nklr detroit free press article

[Bogdan Swider]

> > I HIGHLY recommend a 100ppm bleach rinse with these bottles. I know way too > many folks that have gotten bladder infections from drinking out of skanked > Camelbacks. > > --John Kokola

Up in Northern Ontario if the Spring runoff gets into your well they recommend bleach to kill the bacteria. If the plastic can take it I use boiling water to clean water bottles. Wonder if my Camel back bag would melt? Or not ? Only one way to find out. Bogdan, who has found that a bucket of boiling water can also open up a plugged sewer line.

[BLBacon]

Not suggesting. Just asking: Does BAKING SODA Help? Brent Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:59:36 -0800 From: anti-js Subject: Re: NKLR- Camel Back Plastic Taste on 3/22/05 9:18 AM, Bill Emmack at blemmack@... wrote:

> > I would recommend NOT using bleach -- unless you prefer the taste of > bleach to the taste of plastic. I've found the bleach taste is even > harder to get rid of once it's in there.

My 1st choice for hydration sacks or watter bottles has always been vinegar or baking soda, but when that doesn't prove effective, the bleach usually does the trick. I've used it on water bottles since I started riding/racin bikes (pedal) back in 69 and have never had any issues with it. Prolly have run bottles and bags well over a hunnert times through this treatment. And other than bad spellin and a slight twitch in the face, notice no ill affects from da process...

> The lemon juice and baking > soda should do the trick, but if not, I've also used a tiny bit of Dr. > Bronner's peppermint soap for washing out an older bag that got a > little funky. After rinsing very, very well to be sure I was rid of > all the soap, I still had a nice bit of minty flavor... =) > > BE > SF, A9

Lemon juice, vinegar, bleach - you're jus tawkin about varyin concentrations of an acid or - bakin soda - AL Kalines. Iff'n you can really smell the chlorine/bleach in the sak, then you've prolly gone a little overboard on the concentration. Key word is 'neutralize', as in the chemistry sense - not the military one. Js

[BLBacon]

Guess not! I just read the other posts. duh, Brent

----- Original Message ----- From: "BLBacon" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: Re: NKLR- Camel Back Plastic Taste > Not suggesting. Just asking: Does BAKING SODA Help? > Brent

[Norberto F. Reyes, III]

Message: 6 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:36:53 -0700 From: Bogdan Swider Subject: Re: NKLR- Camel Back Plastic Taste

> > I HIGHLY recommend a 100ppm bleach rinse with these bottles. I know

way too

> many folks that have gotten bladder infections from drinking out of

skanked

> Camelbacks. > > --John Kokola

Sheesh! Why all these posts about the taste of camel toe? If you don't like the taste of camel toe, just say no!

[ktamcm@aol.com]

I called camelback on my Mil-Spec that had the same problem. they overnight'ed me a new one. Kurt Thomas Va Beach, VA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[John Biccum]

I think this piece is cleverly written and funny. It is certainly not something for any motorcyclist to get upset about. I thought that the line "...spend your last tourist dollars..." is an excellent pun. I also think that the line "10,000, an amount that should more than cover the lifetime medical care most serious closed-head injury victims require -- as long as they don't live through the first night." is another funny line and a brilliant attack on the legislators that repealed the helmet law while mandating that riders carry medical coverage with a palty limit of 10 grand. The lines "If only lawmakers had thought to add a requirement that all helmet-less cyclists agree to donate their organs..." is nothing more than another stab at the Michigan legislators. He is bashing the Michigan legislature for repealing the helmet law and he is bashing the federal government for interfering with a terminal patients (purported) right to die. He is not bashing motorcyclists.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Jomarron" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:13 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Detroit Free Press article > > Here's the article from the website: > > BRIAN DICKERSON: No brain our gain, Senate tells bikers > > March 21, 2005 > > > > > > > BY BRIAN DICKERSON > FREE PRESS COLUMNIST > > > > These are dark times for champions of the right to die. > > > Jack Kevorkian is behind bars. Oregon's experiment with > physician-assisted suicide is under siege by religious zealots in the > U.S. Justice Department. And Congress is groping frantically for ways > to interpose itself between brain-damaged Terri Schiavo and the husband > Florida courts recognize as her legal surrogate. > > > But fear not, libertarians: The right to die is alive and well in > Michigan! > > > All you need is a motorcycle license and, if you live elsewhere, a > willingness to spend your last tourist dollars in the Great Lakes > State. > > > In an extraordinary display of bipartisan nincompoopery, the state > Senate struck a blow last week for those who yearn to dash their brains > out on Michigan highways. > > > Eleven Republicans joined 10 Democrats in voting to repeal a state law > requiring motorcyclists to wear helmets, a change the Senate's only > physician, Kalamazoo Republican Tom George, said would double the > number of annual motorcycle fatalities in Michigan. > > > > Ride free and die > Not that those who supported the bill are cravenly kowtowing to bikers. > In an amendment that explicitly recognizes the increased liability > foisted on Michigan hospitals, the Senate also voted to require that > every biker carry medical insurance. > > > George and Sen. Bev Hammerstrom, R-Temperance, who opposed the repeal, > had suggested that each cyclist be required to carry $350,000 in > medical coverage. The Senate majority settled on $10,000, an amount > that should more than cover the lifetime medical care most serious > closed-head injury victims require -- as long as they don't live > through the first night. > > > But if the helmet law repeal seems likely to burden trauma centers and > the taxpayers who subsidize them, it's also a boon to Michiganders > awaiting vital organ transplants. In emergency rooms, where seriously > injured riders are privately known as donorcyclists, the no-helmet > crowd is prized as a rich source of youthful hearts, livers and > kidneys, among other organs that remain well preserved long after brain > death. > > > If only lawmakers had thought to add a requirement that all helmet-less > cyclists agree to donate their organs. And why not require > donorcyclists to sign papers declining extraordinary lifesaving > measures, so that that deserving organ recipients aren't kept waiting > unnecessarily? > > > > A piece of the action > Not everyone will buy the suggestion that repealing the helmet law > advances the right-to-die agenda. Many lawmakers who can't abide the > government coming between a man and his motorcycle wouldn't hesitate to > get between Terri Schiavo and her physicians, if only the courts would > let them. > > > Allowing healthy people to dash their brains out on the open road is > one thing; after all. Letting a brain-damaged woman die in privacy is > quite another. > > > For one thing, donorcyclists generate a lot more bar and restaurant > revenue. According to those who want to repeal the helmet law, Michigan > forfeits many of those dollars to states that don't mandate helmets. If > our state wants its fair share of the biker market, they argue, it > should worry less about the donorcyclists' skulls and more about their > wallets. > > > Of course, some of Kevorkian's champions used to argue that authorizing > physician-assisted suicide would make Michigan a magnet for other > states' terminally ill. There'd be jobs and tax revenues galore, an > assisted-suicide clinic in every town big enough to have its own post > office. > > > The thing is, I always figured they were kidding. > > > > Alex Jomarron > West Dundee, Illinois > USA > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >