camping???? (nklr)

[Chris Krok]

> From: "nasgroup" > Subject: Sears Die-Hard battery > > Hello All, > > I need a new battery and was searching the archives for the sears > die-hard modfel number that is a direct replacement. Anyone know the > number?

Don't know it, but they'll be able to look it up there. I'll add battery numbers to the FAQ next time I get a chance. Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125

[Eddie]

When i brought my new 2003 klr650 home all i wanted to do was ride it and read these postings after about 3 or 4 short trips under 1200 miles total i left switch on upps so i pulled seat removed battery it was a stock jap battery but not even 1/2 full of acid i filed it up put it on 2 amp trickle from my boat charger and its been perfect ever since 3800 miles now i wonder how many new bikes are shipped out with 1/2 full batterys glad i left swich on now ><< might go for short ride today if weather gets above 45 its 33 out now eddie bham alabama

[Guy B. Young II - COG Tech. Ed.]

Eddie, Batteries are filled at the dealer, at least they used to be when I worked for one. Blame the dealer. Guy At 03:14 PM 1/11/04 -0000, eddie wrote:

>When i brought my new 2003 klr650 home all i wanted to do was ride >it and read these postings after about 3 or 4 short trips under >1200 miles total i left switch on upps so i pulled seat removed >battery it was a stock jap battery but not even 1/2 full of >acid i filed it up put it on 2 amp trickle from my boat >charger and its been perfect ever since 3800 miles now i >wonder how many new bikes are shipped out with 1/2 full >batterys glad i left swich on now >today if weather gets above 45 its 33 out now eddie bham >alabama

[Eddie]

I purchased bike in georgia couldnt find one in alabama our local dealer only got 2 in this yr he says they either cant keep them or they set all season im gonna hook up with some of the out of state rides to get more exp not many riding buddys in my area or i dont know how to look yet eddie

[thad_carey]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Guy B. Young II - COG Tech. Ed." wrote:

> Eddie, > > Batteries are filled at the dealer, at least they used to be when I

worked

> for one. Blame the dealer. > > Guy > > At 03:14 PM 1/11/04 -0000, eddie wrote: > > >When i brought my new 2003 klr650 home all i wanted to do was

ride

> >it and read these postings after about 3 or 4 short trips under > >1200 miles total i left switch on upps so i pulled seat

removed

> >battery it was a stock jap battery but not even 1/2 full

of

> >acid i filed it up put it on 2 amp trickle from my boat > >charger and its been perfect ever since 3800 miles now i > >wonder how many new bikes are shipped out with 1/2 full > >batterys glad i left swich on now > >today if weather gets above 45 its 33 out now eddie bham > >alabama

At our shop all the conventional acid batteries are filled at the shop from a boxed acid bladder purchased separately from another source. One would think that perhaps batteries are not shipped with acid in them for safety or regulatory issues, but this is not the case. Heck, that thick cardboard box wrapped around that 3 gallon plastic acid bladder is a lot easier to damage and leak acid than if it is sealed up in a battery. Then of course there is the issue of the gas to deal with while acid is actually in a battery, since there is a chemical reaction occurring. I've always wondered whether the large automotive chain stores like Auto-Zone or Pep Boys get their lead/acid batteries delivered already serviced or whether they're in back filling them up like we do at the shop. Of course all our sealed and gel batteries arrive serviced. I've been tempted to try one of the modern gel batteries, especially in my 4-wheel drive rig which has actually been used extensively in off road conditions--an old school full-size '89 GMC Jimmy with lots of mods. Thad Carey A15 (GI Joe no mo')

[Guy B. Young II]

Thad, When I bought a Yuasa YTX20L-BS sealed battery for my Connie several years from an on-line vendor, it came dry, but with a kinda neat separate acid container. It had 6 separate compartments with spigots that you had to align with the (then open) cell openings. Once aligned, you pushed down and that broke seals in the acid compartments which allowed the electrolyte to flow into the cells. Once the container was empty, you then placed a 'plug strip' over the cell openings and pressed it into place. Voila! One sealed battery. See: http://www.mindspring.com/~gbyoung2/misc/electrical/battery/YTX20L-BS.jpg Good question about the A'zone/Advance, etc., store batteries. Never thought to ask, but I will the next time I'm in one. I suspect, however, that they come dry. Was 18 this a.m., but still rode. I was outta beer! Guy At 04:12 PM 1/11/04 -0000, thad_carey wrote:

> > At our shop all the conventional acid batteries are filled at >the shop from a boxed acid bladder purchased separately from another >source. One would think that perhaps batteries are not shipped with >acid in them for safety or regulatory issues, but this is not the >case. Heck, that thick cardboard box wrapped around that 3 gallon >plastic acid bladder is a lot easier to damage and leak acid than if >it is sealed up in a battery. Then of course there is the issue of >the gas to deal with while acid is actually in a battery, since there >is a chemical reaction occurring. I've always wondered whether the >large automotive chain stores like Auto-Zone or Pep Boys get their >lead/acid batteries delivered already serviced or whether they're in >back filling them up like we do at the shop. Of course all our >sealed and gel batteries arrive serviced. I've been tempted to try >one of the modern gel batteries, especially in my 4-wheel drive rig >which has actually been used extensively in off road conditions--an >old school full-size '89 GMC Jimmy with lots of mods. >Thad Carey >A15 (GI Joe no mo')

[thad_carey]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Guy B. Young II" wrote:

> Thad, > > When I bought a Yuasa YTX20L-BS sealed battery for my Connie

several years

> from an on-line vendor, it came dry, but with a kinda neat separate

acid

> container. It had 6 separate compartments with spigots that you

had to

> align with the (then open) cell openings. Once aligned, you pushed

down

> and that broke seals in the acid compartments which allowed the

electrolyte

> to flow into the cells. Once the container was empty, you then

placed a

> 'plug strip' over the cell openings and pressed it into place.

