys claim. I think you are all a bunch of > > lying sobs. > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I feel better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA > > > > > http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ > > > > > 2006 A6F KLR Green > > > > > Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers > > > > > Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern > > New England > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[Harry Seifert]

No keeshy stuff here. We save that for the Harley ridin' wanna be's and their store bought choppers. They all seem to flock to the crap a chino's, too! The leftcoastklrsociety heartily endorses tacos de cabeza, uni sushi, tequila, quality Mexican beer (anything but Corona) and a good stiff belt of mezcal. Tacos de cabeza, burritos de lengue and a good, stiff slug of mezcal. The breakfast of the mighty leftcoastklristas. Buddy bseifert71@...

> [Original Message] > From: usa1911a1 > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; C L Cooper > Date: 3/31/2007 10:17:43 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. > > See Jim, I told ya. They don't ride like a man through snow and

mud...damn orange Blossoms, and sweet fragrances. Next thing ya know they'll admit to eatin that there keeshy stuff.

> > Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA > http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ > 2006 A6F KLR Green > Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers > Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New England > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: C L Cooper > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:59 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. > > > ~150 mile ride last weekend thru hills east, north and big loop back

home...

> mid-sixties, sunny, orange trees and many other blossoms are very

fragrant.

> Absolutely beautiful. Not quite so far this weekend. Just a little

cooler.

> Maybe low sixties, sunny, again, beautiful. > > Mud.... don't know what you guys are talkin' about ;~) > > The new 685 engine is great!!! > > Chuck C > Gloating in Sunny San Diego > > On 3/31/07, Jim wrote: > > > > Ain't spring fun? Just the other day I was riding home from work, > > enjoying the feeling of the warm sun (I was still in a low speed limit > > area, so the 40 degree temp didn't get to me yet) and decided to take > > "the scenic way" and explore a side trail. Once off the road and under > > the trees the hard ground gave way to spots of mud. That gradually > > became deeper mud with large patches of snow and ice. Not exactly bike > > terrain, let alone KLR terrain! I was stubborn though and kept going > > until the snow got deeper (as well as the mud in between!) I finally > > made the decision to turn around before I had to call for a truck with > > a winch. > > > > Last nights ride home was later than expected, around 11:30 pm. All of > > the places that were wet earlier in the day from the spring runoff was > > now frozen into deadly ice patches. It definitely added to the > > excitement of riding. > > > > Jim > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , > > "usa1911a1" wrote: > > > > > > I have discovered a new way to stop, shut off and park the bike. I > > was out in the woods yesterday...somewhere I should not have been...on > > a barely visible two track covered with last autumn's leaves. I had > > been having a better time then any 61 year old should have with a 400 > > lb. bike in the woods, and was feeling pretty good about some of the > > hills I climbed. Anyway, I was moving about 15 mph on this nearly > > invisible track and it turned left along the side of a hill and then > > it dipped and went to the right up the hill. I was in the left track > > making the uphill right when I went through the dip. > > > > > > All of a sudden "Praying Mantis" slowed to a stop, stalled and just > > stood there in the mud in this dip. The consistency of the mud was > > like thick oatmeal, and I was in it up to the chain. I restarted but > > "forgetaboutit", just deeper in the mud. I dismounted and the bike > > just stood there, I couldn't have parked it nicer. By now I was hot > > from horsing the bike back and forth but getting no where. I pulled > > off my helmet, gloves, jacket and sunglasses, and just studied the > > situation while I rested. After a few minutes, I tried to lift the > > tail out of the muck...no go. I finally dug out from behind the rear > > wheel and was able to horse the bike back about ten feet to where the > > mud hardened up a bit and the bike surfaced. Of course at this point > > he bike tipped over and was belly laughing at me as it lay there. > > After a few minutes rest, I bench pressed the bike to 45 degrees up > > and almost had a coronary getting it up all the way. I rode it home > > and hosed at least ten pounds of mud from everywhere. You would have > > been very proud of me. > > > > > > All that to say this: From experience, this bike "ain't no mudder". > > You guys out west must not be riding in deep mud in the woods. The > > KLR is a hard surface bike that requires an experienced able bodied > > (read young) person to throw it around, and frankly I don't believe > > most of what you guys claim. I think you are all a bunch of lying

sobs.

