nklr new platform lift

[jwflower53]

Thanks, Doug, for the detail.

-JW

[jwflower53]

Thanks Don.

-JW

[jwflower53]

Robert, good idea.  I had a DellOrto (sp) pumper on my SR500 and it was a big improvement over stock.

-JW

[david zawadzki]

I'm about to pick up a 97 dr350 on Thursday.  I ll let you know how it it.  My friend had a drz400 and complained that when you hit 70 the engine squeaks.  (Not that we should be going that fast on bikes but anyway) Pre 94dr350s are non electric start (I think) -David Zmobile: 646.267.1109www.thelegendofzarko.com

On Aug 23, 2015, at 3:14 PM, jwflower53@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Robert, good idea.  I had a DellOrto (sp) pumper on my SR500 and it was a big improvement over stock.-JW

[SniperOne308]

Interesting JW. As several have said, either will work for most of the riding you plan to do.   One thing I would add is that neither is ideal for work in the deep sand dunes that are better handled by a lighter and more powerful bike with true off road suspension and tires. The 400 probably has a broader list of upgrades and farkles available as it is still in production.  It does have the last revision of right side up forks that were on the RM dirt bike before Suzuki went inverted on that bike.  A pumper carb can be had for either bike as well as big bore kits and exhaust work. If you plan to add things like racks, skid plates, panniers and racks, you might check availability for each and include those costs in your decision.  Most of my bikes I have put as much into upgrades and making them fit me as I have in the bike itself. You indicated it may come down to money for you.  You might consider how either bike will hold its value if you get one and decide you want to sell it in a year.  It would be a shame to loose money on the bike and all your upgrades.  IMO, the DRZ is at the upper end of the pricing range.  It may be an extra nice bike, or just hard to come by in your area.  I bought my 2006 for 3k and it had a 435 big bore plus full FMF exhaust with 2500 miles on the clock. For sure let us all know which direction you go. Randy Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "jwflower53@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: 08/23/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-07:00) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR DR350 v DRZ400?   Randy, you're making me think (that's a good thing).  No more than 50 miles from home, no more than 2 nights out (one up, camping), mostly temperate weather (far north Cali coast) but sometimes in the 90s when we go inland.  Ten to 30 miles on the slab to get to the vast skein of dirt roads that crisscross the county.  Within ten miles of me are a practice area of paths through the sand dunes, and a small public quasi-motocross track (haven't seen it yet, have this from a riding buddy).       Budget may control the decision in the end.  The local DRZ that's for sale is $3500 obo, the local DR350 is $2000 obo.  In our relatively isolated location, the pickings are slim unless one wants to travel 4+ hours.Thanks for making me think.-JW

[david zawadzki]

Gents, For a well maintained 97 dr350 (new clutch, no leaks) is 18k miles considered a lot? How many miles can the bikes get pushed to? -David Zmobile: 646.267.1109www.thelegendofzarko.com

On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:01 PM, SniperOne308 sniperone308@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Interesting JW. As several have said, either will work for most of the riding you plan to do.   One thing I would add is that neither is ideal for work in the deep sand dunes that are better handled by a lighter and more powerful bike with true off road suspension and tires. The 400 probably has a broader list of upgrades and farkles available as it is still in production.  It does have the last revision of right side up forks that were on the RM dirt bike before Suzuki went inverted on that bike.  A pumper carb can be had for either bike as well as big bore kits and exhaust work. If you plan to add things like racks, skid plates, panniers and racks, you might check availability for each and include those costs in your decision.  Most of my bikes I have put as much into upgrades and making them fit me as I have in the bike itself. You indicated it may come down to money for you.  You might consider how either bike will hold its value if you get one and decide you want to sell it in a year.  It would be a shame to loose money on the bike and all your upgrades.  IMO, the DRZ is at the upper end of the pricing range.  It may be an extra nice bike, or just hard to come by in your area.  I bought my 2006 for 3k and it had a 435 big bore plus full FMF exhaust with 2500 miles on the clock. For sure let us all know which direction you go. Randy Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "jwflower53@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: 08/23/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-07:00) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR DR350 v DRZ400?   Randy, you're making me think (that's a good thing).  No more than 50 miles from home, no more than 2 nights out (one up, camping), mostly temperate weather (far north Cali coast) but sometimes in the 90s when we go inland.  Ten to 30 miles on the slab to get to the vast skein of dirt roads that crisscross the county.  Within ten miles of me are a practice area of paths through the sand dunes, and a small public quasi-motocross track (haven't seen it yet, have this from a riding buddy).       Budget may control the decision in the end.  The local DRZ that's for sale is $3500 obo, the local DR350 is $2000 obo.  In our relatively isolated location, the pickings are slim unless one wants to travel 4+ hours.Thanks for making me think.-JW

