hd tirade

[Don S]

Maybe you didn't adorn yourself with ass-less chaps, finger-less gloves, $45.00 dew rag and sawed off beanie to get yourself into the HD karma zone. Notice even the flaky riding gear has something missing? The ride has nothing to do with it Larry! Just think how cool you looked on that noise and tinsel illusion of a motorcycle. OOOOOHHH YEAAAHHH. I can't think of one four wheeled machine that would bring together all of the undesirable traits that HD and associated makes possess. You can buy all kinds of four wheeled junk but you don't have to pay a premium for it. mauiklr650 wrote: Rented a road king so my friend and I could ride around Maui for a few days. What a piece of freaking garbage. First and last time I'll ever ride a harley. Are there 4 wheel vehicles that compare to HDs, poor handling, brakes, noise, vibration etc, and high price? Just curious. Larry

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > You got to wonder why anything associated with HD usually ends up being a product of fashion over function? I guess if there's enough shit-house peacocks out there willing to buy a machine for it's looks rather than it's performance, the junk will keep selling. Then again, if all they do is polish and shine their bikes, practical stuff doesn't matter..... > > Don > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > I test rode one a year ago, and had two MAJOR problems with it: > 1. EXTREMELY hot off rear cylinder (?) onto my inner thigh in crosswind; and > 2. EXTREMELY limited steering lock. I came close to dropping it on the turn-around at the > dealership as I'd had no warning. > BOTH would be deal breakers for me. > Ed > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ed Chait]

> I can't think of one four wheeled machine that would bring together all > of the undesirable traits that HD and associated makes possess. You can > buy all kinds of four wheeled junk but you don't have to pay a premium for > it. >

Clean and quiet belt drive, self-adjusting valves, 50 mpg, and no coolant system to service. lol, ed A17 04' HD

[Don Bittle]

Yugo. don

----- Original Message ----- From: mauiklr650 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Buell Ulysses? NKLR Rented a road king so my friend and I could ride around Maui for a few days. What a piece of freaking garbage. First and last time I'll ever ride a harley. Are there 4 wheel vehicles that compare to HDs, poor handling, brakes, noise, vibration etc, and high price? Just curious. Larry --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > You got to wonder why anything associated with HD usually ends up being a product of fashion over function? I guess if there's enough shit-house peacocks out there willing to buy a machine for it's looks rather than it's performance, the junk will keep selling. Then again, if all they do is polish and shine their bikes, practical stuff doesn't matter..... > > Don > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > I test rode one a year ago, and had two MAJOR problems with it: > 1. EXTREMELY hot off rear cylinder (?) onto my inner thigh in crosswind; and > 2. EXTREMELY limited steering lock. I came close to dropping it on the turn-around at the > dealership as I'd had no warning. > BOTH would be deal breakers for me. > Ed > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Don S]

That don't count. You could buy a brand new Yugo or Lada for the price of a Harley tune-up. Although, performance-wise you're certainly in the ball park. Don Bittle wrote: Yugo. don

----- Original Message ----- From: mauiklr650 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Buell Ulysses? NKLR Rented a road king so my friend and I could ride around Maui for a few days. What a piece of freaking garbage. First and last time I'll ever ride a harley. Are there 4 wheel vehicles that compare to HDs, poor handling, brakes, noise, vibration etc, and high price? Just curious. Larry --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > You got to wonder why anything associated with HD usually ends up being a product of fashion over function? I guess if there's enough shit-house peacocks out there willing to buy a machine for it's looks rather than it's performance, the junk will keep selling. Then again, if all they do is polish and shine their bikes, practical stuff doesn't matter..... > > Don > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > I test rode one a year ago, and had two MAJOR problems with it: > 1. EXTREMELY hot off rear cylinder (?) onto my inner thigh in crosswind; and > 2. EXTREMELY limited steering lock. I came close to dropping it on the turn-around at the > dealership as I'd had no warning. > BOTH would be deal breakers for me. > Ed > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

Last year on a ride over several days with some buddies (most on Harls), one swapped with me for an hour to try on my KLR, but before we traded, he asked what size my helmet (Shoei) was. I told him that I WOULDN'T ride his Harley with his crap helmet, so he could ride the KLR with it! BTW, a KLR WILL beat a Screaming Eagle ($50K Canadian) in a 5th gear roll-on!!! Ed

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > Maybe you didn't adorn yourself with ass-less chaps, finger-less gloves, $45.00 dew rag and sawed off beanie to get yourself into the HD karma zone. Notice even the flaky riding gear has something missing?

[Don S]

The words "decent performance" and "Harley" are seldom used in the same sentence. HD isn't about performance. It's all about tinsel, chrome and noise. And of course, separating suckers from large quantities of their money. Surprisingly, they keep coming and continue to empty their bank accounts to purchase these pinnacles of mediocrity. All for the illusion that they have transformed themselves into something they are not and will never be. Except maybe broke. I wonder if that's why HD riders carry the 14 inch long wallets bolted to their asses with a six foot dog chain. Just to remind themselves how much money they blew on their tinsel noise maker. Or, maybe the wallet's so big to carry all the money they will need to fix it and the chains come in handy for a tow home? fasteddiecopeman wrote: Last year on a ride over several days with some buddies (most on Harls), one swapped with me for an hour to try on my KLR, but before we traded, he asked what size my helmet (Shoei) was. I told him that I WOULDN'T ride his Harley with his crap helmet, so he could ride the KLR with it! BTW, a KLR WILL beat a Screaming Eagle ($50K Canadian) in a 5th gear roll-on!!! Ed

