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Post by Guest » Sun Feb 16, 2003 11:37 am

Well where is it dripping from ? Should still be under warrenty right ? Dooden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wendell L McCallie wrote:
> Hi all: > My 2002 KLR 650 with 1,600 miles has developed an oil leak. > Just about 3 or 4 drops after each ride. > Does anyone know where I should look first, or should I just accept
it
> as part of owning a KLR? > Thanks for any input. > Wendell in Tennessee.

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Post by Wendell L McCallie » Sun Feb 16, 2003 3:58 pm

Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:37:32 -0000 From: "dooden " Subject: Re: Oil leak Dooden sez: Well where is it dripping from ? Don't know where it's coming from, but it's coming down the front of the engine and ending up on the oil drain plug. Should still be under warrenty right ? About 3 more weeks I think. I thought I had seen where this was a known issue somewhere. I can't find it in the FAQ though. Don't want to take it to the dealer if it's not worth the trouble. I had a new 75 CB 750 Honda that dripped oil from day one and the Dealer never got it fixed for long. Wendell

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Post by rfcullison » Fri May 09, 2003 6:10 am

I have a very slow oil leak from the lower back of the crankcase, between the second and third crankcase bolts on the bottom. Just noticed it after comming back from the PA ride. There aren't any cracks that I can see, it just seems to be weeping at the joint. It's not leaking a lot, the oil level is not noticibly down over the last few days, just enough to spot the driveway and be annoying. On the other hand, it does make me a bit nostalgic for the several old British singles I owned back in the 70's. Question to the group. Is there any way to fix this without pulling the engine and splitting the cases? From the parts diagram there doesn't seem to be a gasket there, I assume some sort of liquid gasket material is used. I was thinking it might be possible to drain the oil, loosen up all the crankcase bolts I could find and possibly get enough of a gap to get some gasket compound up in the joint. I can live with this leak for a while, so don't want to cause more problems than I solve. Thanks Richard

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Post by James L. Miller Jr. » Fri May 09, 2003 10:36 am

If you crack the case, you're going to have to reseal the entire thing. the sealant that's there is the whole way around and a very thin layer of the stuff. Try just tightening them thar existing bolts, maybe you'll get lucky. Also, are you sure it isn't leaking from somewhere else? A light seep from the countershaft oil seal rolls down to there, as well as over-oiling the chain. Opinions only, you might have a cracked case and tightening won't matter. millerized --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rfcullison" wrote:
> I have a very slow oil leak from the lower back of the crankcase, > between the second and third crankcase bolts on the bottom. Just > noticed it after comming back from the PA ride. There aren't any > cracks that I can see, it just seems to be weeping at the joint. > It's not leaking a lot, the oil level is not noticibly down over
the
> last few days, just enough to spot the driveway and be annoying.
On
> the other hand, it does make me a bit nostalgic for the several
old
> British singles I owned back in the 70's. Question to the group.
Is
> there any way to fix this without pulling the engine and splitting > the cases? From the parts diagram there doesn't seem to be a
gasket
> there, I assume some sort of liquid gasket material is used. I
was
> thinking it might be possible to drain the oil, loosen up all the > crankcase bolts I could find and possibly get enough of a gap to
get
> some gasket compound up in the joint. I can live with this leak
for
> a while, so don't want to cause more problems than I solve. > > Thanks > > Richard

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Post by Devon Jarvis » Fri May 09, 2003 12:04 pm

"James L. Miller Jr." wrote:
> Also, are you sure it isn't leaking > from somewhere else? A light seep from the countershaft oil seal > rolls down to there, as well as over-oiling the chain. Opinions > only, you might have a cracked case and tightening won't matter. > millerized > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rfcullison" > wrote: > > I have a very slow oil leak from the lower back of the crankcase, > > between the second and third crankcase bolts on the bottom.
Richard, I have a hard time believing you would have cracked your crankcase with a metal bash plate. Zack is twice your size, and it took casing on a rock from 4 feet in the air. He's the only one I know so far to "achieve" that. I would check and see if the bolts are loose, but don't go nuts tightening them down. Once the bolt bottoms, maybe 1/16-1/8 turn is all it takes. I would also suspect the countershaft oil seal. This isn't that hard to change, nor very expensive. Does your bike steadily drip, or mostly when the motor runs? Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

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Post by rfcullison » Fri May 09, 2003 1:08 pm