[robertwaters]

I do not think 18k is a lot.  That is what mine has and it is strong. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S 5 ACTIVE , an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "David Zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: 08/23/2015 6:35 PM (GMT-06:00) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, SniperOne308 Cc: jwflower53@... Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR DR350 v DRZ400?   Gents, For a well maintained 97 dr350 (new clutch, no leaks) is 18k miles considered a lot? How many miles can the bikes get pushed to? -David Zmobile: 646.267.1109www.thelegendofzarko.com

On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:01 PM, SniperOne308 sniperone308@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Interesting JW. As several have said, either will work for most of the riding you plan to do.   One thing I would add is that neither is ideal for work in the deep sand dunes that are better handled by a lighter and more powerful bike with true off road suspension and tires. The 400 probably has a broader list of upgrades and farkles available as it is still in production.  It does have the last revision of right side up forks that were on the RM dirt bike before Suzuki went inverted on that bike.  A pumper carb can be had for either bike as well as big bore kits and exhaust work. If you plan to add things like racks, skid plates, panniers and racks, you might check availability for each and include those costs in your decision.  Most of my bikes I have put as much into upgrades and making them fit me as I have in the bike itself. You indicated it may come down to money for you.  You might consider how either bike will hold its value if you get one and decide you want to sell it in a year.  It would be a shame to loose money on the bike and all your upgrades.  IMO, the DRZ is at the upper end of the pricing range.  It may be an extra nice bike, or just hard to come by in your area.  I bought my 2006 for 3k and it had a 435 big bore plus full FMF exhaust with 2500 miles on the clock. For sure let us all know which direction you go. Randy Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "jwflower53@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: 08/23/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-07:00) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR DR350 v DRZ400?   Randy, you're making me think (that's a good thing).  No more than 50 miles from home, no more than 2 nights out (one up, camping), mostly temperate weather (far north Cali coast) but sometimes in the 90s when we go inland.  Ten to 30 miles on the slab to get to the vast skein of dirt roads that crisscross the county.  Within ten miles of me are a practice area of paths through the sand dunes, and a small public quasi-motocross track (haven't seen it yet, have this from a riding buddy).       Budget may control the decision in the end.  The local DRZ that's for sale is $3500 obo, the local DR350 is $2000 obo.  In our relatively isolated location, the pickings are slim unless one wants to travel 4+ hours.Thanks for making me think.-JW

[SniperOne308]

Hum, why did it need a new clutch after 18k?Randy Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "robertwaters robertwaters@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: 08/23/2015 6:38 PM (GMT-07:00) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, David Zawadzki Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR DR350 v DRZ400?   I do not think 18k is a lot.  That is what mine has and it is strong. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S 5 ACTIVE , an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "David Zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: 08/23/2015 6:35 PM (GMT-06:00) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, SniperOne308 Cc: jwflower53@... Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR DR350 v DRZ400?   Gents, For a well maintained 97 dr350 (new clutch, no leaks) is 18k miles considered a lot? How many miles can the bikes get pushed to? -David Zmobile: 646.267.1109www.thelegendofzarko.com