> > > > > > Ok, I feel better > > > > > > > > > Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA > > > http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ > > > 2006 A6F KLR Green > > > Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers > > > Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New

England

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[blocloc]

Jeez and here I am in Montana.......Kinda short on beaches and good mex food.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Seifert" To: "usa1911a1" ; DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; "C L Cooper" Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. > No keeshy stuff here. We save that for the Harley ridin' wanna be's and > their store bought choppers. They all seem to flock to the crap a > chino's, > too! The leftcoastklrsociety heartily endorses tacos de cabeza, uni > sushi, > tequila, quality Mexican beer (anything but Corona) and a good stiff belt > of mezcal. Tacos de cabeza, burritos de lengue and a good, stiff slug of > mezcal. The breakfast of the mighty leftcoastklristas. > > Buddy > bseifert71@... > > >> [Original Message] >> From: usa1911a1 >> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>; C L Cooper >> Date: 3/31/2007 10:17:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. >> >> See Jim, I told ya. They don't ride like a man through snow and > mud...damn orange Blossoms, and sweet fragrances. Next thing ya know > they'll admit to eatin that there keeshy stuff. >> >> Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA >> http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ >> 2006 A6F KLR Green >> Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers >> Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New England >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: C L Cooper >> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. >> >> >> ~150 mile ride last weekend thru hills east, north and big loop back > home... >> mid-sixties, sunny, orange trees and many other blossoms are very > fragrant. >> Absolutely beautiful. Not quite so far this weekend. Just a little > cooler. >> Maybe low sixties, sunny, again, beautiful. >> >> Mud.... don't know what you guys are talkin' about ;~) >> >> The new 685 engine is great!!! >> >> Chuck C >> Gloating in Sunny San Diego >> >> On 3/31/07, Jim wrote: >> > >> > Ain't spring fun? Just the other day I was riding home from work, >> > enjoying the feeling of the warm sun (I was still in a low speed >> limit >> > area, so the 40 degree temp didn't get to me yet) and decided to take >> > "the scenic way" and explore a side trail. Once off the road and >> under >> > the trees the hard ground gave way to spots of mud. That gradually >> > became deeper mud with large patches of snow and ice. Not exactly >> bike >> > terrain, let alone KLR terrain! I was stubborn though and kept going >> > until the snow got deeper (as well as the mud in between!) I finally >> > made the decision to turn around before I had to call for a truck >> with >> > a winch. >> > >> > Last nights ride home was later than expected, around 11:30 pm. All >> of >> > the places that were wet earlier in the day from the spring runoff >> was >> > now frozen into deadly ice patches. It definitely added to the >> > excitement of riding. >> > >> > Jim >> > >> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , >> > "usa1911a1" wrote: >> > > >> > > I have discovered a new way to stop, shut off and park the bike. I >> > was out in the woods yesterday...somewhere I should not have >> been...on >> > a barely visible two track covered with last autumn's leaves. I had >> > been having a better time then any 61 year old should have with a 400 >> > lb. bike in the woods, and was feeling pretty good about some of the >> > hills I climbed. Anyway, I was moving about 15 mph on this nearly >> > invisible track and it turned left along the side of a hill and then >> > it dipped and went to the right up the hill. I was in the left track >> > making the uphill right when I went through the dip. >> > > >> > > All of a sudden "Praying Mantis" slowed to a stop, stalled and just >> > stood there in the mud in this dip. The consistency of the mud was >> > like thick oatmeal, and I was in it up to the chain. I restarted but >> > "forgetaboutit", just deeper in the mud. I dismounted and the bike >> > just stood there, I couldn't have parked it nicer. By now I was hot >> > from horsing the bike back and forth but getting no where. I pulled >> > off my helmet, gloves, jacket and sunglasses, and just studied the >> > situation while I rested. After a few minutes, I tried to lift the >> > tail out of the muck...no go. I finally dug out from behind the rear >> > wheel and was able to horse the bike back about ten feet to where the >> > mud hardened up a bit and the bike surfaced. Of course at this point >> > he bike tipped over and was belly laughing at me as it lay there. >> > After a few minutes rest, I bench pressed the bike to 45 degrees up >> > and almost had a coronary getting it up all the way. I rode it home >> > and hosed at least ten pounds of mud from everywhere. You would have >> > been very proud of me. >> > > >> > > All that to say this: From experience, this bike "ain't no mudder". >> > You guys out west must not be riding in deep mud in the woods. The >> > KLR is a hard surface bike that requires an experienced able bodied >> > (read young) person to throw it around, and frankly I don't believe >> > most of what you guys claim. I think you are all a bunch of lying > sobs. >> > > >> > > Ok, I feel better >> > > >> > > >> > > Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA >> > > http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ >> > > 2006 A6F KLR Green >> > > Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers >> > > Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New > England >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Seifert" wrote:

> > No keeshy stuff here. We save that for the Harley ridin' wanna be's and > their store bought choppers. They all seem to flock to the crap a chino's, > too! The leftcoastklrsociety heartily endorses tacos de cabeza, uni sushi, > tequila, quality Mexican beer (anything but Corona) and a good stiff belt > of mezcal. Tacos de cabeza, burritos de lengue and a good, stiff slug of > mezcal. The breakfast of the mighty leftcoastklristas. > > Buddy > bseifert71@... >

Tacos de cabeza? You talking sesos or cheek meat?

