Why bypass Canada because you can't bring your pistol thru Customs? How
about shipping it to an FFL dealer in Alaska, then send it to your home FFL
dealer on return. I understand your concern, but IMHO all you'll do with MOST
handguns is p*ss Mr. Grizz off big time! As long as you keep a 'clean' camp
with your cooking stuff somewhere else you should be OK. I am regularly in
bear country alone (Alberta, near Calgary), and even during the times I have
a rifle with me (generally a .338) it's USUALLY not in my tent at night. I DO
carry a large canister of 'bear spray' in case I'm attacked and can get to it.
Be aware that MOST bear attacks are bluff charges that end with the bear
within 5 yards, so firing early can turn a scary situation into a life-threatening
one UNLESS you've got an .896 Triple neck Dragon Slayer Magnum,
preferably on full auto! On our Alaska trip last year, Joe and I camped deep in
BIG bear country for 17 out of 19 nights, without guns.
Good luck on your trip when you do go.
Ed
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fasteddiecopeman
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bear country?
I THINK you can bring it in, but you need an import permit. Also, don't forget
that you can't take a firearm INTO the US without a permit, so check that out
first!
Ed
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "clearprop5"
wrote:
> I wrote this thinking a shotgun was OK to take across the border. Is > this prohibited as well?
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matteeanne@yahoo.com
bear country?
I try always to "be prepared", for just about
anything. As I have never ridden to the Arctic circle
before, I envision me finding a great little
wilderness camp next to a stream. Just like the 2
Kayakers last week that made camp on a stream, right
in Mr. Grizzlies back yard. They were both killed. And
they had a gun, but "it was never fired".
I am sure many would consider me paranoid, but I
have found many more people who live on the interior
of Alaska, that, when I tell them I want to bring the
44Mag, they say "yep, that's a good idea.
To me it is the exact same thing as wearing armor
on my bike. I have never wrecked, I am a very cautious
and conservative rider, and will likely never use my
armor, but I really dont want to take that chance....
I think a shotgun would be way to cumbersome,
especially if you woken up by an attacking bear, I
hope to "s**t" when they find my body they can at
least say "The bastard emptied the clip".
--- fasteddiecopeman
wrote:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html> Why bypass Canada because you can't bring your > pistol thru Customs? How > about shipping it to an FFL dealer in Alaska, then > send it to your home FFL > dealer on return. I understand your concern, but > IMHO all you'll do with MOST > handguns is p*ss Mr. Grizz off big time! As long as > you keep a 'clean' camp > with your cooking stuff somewhere else you should be > OK. I am regularly in > bear country alone (Alberta, near Calgary), and even > during the times I have > a rifle with me (generally a .338) it's USUALLY not > in my tent at night. I DO > carry a large canister of 'bear spray' in case I'm > attacked and can get to it. > Be aware that MOST bear attacks are bluff charges > that end with the bear > within 5 yards, so firing early can turn a scary > situation into a life-threatening > one UNLESS you've got an .896 Triple neck Dragon > Slayer Magnum, > preferably on full auto! On our Alaska trip last > year, Joe and I camped deep in > BIG bear country for 17 out of 19 nights, without > guns. > Good luck on your trip when you do go. > Ed > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >
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WILLAM GILMORE
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bear country?
Hello - Sounds like you have a great trip planned. I'm no expert by any means but I once lived in the great state of Alaska and spent 3 months back-packing along the Good Hope River on the Seward Peninsula (north of Nome). During that time we had brown bear sightings on average of 2 or 3 per week, almost always different bears. We were never bothered the entire time. We followed these simple rules:
1. Store your food and food-smelling items at least 200 yards from where you sleep.
2. Always make noise when walking through the brush. When there was lots of fresh sign in the dwarf willows I sang the Marine Corps Hymn at the top of my lungs.
3. Never, ever run away from a bear.
4. If you see a sow and cubs back away slowly.
5. If you can, walk down wind so they can smell you coming.
6. Worry more about cow moose with a calf than bears. They'll stomp the shit out of you if you get too close to her young-un.
My preference would be no fire arm at all if all I had was a .44 pistol - unless you can practice on moving, tangerine-sized targets for a few weeks before you leave. I carried a smith and wesson short barrel slide shotgun with a sling - the first 3 being slug rounds and the last one out was 00 buckshot. Half the time we cursed even having to carry it but it was Park Service rules where we were.
