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[John Biccum]

I found them very noisy on the road when going in a straight line. As soon as I put a tiny bit lean on the tires quieted down.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Morris" To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:21 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tires > > > OK, what's the word on the d606 on pavement? I like the way they look. > I am not a very aggressive on road rider. I do like to spend my > weekends on the local mountain roads (dirt). The rest of my riding is > on the hyways. > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[dumbazz_650]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Morris" wrote:

> > OK, what's the word on the d606 on pavement? I like the way they

look.

> I am not a very aggressive on road rider. I do like to spend my > weekends on the local mountain roads (dirt). The rest of my riding

is

> on the hyways.

They work fine, somewhat better than the K270 on-road, and about 10-15% more traction off-road. The D606 didn't last as long as the K270 for my hammer-down riding style, D606 went 2,800 and the K270 about 4,200. The K270 is about $70 /set at Chaparral, and the D606 about $140. Very good tire, just didn't last long for me. For a competitive event I'd choose the D606, but for every day tomfoolery, the Kenda is cheaper and quite serviceable. A bit spooky until scrubbed in, and even then tends to walk across corners when pressed hard. MarkB

[Randall Marbach]

I like mine OK on pavement except for the whine. Once I get my Barbie set up for commuting back/forth to work, I will keep the the D606s full time on my Ken expedition bike and find a more street oriented tire for the Barbie. HTH Randy from Burbank A17 Ken A9 Barbie --- Howard Morris wrote:

> > > OK, what's the word on the d606 on pavement? I like > the way they look. > I am not a very aggressive on road rider. I do like > to spend my > weekends on the local mountain roads (dirt). The > rest of my riding is > on the hyways. > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[piggiwack]

I know this post has been around the block a kazillion times, but I would like to ask opinions on new tires for mostly street with some gravel/mud use with longer road trips as well. I'm still running the stock Dunlops, but my rear tire is almost toast and do people usually change the front at the same time when going to a different brand? Thanks, Rob

[Eric L. Green]

On Wed, 4 May 2005, piggiwack wrote:

> I know this post has been around the block a kazillion times, but I > would like to ask opinions on new tires for mostly street with some > gravel/mud use with longer road trips as well.

Gosh, you're not asking for much, just the Universal Solvent of tires! The main issue you're going to run into is mud use. Very few tires that are good on the street are also good in the mud, and the ones that do generally don't last very long (because they must use a soft compound in order to compensate for less rubber on the road due to the wide knob spacing)... I'll let others tune you in on their favorite tire. I'll just warn you that whatever tire you get, it's going to be a compromise. You'll give up some tire life to get mud ability, or give up some street ability to get tire life, or something. Mud is not the KLR's natural terrain (let's face it, a nearly-400-pound steed typically sinks right to the bottom of any mud bog that comes along) so you're asking a lot.. _E

[Thor Lancelot Simon]

On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:11:34PM -0700, Eric L. Green wrote:

> On Wed, 4 May 2005, piggiwack wrote: > > I know this post has been around the block a kazillion times, but I > > would like to ask opinions on new tires for mostly street with some > > gravel/mud use with longer road trips as well. > > Gosh, you're not asking for much, just the Universal Solvent of tires! > > The main issue you're going to run into is mud use. Very few tires that > are good on the street are also good in the mud, and the ones that do > generally don't last very long (because they must use a soft compound in > order to compensate for less rubber on the road due to the wide knob > spacing)...

I can at least say that the Kenda 761 (which seems to use a tread pattern similar to some Trailwings, which I don't often see recommended here but which are OEM on some other 650cc dualies) has wide enough gaps between the large tread blocks that it is _possible_, though not _pleasant_, to tractor it out of deep mud. That is not true for some other street oriented tires I have used like the Distanzia and the Gripster. Thor

[piggiwack]