Voila! One

> sealed battery. > > See: > > http://www.mindspring.com/~gbyoung2/misc/electrical/battery/YTX20L-

BS.jpg

> > Good question about the A'zone/Advance, etc., store batteries.

Never

> thought to ask, but I will the next time I'm in one. I suspect,

however,

> that they come dry. > > Was 18 this a.m., but still rode. I was outta beer! > > Guy > > > > > > At 04:12 PM 1/11/04 -0000, thad_carey wrote: > > > > > At our shop all the conventional acid batteries are filled at > >the shop from a boxed acid bladder purchased separately from

another

> >source. One would think that perhaps batteries are not shipped

with

> >acid in them for safety or regulatory issues, but this is not the > >case. Heck, that thick cardboard box wrapped around that 3 gallon > >plastic acid bladder is a lot easier to damage and leak acid than

if

> >it is sealed up in a battery. Then of course there is the issue

of

> >the gas to deal with while acid is actually in a battery, since

there

> >is a chemical reaction occurring. I've always wondered whether

the

> >large automotive chain stores like Auto-Zone or Pep Boys get their > >lead/acid batteries delivered already serviced or whether they're

in

> >back filling them up like we do at the shop. Of course all our > >sealed and gel batteries arrive serviced. I've been tempted to

try

> >one of the modern gel batteries, especially in my 4-wheel drive

rig

> >which has actually been used extensively in off road conditions--

an

> >old school full-size '89 GMC Jimmy with lots of mods. > >Thad Carey > >A15 (GI Joe no mo')

Whoa, Guy, 18 degrees? Now that's what I call "COLD BEER"! Thad Carey

[Stan]

It is a sad day, my fellow listers. The education cuts in Alamaba have claimed the life of... punctuation. RIP eddie wrote:

>I purchased bike in georgia couldnt find one in alabama our >local dealer only got 2 in this yr he says they either cant >keep them or they set all season im gonna hook up with some >of the out of state rides to get more exp not many riding >buddys in my area or i dont know how to look yet eddie > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > >To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_klr650/ > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

[Guy B. Young II]

Goes down r-e-a-l smooth!! ) At 06:22 PM 1/11/04 -0000, thad_carey wrote:

> Whoa, Guy, 18 degrees? Now that's what I call "COLD BEER"! >Thad Carey

[Jim]

Last month I bought a Yuasa sealed battery for my KLR and while the young shop guy was in the back adding the acid I was reading the instruction manual. It said that newly activated sealed batteries (all new batteries I believe) require an initial charge and that if the battery was to be charged immediately using a charger, the sealing strip should be placed loosely over the filling holes. After charging is complete the strip is to be seated and sealed. I pointed this out to the shop guy who complied with my request to not seat the strip but said he'd never heard that before :/ The new battery reads over 12.8V and sure does get the starter spinning. --Jim A-15

> When I bought a Yuasa YTX20L-BS sealed battery for my Connie several

years

> from an on-line vendor, it came dry, but with a kinda neat separate acid > container. It had 6 separate compartments with spigots that you had to > align with the (then open) cell openings. Once aligned, you pushed down > and that broke seals in the acid compartments which allowed the

electrolyte

> to flow into the cells. Once the container was empty, you then placed a > 'plug strip' over the cell openings and pressed it into place.

Voila! One

> sealed battery. > > See: > >

http://www.mindspring.com/~gbyoung2/misc/electrical/battery/YTX20L-BS.jpg

> > Good question about the A'zone/Advance, etc., store batteries. Never > thought to ask, but I will the next time I'm in one. I suspect,

however,

> that they come dry. > > Was 18 this a.m., but still rode. I was outta beer! > > Guy > > > > > > At 04:12 PM 1/11/04 -0000, thad_carey wrote: > > > > > At our shop all the conventional acid batteries are filled at > >the shop from a boxed acid bladder purchased separately from another > >source. One would think that perhaps batteries are not shipped with > >acid in them for safety or regulatory issues, but this is not the > >case. Heck, that thick cardboard box wrapped around that 3 gallon > >plastic acid bladder is a lot easier to damage and leak acid than if > >it is sealed up in a battery. Then of course there is the issue of > >the gas to deal with while acid is actually in a battery, since there > >is a chemical reaction occurring. I've always wondered whether the > >large automotive chain stores like Auto-Zone or Pep Boys get their > >lead/acid batteries delivered already serviced or whether they're in > >back filling them up like we do at the shop. Of course all our > >sealed and gel batteries arrive serviced. I've been tempted to try > >one of the modern gel batteries, especially in my 4-wheel drive rig > >which has actually been used extensively in off road conditions--an > >old school full-size '89 GMC Jimmy with lots of mods. > >Thad Carey > >A15 (GI Joe no mo')