[Harry Seifert]

Proper tacos de cabeza have little bits of all the meat from the cows head; just about everything, lips, cheeks, ears, snout, all but the hair and the ear wax.........altho sometimes I think they leave the earwax in for additional flavor. For those who are not big Mexican food fans, sesos is brain. Another tasty treat is tacos de tripas. And if you ask a Mexican for the Tabasco, he'll give you a strange look. Tabasco is Cajun. Mighty tasty, but it ain't Mexican. Cholula, La Anita or Tomatlan for good Mexican heat. Real Mexican heat is the habanero farmers that throw a couple of habaneros in the fire to burn the skin off and then wrap them in a fresh tortilla. Heard tell, it'll burn the skin right off the roof of a gringo's mouth. Ah yeah, it does!! It's Sunday........menudo time! Buddy, lips and all. bseifert71@...

> [Original Message] > From: Jud Jones > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 4/1/2007 4:57:45 PM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Mud ain't no friend of mine. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Seifert" wrote: > > > > No keeshy stuff here. We save that for the Harley ridin' wanna be's and > > their store bought choppers. They all seem to flock to the crap a

chino's,

> > too! The leftcoastklrsociety heartily endorses tacos de cabeza, uni

sushi,

> > tequila, quality Mexican beer (anything but Corona) and a good stiff

belt

> > of mezcal. Tacos de cabeza, burritos de lengue and a good, stiff slug

of

> > mezcal. The breakfast of the mighty leftcoastklristas. > > > > Buddy > > bseifert71@... > > > > Tacos de cabeza? You talking sesos or cheek meat? > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Harry Seifert" wrote:

> > Proper tacos de cabeza have little bits of all the meat from the

cows head;

> just about everything, lips, cheeks, ears, snout, all but the hair

and the

> ear wax.........altho sometimes I think they leave the earwax in for > additional flavor. For those who are not big Mexican food fans,

sesos is

> brain. Another tasty treat is tacos de tripas. And if you ask a

Mexican

> for the Tabasco, he'll give you a strange look. Tabasco is Cajun.

Mighty

> tasty, but it ain't Mexican. Cholula, La Anita or Tomatlan for good > Mexican heat. Real Mexican heat is the habanero farmers that throw

a couple

> of habaneros in the fire to burn the skin off and then wrap them in

a fresh

> tortilla. Heard tell, it'll burn the skin right off the roof of a

gringo's

> mouth. Ah yeah, it does!! > > It's Sunday........menudo time! > > Buddy, lips and all. > bseifert71@... >

Buddy, If I should show up somethime, Remind me to let you order, just don't tell me what it is. ah, Hold the habaneros/tortilla. revmaaatin.

[Douglas Bouley]

Didn't sound at all like a bash to me, Blake. Sounds like thoughtful advice indeed. I guess I need to decide what role off-road is likely to play for me this year. Fire trails and the like were part of the appeal of the KLR to me, I just haven't got around to anything more than commuting d/t health issues this past year. Doubt I'm likely to ever be an aggressive dirt rider, but who knows, given decent tires and feelin' better... Honestly, I kinda like the stock tires for street. I'm gonna get around 6k miles out of the rear and they have not been at all scary, even in fairly nasty winter weather. So, the TKC80 idea bears some serious thought. All the pondering is half the fun, eh? Many thanks, doug in dc Blake Sobiloff wrote:

> On Apr 1, 2007, at 5:20 AM, Douglas Bouley wrote: >> I'm a 99/1 street rider/all weather commuter, but would like to try a >> bit more dirty stuff this year. > > Doug, if you can have only one set of tires for everything, and you're > a 99/1 street/dirt rider, the closest I'd get to a knobby is a > TKC-80. Face it, you really need the good street grip far more than > you need a great off-road tire. A TKC-80 has a nice compound that > grips the street well, and the big blocks don't squirm around like a > real knobby, letting you get very close to normal lean angles on the > street. Even a real knobby isn't going to make up for your admitted > lack of off-road skill, so don't do something that'll severely > compromise your bike's grip 99 times out of 100. > > Please understand that I'm not bashin' ya', Doug! I went through the > same deliberations you're going through. I ended up deciding that it > was more important to be able to avoid the errant car or road debris > than it was to have the best possible off-road grip. Off-road, I'll > just take it a bit easier. I'm not trying to win any races off-road, > and I'll still get where I'm going. Heck, I might even have a chance > to enjoy the view a little longer. > > Best wishes, and safe riding! > -- > Blake Sobiloff > > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/blakeblog/> > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/klr_adventure/> > San Jose, CA (USA) > >

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