It's pretty clearly comming from the seam between the case halves. I removed the bash plate and dried everything off under there. I can wipe it off and see the drop start to form in a short while without the engine running. I backed off all of the bolts I could get to and retightened them without any apparent change. The bash plate took a pretty good hit back in that area but there's no indiction that the case was damaged. The oil drain bolt looks like it got hit too and it,s possible the shock was enough to loosen things up and lose the sealant in that area.
> > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rfcullison" > > wrote: > > > I have a very slow oil leak from the lower back of the
crankcase,
> > > between the second and third crankcase bolts on the bottom. > > Richard, > > I have a hard time believing you would have cracked your > crankcase with a metal bash plate. Zack is twice your size, > and it took casing on a rock from 4 feet in the air. He's > the only one I know so far to "achieve" that. > > I would check and see if the bolts are loose, but don't go > nuts tightening them down. Once the bolt bottoms, maybe > 1/16-1/8 turn is all it takes. > > I would also suspect the countershaft oil seal. This isn't > that hard to change, nor very expensive. Does your bike > steadily drip, or mostly when the motor runs? > > Devon > > -- > "It's a troublesome world, > all the people who are in it, > are troubled with troubles > almost every minute" > > Dr. Seuss

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Post by zrod73026 » Fri May 09, 2003 9:24 pm

Clean it up and quit using that nasty chain spooge for a couple days and see where the leak is REALLY coming from! Zrod, Mr Leaky counter shaft sprocket fantasy man. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "rfcullison" wrote:
> I have a very slow oil leak from the lower back of the crankcase, > between the second and third crankcase bolts on the bottom. Just > noticed it after comming back from the PA ride. There aren't any > cracks that I can see, it just seems to be weeping at the joint. > It's not leaking a lot, the oil level is not noticibly down over
the
> last few days, just enough to spot the driveway and be annoying.
On
> the other hand, it does make me a bit nostalgic for the several old > British singles I owned back in the 70's. Question to the group.
Is
> there any way to fix this without pulling the engine and splitting > the cases? From the parts diagram there doesn't seem to be a
gasket
> there, I assume some sort of liquid gasket material is used. I was > thinking it might be possible to drain the oil, loosen up all the > crankcase bolts I could find and possibly get enough of a gap to
get
> some gasket compound up in the joint. I can live with this leak
for
> a while, so don't want to cause more problems than I solve. > > Thanks > > Richard

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Post by Zachariah Mully » Mon May 12, 2003 8:59 am

On Fri, 2003-05-09 at 14:08, rfcullison wrote:
> It's pretty clearly comming from the seam between the case halves. I > removed the bash plate and dried everything off under there. I can > wipe it off and see the drop start to form in a short while without > the engine running. I backed off all of the bolts I could get to and > retightened them without any apparent change. The bash plate took a > pretty good hit back in that area but there's no indiction that the > case was damaged. The oil drain bolt looks like it got hit too and > it,s possible the shock was enough to loosen things up and lose the > sealant in that area.
I would be *very* surprised if you actually cracked anything. As Devon pointed out, it took all 240lbs of me, 4ft of air and a pile of rocks to land on to punch through the bash plate and crack my cases. There are so many bolts holding the case halves together that I couldn't imagine the cases moving on each other either... I assume that you've been paranoid about checking for leaks elsewhere, for instance my shift lever shaft seal is leaking and due to the lean of the bike, the oil runs down the cases and leaks off the drain plug. The only other thing that I can think of is that you've got the standard "short" bash plate (whomever at Utah Sport Cycle decided this was a good idea should be punished accordingly) that's cut for a centerstand. This leaves the very last bolt on the case vulnerable to rocks... I can't remember which bolt you said was leaking, but I suppose with the crappy short plate, it *is* entirely possible that a rock got up in there. I'd be more than happy to help you out with it in any way I can... I have got mucho experience with cracked cases :) Z DC A5X A12X

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Post by Brian » Tue May 20, 2003 9:43 am

I just picked up a 1990 KLR and did an oil change (which it needed since the oil level glass was black). Since the transmission fills much smoother. Here is my question...I rode it this morning for the first time on the freeway. When I got to work I looked on the left side of the bike (transmission) and observed some oil leaking from around the gear shift area of the case. Does anybody have any idea where I should begin inspection???? Thanks. Brian 1990 KLr 650 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by James L. Miller Jr. » Tue May 20, 2003 9:57 am

Chain oiled recently? Countershaft seal (behind the sprocket, easy fix) oil breather on the back of the motor disconnected? 3 of many choices.... millerized
--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Brian wrote: > I just picked up a 1990 KLR and did an oil change (which it needed since the oil level glass was black). Since the transmission fills much smoother. Here is my question...I rode it this morning for the first time on the freeway. When I got to work I looked on the left side of the bike (transmission) and observed some oil leaking from around the gear shift area of the case. Does anybody have any idea where I should begin inspection???? Thanks. > > Brian > 1990 KLr 650

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