Othe rules:
7. If you see a bear in the wild think of it as a blessing and enjoy it.
8. Finally, if you're killed and eaten by a bear, your family and friends will remember that part of you longer than anything. For the rest of their lives they'll be telling your story " Oh yah, you think that's something, well I had this buddy once who went way the hell up north and got his ass eaten by a bear". "All that was left was the gas tank of his KLR" etc., etc.
matteeanne@... wrote:
I try always to "be prepared", for just about
anything. As I have never ridden to the Arctic circle
before, I envision me finding a great little
wilderness camp next to a stream. Just like the 2
Kayakers last week that made camp on a stream, right
in Mr. Grizzlies back yard. They were both killed. And
they had a gun, but "it was never fired".
I am sure many would consider me paranoid, but I
have found many more people who live on the interior
of Alaska, that, when I tell them I want to bring the
44Mag, they say "yep, that's a good idea.
To me it is the exact same thing as wearing armor
on my bike. I have never wrecked, I am a very cautious
and conservative rider, and will likely never use my
armor, but I really dont want to take that chance....
I think a shotgun would be way to cumbersome,
especially if you woken up by an attacking bear, I
hope to "s**t" when they find my body they can at
least say "The bastard emptied the clip".
--- fasteddiecopeman
wrote:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html> Why bypass Canada because you can't bring your > pistol thru Customs? How > about shipping it to an FFL dealer in Alaska, then > send it to your home FFL > dealer on return. I understand your concern, but > IMHO all you'll do with MOST > handguns is p*ss Mr. Grizz off big time! As long as > you keep a 'clean' camp > with your cooking stuff somewhere else you should be > OK. I am regularly in > bear country alone (Alberta, near Calgary), and even > during the times I have > a rifle with me (generally a .338) it's USUALLY not > in my tent at night. I DO > carry a large canister of 'bear spray' in case I'm > attacked and can get to it. > Be aware that MOST bear attacks are bluff charges > that end with the bear > within 5 yards, so firing early can turn a scary > situation into a life-threatening > one UNLESS you've got an .896 Triple neck Dragon > Slayer Magnum, > preferably on full auto! On our Alaska trip last > year, Joe and I camped deep in > BIG bear country for 17 out of 19 nights, without > guns. > Good luck on your trip when you do go. > Ed > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >
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WILLAM GILMORE
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bear country?
One more thing - if you're with a woman and she's on her moon, make her sleep by herself in the food tent. Only kidding. I know there's some special precautions that are recommended but I forgot what they are.
WILLAM GILMORE wrote:Hello - Sounds like you have a great trip planned. I'm no expert by any means but I once lived in the great state of Alaska and spent 3 months back-packing along the Good Hope River on the Seward Peninsula (north of Nome). During that time we had brown bear sightings on average of 2 or 3 per week, almost always different bears. We were never bothered the entire time. We followed these simple rules:
1. Store your food and food-smelling items at least 200 yards from where you sleep.
2. Always make noise when walking through the brush. When there was lots of fresh sign in the dwarf willows I sang the Marine Corps Hymn at the top of my lungs.
3. Never, ever run away from a bear.
4. If you see a sow and cubs back away slowly.
5. If you can, walk down wind so they can smell you coming.
6. Worry more about cow moose with a calf than bears. They'll stomp the shit out of you if you get too close to her young-un.
My preference would be no fire arm at all if all I had was a .44 pistol - unless you can practice on moving, tangerine-sized targets for a few weeks before you leave. I carried a smith and wesson short barrel slide shotgun with a sling - the first 3 being slug rounds and the last one out was 00 buckshot. Half the time we cursed even having to carry it but it was Park Service rules where we were.
Othe rules:
7. If you see a bear in the wild think of it as a blessing and enjoy it.
8. Finally, if you're killed and eaten by a bear, your family and friends will remember that part of you longer than anything. For the rest of their lives they'll be telling your story " Oh yah, you think that's something, well I had this buddy once who went way the hell up north and got his ass eaten by a bear". "All that was left was the gas tank of his KLR" etc., etc.
matteeanne@... wrote:
I try always to "be prepared", for just about
anything. As I have never ridden to the Arctic circle
before, I envision me finding a great little
wilderness camp next to a stream. Just like the 2
Kayakers last week that made camp on a stream, right
in Mr. Grizzlies back yard. They were both killed. And
they had a gun, but "it was never fired".
I am sure many would consider me paranoid, but I
have found many more people who live on the interior
of Alaska, that, when I tell them I want to bring the
44Mag, they say "yep, that's a good idea.
To me it is the exact same thing as wearing armor
on my bike. I have never wrecked, I am a very cautious
and conservative rider, and will likely never use my
armor, but I really dont want to take that chance....
I think a shotgun would be way to cumbersome,
especially if you woken up by an attacking bear, I
hope to "s**t" when they find my body they can at
least say "The bastard emptied the clip".