On Aug 23, 2015, at 7:01 PM, SniperOne308 sniperone308@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Interesting JW. As several have said, either will work for most of the riding you plan to do.   One thing I would add is that neither is ideal for work in the deep sand dunes that are better handled by a lighter and more powerful bike with true off road suspension and tires. The 400 probably has a broader list of upgrades and farkles available as it is still in production.  It does have the last revision of right side up forks that were on the RM dirt bike before Suzuki went inverted on that bike.  A pumper carb can be had for either bike as well as big bore kits and exhaust work. If you plan to add things like racks, skid plates, panniers and racks, you might check availability for each and include those costs in your decision.  Most of my bikes I have put as much into upgrades and making them fit me as I have in the bike itself. You indicated it may come down to money for you.  You might consider how either bike will hold its value if you get one and decide you want to sell it in a year.  It would be a shame to loose money on the bike and all your upgrades.  IMO, the DRZ is at the upper end of the pricing range.  It may be an extra nice bike, or just hard to come by in your area.  I bought my 2006 for 3k and it had a 435 big bore plus full FMF exhaust with 2500 miles on the clock. For sure let us all know which direction you go. Randy Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "jwflower53@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Date: 08/23/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-07:00) To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR DR350 v DRZ400?   Randy, you're making me think (that's a good thing).  No more than 50 miles from home, no more than 2 nights out (one up, camping), mostly temperate weather (far north Cali coast) but sometimes in the 90s when we go inland.  Ten to 30 miles on the slab to get to the vast skein of dirt roads that crisscross the county.  Within ten miles of me are a practice area of paths through the sand dunes, and a small public quasi-motocross track (haven't seen it yet, have this from a riding buddy).       Budget may control the decision in the end.  The local DRZ that's for sale is $3500 obo, the local DR350 is $2000 obo.  In our relatively isolated location, the pickings are slim unless one wants to travel 4+ hours.Thanks for making me think.-JW Posted by: robertwaters Reply via web post robertwaters@...?subject=Re%3A%20%5BDSN_KLR650%5D%20Re%3A%20NKLR%20DR350%20v%20DRZ400%3F DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5BDSN_KLR650%5D%20Re%3A%20NKLR%20DR350%20v%20DRZ400%3F

[jwflower53]

Randy, I bought the '99 DR350 today, $1800.  There's nothing major wrong with it, could have ridden it home, though there's some deferred maintenance.  It could be a perfectly useable machine for three hours' work and little to no money.  I do have longevity questions (this bike has almost 19k on it).  But this was by far the best bike out there for this little money, and just a 1/2 hour drive from my house.  It has a sturdy rack and aftermarket skid plate.  It's been lowered and unfortunately the seller didn't have the stock dogbones but I'm sure those are an easy get.  The rest looked stock, including that little bitty gas tank, 2 gal I think.  Suspension seems soft at both ends, and there's a good bit of dive on braking.  The forks seem to have more adjustment functions than on the KLR, no?  I'm thinking suspension's the place to put time and money, after I just spruce it up and ride it awhile to flush out any problems I didn't catch on the test ride.

       At this price point I'm not too concerned about resale value.  And it's impression that one doesn't usually get back the money spent on farkles anyway.

-JW

[Robert Waters]

JW,The soft suspension is one of the great features of the DR 350.  The dive you experience when you do a hard emergency break is not a big thing to me. It is still slowing down, which is the objective. You mess with the suspension and you miss with the ride. "Leave well enough alone" is a good practice.rw On Sunday, August 23, 2015 11:27 PM, "jwflower53@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   Randy, I bought the '99 DR350 today, $1800.  There's nothing major wrong with it, could have ridden it home, though there's some deferred maintenance.  It could be a perfectly useable machine for three hours' work and little to no money.  I do have longevity questions (this bike has almost 19k on it).  But this was by far the best bike out there for this little money, and just a 1/2 hour drive from my house.  It has a sturdy rack and aftermarket skid plate.  It's been lowered and unfortunately the seller didn't have the stock dogbones but I'm sure those are an easy get.  The rest looked stock, including that little bitty gas tank, 2 gal I think.  Suspension seems soft at both ends, and there's a good bit of dive on braking.  The forks seem to have more adjustment functions than on the KLR, no?  I'm thinking suspension's the place to put time and money, after I just spruce it up and ride it awhile to flush out any problems I didn't 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