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > Maybe you didn't adorn yourself with ass-less chaps, finger-less gloves, $45.00 dew rag and sawed off beanie to get yourself into the HD karma zone. Notice even the flaky riding gear has something missing? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote:

> > The words "decent performance" and "Harley" are seldom used in the

same sentence. HD isn't about performance. It's all about tinsel, chrome and noise. And of course, separating suckers from large quantities of their money. Surprisingly, they keep coming and You might want to price the Harley Sportster. It is surprisingly affordable. It won't win any drag races with Japanese sportbikes, but it does a great job of keeping ahead of cars. The drive belt and hydraulic lifters means it's a very low-maintenance platform, and it gets 60+mpg. Of course, the "real" Harley guys look down on it, but I wouldn't mind having one. It's the KLR of cruisers, really. _E

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote:

> That don't count. You could buy a brand new Yugo or Lada for the

price of a Harley tune-up. ??? What in the world are you talking about?? A Harley is about the lowest-maintenance motorcycle in the world. Hydraulic lifters mean no valve adjustments. Belt means no chain maintenance. Carb synchronization? Nope, has a single throttle body and fuel injection. About all you have to do to a Harley to keep it running is change the oil every 3000 miles, the spark plugs and air filter every 15,000 miles, and change the belt every 90,000 miles. The unmodified Harley engine will run pretty much forever, unlike the KLR engine which tends to start getting a bit of piston slap past 60,000 miles. There's lots of things to fault Harleys on, but maintenance costs ain't one of them.

[stevedyer@cox.net]

Damn, Don! What sort of injustice did HD inflict on you to deserve your incessant vitriol? Did your mama's HD-riding boyfriend whip you with his studded belt or what? Maybe it would be better for us all if you chanted your HD-bashing to yourself in the mirror every morning. If you require constant affirmation or just need to hear the sound of your own voice, record your tirades on your Radio Shack cassette player and listen to them at your convenience, but -please- spare the rest of us. We heard you loud and clear the first time. Steve ---- Don S wrote: The words "decent performance" and "Harley" are seldom used in the same sentence. HD isn't about performance. It's all about tinsel, chrome and noise. And of course, separating suckers from large quantities of their money. Surprisingly, they keep coming and continue to empty their bank accounts to purchase these pinnacles of mediocrity. All for the illusion that they have transformed themselves into something they are not and will never be. Except maybe broke. I wonder if that's why HD riders carry the 14 inch long wallets bolted to their asses with a six foot dog chain. Just to remind themselves how much money they blew on their tinsel noise maker. Or, maybe the wallet's so big to carry all the money they will need to fix it and the chains come in handy for a tow home? fasteddiecopeman wrote: Last year on a ride over several days with some buddies (most on Harls), one swapped with me for an hour to try on my KLR, but before we traded, he asked what size my helmet (Shoei) was. I told him that I WOULDN'T ride his Harley with his crap helmet, so he could ride the KLR with it! BTW, a KLR WILL beat a Screaming Eagle ($50K Canadian) in a 5th gear roll-on!!! Ed

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > Maybe you didn't adorn yourself with ass-less chaps, finger-less gloves, $45.00 dew rag and sawed off beanie to get yourself into the HD karma zone. Notice even the flaky riding gear has something missing? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links

[Arden Kysely]

Ditto. It's time to move on and let folks ride what they want, wear what the want, and live like they want. __Arden

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > > Damn, Don! > > What sort of injustice did HD inflict on you to deserve your incessant vitriol? Did your mama's HD-riding boyfriend whip you with his studded belt or what? Maybe it would be better for us all if you chanted your HD-bashing to yourself in the mirror every morning. If you require constant affirmation or just need to hear the sound of your own voice, record your tirades on your Radio Shack cassette player and listen to them at your convenience, but -please- spare the rest of us. We heard you loud and clear the first time. > > Steve > > > ---- Don S wrote: > The words "decent performance" and "Harley" are seldom used in the same sentence. HD isn't about performance. It's all about tinsel, chrome and noise. And of course, separating suckers from large quantities of their money. Surprisingly, they keep coming and continue to empty their bank accounts to purchase these pinnacles of mediocrity. All for the illusion that they have transformed themselves into something they are not and will never be. Except maybe broke. I wonder if that's why HD riders carry the 14 inch long wallets bolted to their asses with a six foot dog chain. Just to remind themselves how much money they blew on their tinsel noise maker. Or, maybe the wallet's so big to carry all the money they will need to fix it and the chains come in handy for a tow home? > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > Last year on a ride over several days with some buddies (most on Harls), one swapped with > me for an hour to try on my KLR, but before we traded, he asked what size my helmet > (Shoei) was. I told him that I WOULDN'T ride his Harley with his crap helmet, so he could > ride the KLR with it! > BTW, a KLR WILL beat a Screaming Eagle ($50K Canadian) in a 5th gear roll-on!!! > Ed > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Don S wrote: > > > > Maybe you didn't adorn yourself with ass-less chaps, finger-less gloves, $45.00 dew rag > and sawed off beanie to get yourself into the HD karma zone. Notice even the flaky riding > gear has something missing? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links >