--- fasteddiecopeman
wrote:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html> Why bypass Canada because you can't bring your > pistol thru Customs? How > about shipping it to an FFL dealer in Alaska, then > send it to your home FFL > dealer on return. I understand your concern, but > IMHO all you'll do with MOST > handguns is p*ss Mr. Grizz off big time! As long as > you keep a 'clean' camp > with your cooking stuff somewhere else you should be > OK. I am regularly in > bear country alone (Alberta, near Calgary), and even > during the times I have > a rifle with me (generally a .338) it's USUALLY not > in my tent at night. I DO > carry a large canister of 'bear spray' in case I'm > attacked and can get to it. > Be aware that MOST bear attacks are bluff charges > that end with the bear > within 5 yards, so firing early can turn a scary > situation into a life-threatening > one UNLESS you've got an .896 Triple neck Dragon > Slayer Magnum, > preferably on full auto! On our Alaska trip last > year, Joe and I camped deep in > BIG bear country for 17 out of 19 nights, without > guns. > Good luck on your trip when you do go. > Ed > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >
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kelpo2001
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bear country?
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "fasteddiecopeman"
wrote:
don't forget> I THINK you can bring it in, but you need an import permit. Also,
check that out> that you can't take a firearm INTO the US without a permit, so
You will have a hard time getting a handgun into Canada legally. You need an invitation from a certified gun club to a sanctioned competition and you will need to register the handgun in Canada. If you succeed with this, you will not get any kind of permit allowing you to carry it on your bike trip. The permit to transport will only allow you to transport the handgun from your residence to the gun club by the most direct route...the gun must be unloaded, in a locked case, in the locked trunk with the ammunition in a separate container. Long guns have different and easier regulations. Yes, Canada does have strict gun laws by comparison to the US, but you don't need to worry that 50% of the vehicles on the road might have a handgun in them. For bear protection, your best bet is probably "bear bangers" and keeping a clean campsite. Richard Korpela A15 Chapleau, ON> first! > Ed
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Bruno Valeri
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bear country?
matteeanne@... asked:
him?>What would happen if you sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered
Tazer or Spray, but if it would in> I dont relish the thought of letting a Bear get close enough to either
IF you hit the bear in the face, you would buy some time. It means you have to be expecting an assault. The brown and black bears are not physically intimidating. If you come across a Grizzly, you may be so moved by his presence that you'll have trouble aiming. If you're carrying a handgun (better not be a pea shooter), you might get one shot at the bear. Chances are, the handgun will only wound it, so not enough to save you, even though it may later die. Best advice is probably just normal safe procedures, already mentioned here. Also, strong pepper spray might be more useful as you can spray wildly in the general vicinity of the bear's face as opposed to aiming and firing bullets. Things happen too fast. note: If you do use pepper spray, don't find yourself on the downwind side of the bear. You'll only end up spraying yourself. =:O Bruno Montreal, Canada Cooling vest review http://pages.videotron.com/mcrides/product_evals/joe_rocket/sahara.htm> fact stop the Bear? Any thoughts/experiences?
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fasteddiecopeman
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- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:05 pm
bear country?
I believe that MOST of the women that have been hauled out of sleeping bags
and mauled/killed here in Alberta have been on their period, and I believe
that Parks Canada warns menstruating women NOT to sleep in a tent.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, WILLAM GILMORE wrote:
sleep by herself in the food tent. Only kidding. I know there's some special precautions that are recommended but I forgot what they are.> One more thing - if you're with a woman and she's on her moon, make her
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West Hovland
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bear country?
Actually Pepper Spray is illegal to bring into Canada as well... I had mine taken away from me in Nighthawk a few years ago.
West
----- Original Message ----- From: matteeanne@... To: WEST HOVLAND ; DSN_klr650DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Bear Country? I am still planning my Arctic trip in 07'. I have felt I need to bypass Canada, as they will not allow me to pass through with my hand gun, and I really cannot imagine camping in Alaska without a big gun. The ferry ride to bypass Canada is hella expensive, and I started wondering, What would happen if you sprayed a bear down with Pepper Spray and tazered him? I dont relish the thought of letting a Bear get close enough to either Tazer or Spray, but if it would in fact stop the Bear? Any thoughts/experiences? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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David Critcley
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bear country?
Folks,
I routinely carry bear spray when doing outdoor photography. It may be that the Border Morons stopped it coming across, but it can be bought here.
----- Original Message ----- From: WEST HOVLAND Date: Friday, July 15, 2005 7:21 pm Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Bear Country? > Actually Pepper Spray is illegal to bring into Canada as well... I > >
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