Thank you, but mud is the least of my worries because I will mostly be riding on the street with some gravel. I am looking for a tire what will last longer than the stock Dunlop, be good on the street and decent in gravel.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:11:34PM -0700, Eric L. Green wrote: > > On Wed, 4 May 2005, piggiwack wrote: > > > I know this post has been around the block a kazillion times, but I > > > would like to ask opinions on new tires for mostly street with some > > > gravel/mud use with longer road trips as well. > > > > Gosh, you're not asking for much, just the Universal Solvent of tires! > > > > The main issue you're going to run into is mud use. Very few tires that > > are good on the street are also good in the mud, and the ones that do > > generally don't last very long (because they must use a soft compound in > > order to compensate for less rubber on the road due to the wide knob > > spacing)... > > I can at least say that the Kenda 761 (which seems to use a tread pattern > similar to some Trailwings, which I don't often see recommended here but > which are OEM on some other 650cc dualies) has wide enough gaps between > the large tread blocks that it is _possible_, though not _pleasant_, to > tractor it out of deep mud. > > That is not true for some other street oriented tires I have used like > the Distanzia and the Gripster. > > Thor

[Eric L. Green]

On Wed, 4 May 2005, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:

> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:11:34PM -0700, Eric L. Green wrote: >> On Wed, 4 May 2005, piggiwack wrote: >>> I know this post has been around the block a kazillion times, but I >>> would like to ask opinions on new tires for mostly street with some >>> gravel/mud use with longer road trips as well. >> >> Gosh, you're not asking for much, just the Universal Solvent of tires! >> >> The main issue you're going to run into is mud use. Very few tires that >> are good on the street are also good in the mud, and the ones that do >> generally don't last very long (because they must use a soft compound in >> order to compensate for less rubber on the road due to the wide knob >> spacing)... > > I can at least say that the Kenda 761 (which seems to use a tread pattern > similar to some Trailwings, which I don't often see recommended here but > which are OEM on some other 650cc dualies) has wide enough gaps between > the large tread blocks that it is _possible_, though not _pleasant_, to > tractor it out of deep mud.

Hmm, I have 761's on my KLR, and can attest that they do well on the highway and on gravel, but I would have never thought they'd handle mud. Granted, I walloped them through a few bogholes during the rainy season here, but I had a head of steam up and you can get through any boghole as long as you have enough steam going to make it to the other side before you need, like, traction. But what the heck, I used a 1981 Chevy Chevette as a beach car, wind her up and let her fly and as long as you kept her moving forward you were fine (well, until I slid down into some ruts that had been dug on the beach by some moron with a 4x4 with monster tires and ended up with all four wheels in the air with the car on its belly pan on the sand, luckily said moron also had a chain handy to pull me out of his ruts , so I'm quite aware how momentum can substitute for, like, traction (heh!). _E

[scott quillen]

I just had them mounted last week, but from the looks of the Metzeler Tourance, it should be a good "all-around" tire...believe it's rated 90-10 (street/dirt). I'm sure someone in the group has used them awhile and can give an actual report of their performance (which I'd like to hear myself). Scott --- piggiwack wrote:

> Thank you, but mud is the least of my worries > because I will mostly be > riding on the street with some gravel. I am looking > for a tire what > will last longer than the stock Dunlop, be good on > the street and > decent in gravel. > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Thor Lancelot > Simon wrote: > > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:11:34PM -0700, Eric L. > Green wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 May 2005, piggiwack wrote: > > > > I know this post has been around the block a > kazillion times, but I > > > > would like to ask opinions on new tires for > mostly street with some > > > > gravel/mud use with longer road trips as well. > > > > > > Gosh, you're not asking for much, just the > Universal Solvent of tires! > > > > > > The main issue you're going to run into is mud > use. Very few tires > that > > > are good on the street are also good in the mud, > and the ones that do > > > generally don't last very long (because they > must use a soft > compound in > > > order to compensate for less rubber on the road > due to the wide knob > > > spacing)... > > > > I can at least say that the Kenda 761 (which seems > to use a tread > pattern > > similar to some Trailwings, which I don't often > see recommended here but > > which are OEM on some other 650cc dualies) has > wide enough gaps between > > the large tread blocks that it is _possible_, > though not _pleasant_, to > > tractor it out of deep mud. > > > > That is not true for some other street oriented > tires I have used like > > the Distanzia and the Gripster. > > > > Thor > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Michael Silverstein]

This might be helpful: [www.mindspring.com/~mssilverstein/motor ... r650/tires]. Mike A18

> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of piggiwack > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:05 PM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Tires > > > I know this post has been around the block a kazillion times, > but I would like to ask opinions on new tires for mostly > street with some gravel/mud use with longer road trips as > well. I'm still running the stock Dunlops, but my rear tire > is almost toast and do people usually change the front at the > same time when going to a different brand?

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